Wigfrid Rework

[Simpifig]

So what does everyone think of the Wigfrid rework? I know it just came out today but as a Wigfrid main who isn't gonna get on dst right now I need to hear how she feels from other people. Do the songs feel balanced or are they a bit OP? Are some of the songs worth crafting even since they have high costs?

[Airvanz]

its only give little benefit to Wigfrid itself, But Pretty good Party Buff

[N.I.T]

the songs are designed to be used in battle against bad big boys (they help alot) and has no practical use in normal hound waves

[Airvanz]

Originally posted by CL4P-TP:

the songs are designed to be used in battle against bad big boys (they help alot) and has no practical use in normal hound waves

the 2 instant Song Work great for hounds Spider, its kinda tricky to use it

Fight a hound,Spider,frog and Tall bird to fill StagePerformance to level one and use the
Startling Soliloquiy if you overwhelmed of enemy Number to Distract it for a while and The Rude interlude to help Ally if they are Overwhelemed with Small but Many enemy

Farg and Spider Queen its one that good with 2 instant Song for Gain or Lose agroo, or you fight giant and there is Hound attack or Frog Rain you can deagro it and keep hitting the giant

[N.I.T]

Originally posted by Airvanz:

Originally posted by CL4P-TP:

the songs are designed to be used in battle against bad big boys (they help alot) and has no practical use in normal hound waves

the 2 instant Song Work great for hounds Spider, its kinda tricky to use it

Fight a hound,Spider,frog and Tall bird to fill StagePerformance to level one and use the
Startling Soliloquiy if you overwhelmed of enemy Number to Distract it for a while and The Rude interlude to help Ally if they are Overwhelemed with Small but Many enemy

Farg and Spider Queen its one that good with 2 instant Song for Gain or Lose agroo, or you fight giant and there is Hound attack or Frog Rain you can deagro it and keep hitting the giant

in theory it can work but in reality it does not

[Airvanz]

like i said its Work but its Situational or niche, you can try that at hound mound for example use the deagro Song if you getting overwhelmed with the hound and try kill it 1 by 1

[Hex: Event is Misery]

Songs don't change enough about Wigfrid to make her worth bringing over Wolfgang.
They're way too expensive is the first problem, making them mid-to-late game crafts with the exception of the taunt song (farming for a Toma Root is annoying but it's worth it if you have squishy allies like Wendy, Maxwel, or Walter.)
A lot of them also aren't good. The sanity ones are pretty much only good against Fuelweaver, Fire Resistance one is completely useless. HP regen one is pretty much the only good one.

Ultimately Wigfrid rework doesn't fix the core problems people had with Wigfrid
• Wolfgang is "better"
  
• Her exclusive crafts aren't that good (Battle Spear is poop, Helmet quickly loses value once you can make a Pigskin farm for Football Helmets)
  
• Tanking in DST is dumb (just kite)
  
• Only being able to eat meat is seriously annoying
  
• Sanity gain on kill is more of a negative than a positive

Perhaps the only positive to new Wigfrid is that she's going to be insanely good in PvP but like... who tf plays DST PvP lol? With this game's awful lag and generally underwhelming combat? But outside of PvP you don't need songs for any of the boss fights if you know how to play, and Wigfrid still doesn't provide enough other than that. Better to just have a Warly on your team if you need buffs: all you need to get Chili Flakes or Garlic Powder is to do some farming (and support a Warly's diet, which isn't that hard to do.)

[Airvanz]

Originally posted by TigerKirby215:

Songs don't change enough about Wigfrid to make her worth bringing over Wolfgang.
They're way too expensive is the first problem, making them mid-to-late game crafts with the exception of the taunt song (farming for a Toma Root is annoying but it's worth it if you have squishy allies like Wendy, Maxwel, or Walter.)
A lot of them also aren't good. The sanity ones are pretty much only good against Fuelweaver, Fire Resistance one is completely useless. HP regen one is pretty much the only good one.
Ultimately Wigfrid rework doesn't fix the core problems people had with Wigfrid

This Rework Pretty much Diffrentate Between Wolgang and Wigfrid, Wolrgang its Giant Slaughter if you invest time and Resource to him and Wigfrid its a Fighting Support Character that best to play with other player that can Cut cost of Preparing to fight Giant and make more Room for mistake when Fighting Giant or Raid boss

Wolfgang is "better"

it is Good and Powerfull, but in Team Play Wolfgang can Screw up team if you miss management Especially at Food Supply or at Fighting boss and raid boss Bad Wolfgang Player will Screw up Entire team Cause he is Should be at Frontline Fighting, and other Side Wigfrid she make all people Viable to fight with her New Buff and like i said its add Room for Mistake

Her exclusive crafts aren't that good (Battle Spear is poop, Helmet quickly loses value once you can make a Pigskin farm for Football Helmets)

its ONLY ONCE you Establihed Pig Farm and Spider Farm you can Easly produce Foootbal helm for Everyone at good amount, at Early game Wigfrid can Easly Provide Everyone Helm and Spear for Fight and with Better Durrability than footbal helm

Tanking in DST is dumb (just kite)

Tell that To Raid boss, i want to see you kill all boss Kite only

Only being able to eat meat is seriously annoying

With this Update i see some people said Wigfrid its Over Powered and Need more Downside while her new item its not cheap either

Sanity gain on kill is more of a negative than a positive

Its Pretty good as Wigfrid because how its stacked with her basic Ability and good For ally tnat have Problem with sanity Example Wortox and Woodie, Waremoose

Perhaps the only positive to new Wigfrid is that she's going to be insanely good in PvP but like... who tf plays DST PvP lol? With this game's awful lag and generally underwhelming combat? But outside of PvP you don't need songs for any of the boss fights if you know how to play, and Wigfrid still doesn't provide enough other than that. Better to just have a Warly on your team if you need buffs: all you need to get Chili Flakes or Garlic Powder is to do some farming (and support a Warly's diet, which isn't that hard to do.)

Even without her new buff Wigfrid always Best pick for PVP server because you can Spawn Camping Portal and kill Everybody easly because she start with Spear and Helm and Everybody arent,Expect Wortox and Warly buff need Extensive Grinding to get the Benefit for Everyone and For Wigfrid you just need to craft it ONCE

[N.I.T]

Originally posted by TigerKirby215:

Songs don't change enough about Wigfrid to make her worth bringing over Wolfgang.
They're way too expensive is the first problem, making them mid-to-late game crafts with the exception of the taunt song (farming for a Toma Root is annoying but it's worth it if you have squishy allies like Wendy, Maxwel, or Walter.)
A lot of them also aren't good. The sanity ones are pretty much only good against Fuelweaver, Fire Resistance one is completely useless. HP regen one is pretty much the only good one.

Ultimately Wigfrid rework doesn't fix the core problems people had with Wigfrid
• Wolfgang is "better"
  
• Her exclusive crafts aren't that good (Battle Spear is poop, Helmet quickly loses value once you can make a Pigskin farm for Football Helmets)
  
• Tanking in DST is dumb (just kite)
  
• Only being able to eat meat is seriously annoying
  
• Sanity gain on kill is more of a negative than a positive

Perhaps the only positive to new Wigfrid is that she's going to be insanely good in PvP but like... who tf plays DST PvP lol? With this game's awful lag and generally underwhelming combat? But outside of PvP you don't need songs for any of the boss fights if you know how to play, and Wigfrid still doesn't provide enough other than that. Better to just have a Warly on your team if you need buffs: all you need to get Chili Flakes or Garlic Powder is to do some farming (and support a Warly's diet, which isn't that hard to do.)

ah yes a EDGY RICK fan boy i asume you think stay insane is a good idea too ?

[Hex: Event is Misery]

Originally posted by CL4P-TP:

Originally posted by TigerKirby215:

Songs don't change enough about Wigfrid to make her worth bringing over Wolfgang.
They're way too expensive is the first problem, making them mid-to-late game crafts with the exception of the taunt song (farming for a Toma Root is annoying but it's worth it if you have squishy allies like Wendy, Maxwel, or Walter.)
A lot of them also aren't good. The sanity ones are pretty much only good against Fuelweaver, Fire Resistance one is completely useless. HP regen one is pretty much the only good one.

Ultimately Wigfrid rework doesn't fix the core problems people had with Wigfrid
• Wolfgang is "better"
  
• Her exclusive crafts aren't that good (Battle Spear is poop, Helmet quickly loses value once you can make a Pigskin farm for Football Helmets)
  
• Tanking in DST is dumb (just kite)
  
• Only being able to eat meat is seriously annoying
  
• Sanity gain on kill is more of a negative than a positive

Perhaps the only positive to new Wigfrid is that she's going to be insanely good in PvP but like... who tf plays DST PvP lol? With this game's awful lag and generally underwhelming combat? But outside of PvP you don't need songs for any of the boss fights if you know how to play, and Wigfrid still doesn't provide enough other than that. Better to just have a Warly on your team if you need buffs: all you need to get Chili Flakes or Garlic Powder is to do some farming (and support a Warly's diet, which isn't that hard to do.)

ah yes a EDGY RICK fan boy i asume you think stay insane is a good idea too ?

Ah yes a Maxwell main who has never been insane in their life and doesn't know how to fight shadow monsters. I suggest you learn what jerky is before you flame people for saying insanity isn't an issue.

[N.I.T]

kid with 40 hours wanna try to teach 1000 hours how to play ......

[Blue is Mood]

Originally posted by CL4P-TP:

kid with 40 hours wanna try to teach 1000 hours how to play ......

You may want to make your game playtime visible to add credibility to this argument, that’s all I’m gonna say.

As far as commenting on this rework... I’m very indifferent, it honestly felt like nothing changed. Wigfrid was a supportive-combat style character and well, she still is. Her songs are... mediocre at best and to me thats only due to the limitation of using them, the cost it takes to make them (even if they are infinite use after making) and the effects they have. The life steal one and less weapon durability consumed during battle are both nice, not necessary, but not unwelcome either.

My hopes were for her to really take a stand to be MUCH different from Wolfgang since the constant, annoying argument of which is “better” never ends. They have their different roles and while one does immediately better in combat, the other is much less self centered and is more situationally useful in a group as a support fighter. I personally don’t think there necessarily is a “better” due to both being different, but that being said Wolf is a tad overrated in my opinion. He does still overshadow her however and even though I’m not big on the combat aspect of this game, I do wish there had been a little more of a shake up in the “meta” vs what we actually got. Oh well.

[Mr C.Folt Scruff]

Wigfrid become more resource saver now saving expensive weapon for more use and we dont need to chuck so much sanity food when fighting fuelwaver for example
Still her last two song kinda useless especially when playing solo

[Traveler]

She seems great in full groups.

But since I play solo I'm only collecting those songs, most of the time I even forget to use them so it's only taking a slot.

[Punyrock]

Originally posted by TigerKirby215:

Originally posted by CL4P-TP:

ah yes a EDGY RICK fan boy i asume you think stay insane is a good idea too ?

Ah yes a Maxwell main who has never been insane in their life and doesn't know how to fight shadow monsters. I suggest you learn what jerky is before you flame people for saying insanity isn't an issue.

Ok, you are both being jerks. Ya'll want me to cry? Because I seriously will.

[Hex: Event is Misery]

Originally posted by Mr Scruff:

Wigfrid become more resource saver now saving expensive weapon for more use and we dont need to chuck so much sanity food when fighting fuelwaver for example
Still her last two song kinda useless especially when playing solo

Honestly I kinda undervalued her weapon durability song. I just still think that it's not that great. The Dark Sword and Glass Cutter both have tons of durability, and there are very few early game weapons you're going to want to keep durability on. It's perhaps useful for low durability weapons like the Bat Bat but I'd still rather have a Warly to kill faster (and spend less charges that way.)
There's also still the problem of the crafting recipes requiring really expensive stuff. It's only fair that the best ones are so hard to make but the sanity gain one and the fire resistance once require you to spend a lot of time at sea for not a lot of benefit.

Wigfrid feels like the character you swap to with Celestial Portal after crafting Warly spices to fight Fuel Weaver. She's good super early for helmets, super late for Fuel Weaver fight, and pretty mediocre otherwise.
At least she doesn't have negatives like Warly or Wolfgang needing extra food but there are better characters who lack downsides.