What's the purpose of Webber, Wendy and Willow?

[DeyánStoi]

Webber only uses darts and has three spiders, Wendy just has a worst version of Abigail.
The fire staff is made for willow, but Wickerbottom and Maxwell deal more damage with it than her. Her Tedddy bear is not bad but not too good either. Are there hidden stats I'm not seeing?

[hairy peak]

Webber is a good DPS option, and Willow is a nice alternative to mages Wicker / Maxwell. You can also argue the utility of some other characters comparing them to others. The Forge is just a seasonal mini-game tho, not like a complete super perfectly coop RPG or anything xD

[DeyánStoi]

Originally posted by mochilo:

Webber is a good DPS option, and I Willow is a nice alternative to mages Wicker / Maxwell. You can also argue the utility of some other characters comparing them to others. The Forge is just a seasonal mini-game tho, not like a complete super perfectly coop RPG or anything xD

Well, that's true xD

[Ad Massive]

Willow's great if she keeps her bear alive when possible as steady dps with molten darts and backup mage. Wendy... is a similar sort of thing but im not sure if it's just unlucky or abigail tends to aggro sleeping enemies, if it's just coincidence then she's just a different willow with slightly less reliable dps. As for webber he's pretty great especially if you end up in a group with lots of starting dart users as he can switch for the actives while his spiders add dps.

They get outshone by wicker and max late game but early game maxwell is pure awful so you're reliant on your team anyway. The main point is they're certainly viable but perhaps not optimal.

[Drinkcup]

playable characters

[Jynn]

webber, if played correctly, can be the highest DPS on a team, outdoing even a Maxwell or Wicker with a infernal staff since he can gain DPS in beginning game too.

Willow is your basic dart user, but with bonus damage to molten darts (if there is a willow or maxwell, she should'nt be using hte staff, they should, IMO)

WEndy...i dunno. I feel like wendy's perk isn't as good as everyone else' and so she often is outdone by everyone that can perform the same role

[chaos_guy]

webber-the ranged dps version of wigfrid but he is ranged so...
willow-her teddy bear is quite good and the bonus for the fire make it so she should use fire staff when wicker/maxwell use books/heal
wendy-not so good,maybe it is for peple that are afk of noobs or with lags
maxwell-what is so good with him?
75 hp is awful,the shadow duelists are dealing good damage but they appear when he deal damage,when he deal damage he makes aggro and when he's on aggro he die

[Orderan]

Willow is a less risky to play version of Maxwell : More hit points, a bear that can help you tank, and possibility to deal actual damages early game.

Webber is more-or-less the same : His spiders are efficient even early games (while shadow duelists likely won't proc more than twice until you get Infernal staff)

Wendy is, unfortunately, the weak link of the group. Abigail is more reliable to agro ennemies than Bernie, but will consequently die much faster, and need time before coming back. And I'm not sure her damages will help bring Wendy to the level of any other damage dealer.

[DeyánStoi]

Originally posted by Jynn:

bonus damage to molten darts (if there is a willow or maxwell, she should'nt be using hte staff, they should, IMO)

Bonus damage to Molten darts? But that's not fire damage right?

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by JustDin:

Originally posted by Jynn:

bonus damage to molten darts (if there is a willow or maxwell, she should'nt be using hte staff, they should, IMO)

Bonus damage to Molten darts? But that's not fire damage right?

Pretty sure it does, or you wouldn't call it "Molten darts" and be able to shoot fireballs with it.

[Jynn]

Originally posted by JustDin:

Originally posted by Jynn:

bonus damage to molten darts (if there is a willow or maxwell, she should'nt be using hte staff, they should, IMO)

Bonus damage to Molten darts? But that's not fire damage right?

molten darts do fire damage, so Willow gets the bonus on them

[chaos_guy]

willow should be with the fire staff ,maxwell shouldn't be in the team and wickerbottom should heal and switch to other books

[Jynn]

Originally posted by flower_guy:

willow should be with the fire staff ,maxwell shouldn't be in the team and wickerbottom should heal and switch to other books

maxwell's duelists do far more damage with the fire staff than willow does with her fire damage buff, from my experience. He is weak health-wise, but a Maxwell player that knows what they're doing isn't going to get hit anyways and knows how to avoid attacks.

[chaos_guy]

Originally posted by Jynn:

Originally posted by flower_guy:

willow should be with the fire staff ,maxwell shouldn't be in the team and wickerbottom should heal and switch to other books

maxwell's duelists do far more damage with the fire staff than willow does with her fire damage buff, from my experience. He is weak health-wise, but a Maxwell player that knows what they're doing isn't going to get hit anyways and knows how to avoid attacks.

ok so he won't die too often,but willow will not die at all

[The Very Hungry Caterpillar]

With good tanks and runners Maxwell shouldn't die.

Another thing to note is Maxwell's shadow duelists stunlock enemies reducing incoming damage to tanks. Its most noticeable on Borrior and Borilla's. Additionally Maxwell's earth books prevent enemies from moving which further reduces incoming damage. If you have a Wicker in the group as well it is quite strong.

If you have a good, skilled team I feel Maxwell is a better choice. (especially with Wicker healer.) In Quickmatch I would rather play Willow as most players steal the fire staff robbing him of his potential. (His strength is not tanking with a 15 damage book and he can heal but has low hp and no direct bonuses to healing.)

[Jynn]

Originally posted by flower_guy:

Originally posted by Jynn:

maxwell's duelists do far more damage with the fire staff than willow does with her fire damage buff, from my experience. He is weak health-wise, but a Maxwell player that knows what they're doing isn't going to get hit anyways and knows how to avoid attacks.

ok so he won't die too often,but willow will not die at all

but he can do things Willow cannot. If it's a skilled team, Maxwell is the superior choice from a pure DPS and strategy point of view. If it's a unskilled team, it doesn't really matter who you play at all

- Duelists stunlock enemies, as stated by the poster above me

- Duelists add up to more damage than Willow would get via her fire buff, so more DPS over all

- Maxwell can alternate staff and petrify book for superior crowd control, while Willow just does damage and nothing else. Bernie the bear is mediocre at best, since he pulls mobs away from crowd control attempts