Simultaneous turns?

[Vincent Mercier]

Does anyone know whether this iteration will have simultaneous turns in multiplayer? I really hope so because the lack of simultaneous turns in VI was a real turn off for me and made the multiplayer tedious.

VI had simultaneous turns at the beginning for clearing out early mobs, but simultaneous turns ended once you met other players on the map. If the same approach is being taken for VII then I won't be buying the game.

Did this really annoy anyone else?

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

There are sim turns, but they dont work atm. You finish your turn and the AI still takes like 10 minutes to make its.

[Star Paladin]

Withiout Simo turns, you are frozen out when all other AI/Humans go in VI. I quite literally brought a book, and read it when it was not my turn. Having to read a book when playing a computer game with friends is a very bad sign. . .

[Elura]

Originally posted by Kasseopea:

There are sim turns, but they dont work atm. You finish your turn and the AI still takes like 10 minutes to make its.

Simultaneous turns in these types of games usually doesn't apply to A.I players. Even in a match that contains 2 human players and 2 A.I players, normally the 2 Humans take their turn simultaneously while the A.I then act in regular turn order after all humans have finished. This is just based on my experience with other similar games like Civilization 5 and Endless Legend that utilize simultaneous turns, I assume Heroes 7 would aim to do the same.

The feature is meant for multiplayer to significantly reduce downtime, especially when playing with large numbers of human players. Turn based multiplayer is more fair and strategical overall. But simultaneous turns can save so much downtime that the sacrifice is often worth it for a lot of people.

If the A.I turns are slow that's a whole other issue that should be tackled separately from simultaneous turns.



That aside has anybody tried Simultaneous Turns in multiplayer yet? It's a very important feature to me and will greatly impact my decision to purchase this game. If the simultaneous turns work like they do in Civ5 and Endless Legend then I'm sold, but if it's lackluster like in HoMM5 then I won't be so happy.

[Star Paladin]

We play Simu turns in Age of Wonders 3; with other humans; AI; and both. They got it working fine. There is only one problems (as in ALL simu turn games), on occation, it can be a race to see who gets to a specific location first when a new turn starts.

But that is small potatoes compaired to waiting 5-15 minutes for your turn to come back up in you-go-I-go games.

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

Originally posted by Woofles:

Originally posted by Kasseopea:

There are sim turns, but they dont work atm. You finish your turn and the AI still takes like 10 minutes to make its.

Simultaneous turns in these types of games usually doesn't apply to A.I players. Even in a match that contains 2 human players and 2 A.I players, normally the 2 Humans take their turn simultaneously while the A.I then act in regular turn order after all humans have finished. This is just based on my experience with other similar games like Civilization 5 and Endless Legend that utilize simultaneous turns, I assume Heroes 7 would aim to do the same.

Yeah, ive read the bug-notes and apparently they cant even program the menu properly. The sim turns option is supposed to be for multiplayer only.

Seriously though, i gave up on testing it, because it takes up to 10 mins for a turn to end. And im on a i7 3,40GHz rig with 16GB.
Alright, thats maybe not high end, but it manages Witcher 3 on almost max.

This game consists out of miniature models with like 100 polygons and sprites for half the objects, and still manages to chug resources down like an irishman wiskey.

[Yerude]

Homm 7 is out now. Does it have sim turns or not?
I wont buy it if not. Love civ in multiplayer, and wanted to play a homm with my friends on a little lan party for ages now.
My friends and i play turn based games for years and it is a little bit disappointing, only so few turn based games have working multiplayer implementations. Even with sim turns you often have to wait. Playing windowed mode is also a MUST WORK/HAVE for us. (For example if 1 or 2 players need a longer time for their turns, we sometimes played another game like terraria in background)

[Star Paladin]

MP online does not seem to work at all. I've not heard from one person, or seen one video where anyone as of yet has gotten it to work.

Also, from what little I've read, even if you get Simu MP game to work a bit, when any other player gets into a battle, a graphic picture fills the screen of all other players, and they can do nothing until the battle is over.

[farbror_olle]

Originally posted by Star Paladin:

MP online does not seem to work at all. I've not heard from one person, or seen one video where anyone as of yet has gotten it to work.

Also, from what little I've read, even if you get Simu MP game to work a bit, when any other player gets into a battle, a graphic picture fills the screen of all other players, and they can do nothing until the battle is over.

+1
The multiplayer is ♥♥♥♥ now, even without the desyncs. I love the simturn feature too, but its kinda broken since you have to wait whenever any other playergo into battle. Just before the loadingscreen pops up you can actually get a sneak peak on your enemys army.
Hoping for a patch to fix this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

[Earthplayer]

So does this have sim turns for the whole game as an option now or not? Cause I still play HoMM V with all expansions with endless sim turns (there is an unlocker for it which makes it possible to use them for the whole game instead of until you find an enemy) Without sim turns (and sim turns until the end of the game) I won't buy this game.

If sim turns for the whole game are an option in this game I will definitly buy it.

[DoX]

Sim turns ends when u face or come close to another human player i think