Has anybody finished Sylvan mission 2?

[archeg]

On 3rd week enemy hero comes to my only town with a crazy-big full army and powerful spells, can't beat him. And that's on easy. I am not a hardcore heroes player, I like slow and explorational gameplay, but I've always beat previous heroes with no problems on normal. So I wonder is this a balance bug and I should just try another campaign (or wait for balance fix) or I should abandon the campaign as something not designed for such a noob player like me?

[shoki]

I finished it, can't remember anything special there.

[orcchife]

well you start near an outpost (enemys never attacked me there) so give all units to one hero leave the other at outpost to build up. then take one of the elven towns, if ya can take the orc town on the bottom of the map it helped me out alot to have army of centuars, and i all so had 2 shadow dragons to take that orc base so that helped. if you can kill off about 2 hard armys and build up useing the bases(with full walls and towers) you should be able to finsh the map from there and kill any enemy heroes from then on.

[OndGud]

I believe the ai heroes(a couple of them at least) start with some fancy items. Once you defeat that initial hero(it's prolly the stormcaller and it has a +8 magic staff) things should start normalizing.

I used the druid in the deciding battle around the same time you describe. Earth spells won it, I just had to have enough bodies to survive the air spells.

I guess thinking back it should be possible to rush their heroes while their stacks are small to try snipe those items.

Basically, you just need to defeat 1 or 2 of them then their advantage becomes yours. Heavy losses don't matter, just get those items.

I know this doesn't really help all that much but it is possible. Of course, if your druid has totally different skills then the way I beat it won't work for you. I had the buffs for earth spells so things like entangle/poison spray/earthquake secured the win. Earthquake alone is pretty awesome if you field enough fliers.

[judge1326]

I have lost this 13 times i have tried every thing i read here and still can not win! my champ is one is might and one is mystic what is there skill tree from 1st map? is there a walk through for this map ?

[vort3x]

try just letting the AI take your town if you can't win then take it back once he leaves. I don't remember having any issues on this map. if you let the game auto-save after each turn just go back a few turns and see if you can do something differently. You'll eventually figure it out.

[judge1326]

thank you i have now lost 43 time very frustrating. in 10 days and i dont have an army big enough to survive . and i try to evade them but thet always find me

[sethmage]

Some tips how to beat this mission. There are probably more options but I did it this way and it worked.

1. Make sure that when you finish the 1st mission you are level capped, especially the chick, and get all the stats bonuses from the island before killing the ogres. Also max the magic guild for the little spells you get, they will carry forward.

2. On the opening island spend only 1 week max, try to win all the fights without any casualties and use mostly the chick again, reason for it she is mage and has better chances to win incoming battle, by now you should be hopefuly level 12, I beat him with level 11. Do not claim the fort at this time but obviously get the 1000 gold mine (I will post later what spell to specialize if you interested , but I would need to restart campaign to refresh my memory and if nobody cares then why bother, right?)

3. Let dude collect resources for your city building and with the girl “clean” the island with the city (north of starting point) which you should take asap and start building your army and walls.

4. Approximately after 3 weeks the efing orc comes with his efing army. I know, he casts chain lighting every f**ing round, your mission is to have enough troops to survive his attacks and pellet him with yours spells. Hopefully you get some army left and he drops a lot of artifacts, among others one +8 to magic. Main idea is to fight him in your city so his melee can't get to your troops, fighting him in the open I honestly don't know if the battle is winnable.

5. After the battle your dude should take the second elvish town (to the east(ish) island of your first town). And with the chick use whirlpool and get the orc town (you might use one more pool) which is somewhere in right down corner of the map and take it. It goes without saying that you should build town portal, because you will be still harassed, but never with such big army as before and for some reason they will also stop using this stack killer spells. There is a dragon dwelling south when you exit the whirlpool, if you manage to take it, the battles get a little easier

6. You will also need to hire later on some heroes, because there are multiple whirlpools the orcs will try and retake their cities, so you need to be proactive and harass them.

[judge1326]

WOW Thank you I will go try that again thank you. I will let you know who i do .

[judge1326]

Hi, well I did better but still lost. At level 8 my mystic's tree is Nature Revenge is NOVICE, Earth Magic NOVICE reduce mana EXPERT, Paragon NOVICE +2 Magic&Spirit EXPERT +5Arcane. My dude is might level 8 Nature Revenge NOVICE, Offense NOVICE 1 base damage range EXPERT, Defence NOVICE +3health for friendly EXPERT does not spend movment for pick up. After the firts big fight that my mystic wins where does the dude get his army to take the second city? that was part of my prob he keeps getting killed.

[judge1326]

OH i picked water for the magic in the first city

[Antalyan]

Alternatively, you can learn your hero logistics and always be faster than enemy heroes, just play cat and mouse with AI. Then it's good to have one hero skilled in economy to provide you free gold so you can always conquer enemy town, hire all creatures and escape again when your enemy comes. The other hero will have all the good battle skills and all troops.

[sethmage]

I looked up my stats for opening the second island and see what else is there to give you. Again this is strategy game so multiple solutions are possible and feel free to experiment with other options.
My stats for Danan:
Nature's Revenge – Novice
Prime Magic – Novice, 1. Renewal
Paragon – Novice, 1.Dragon Blood
Earth Magic – Novice, 1.Earth Scholar. Expert,
Level 9 getting: Earth Magic Expert Earth Knowledge II
Level 10 Earth Master

Also I got the Emerald Leaf Artifact (+12 to earth magic) from previous map

Carry forward spells from the previous map worth mentioning:
Regeneration – (helps winning the first battles sans casualties)
Entangle
Poison Spray
Blizzard

Troops deployment:
Danan:
5 Druids
25 Hunters
and getting all from the dwellings and city

Wysloth
8 Elf Sea Pirates
10 Hunters
He can get another 2 stacks of Pirates (one by the island with dragon dwelling and 2nd close to the island with the second sylvan city, also he buys panthers from the tent on the tiny island (a little east of starting location).

Make every step count, if you have to backtrack it's probably better to load the save game. You might get lucky with neutrals wanting to join your cause for some gold, take them (if you can afford, kill if not)

[vort3x]

This video is a full play through of this map if it helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O_mcBX8UEA&

[judge1326]

Thank you guys I will try this information I am getting closer but not there yet . wish i had more movement to get away they always seam to have more movement than me

[Antalyan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von judge1326:

Thank you guys I will try this information I am getting closer but not there yet . wish i had more movement to get away they always seam to have more movement than me

That is possible. Sylvan town has a special building which reduces enemy's movement.

Exploration skill can be quite helpful in this but you can also destroy enemy town buildings to slow them down.