Necromancer campaign mission 4. What am I supposed to do?

[Veliponteva]

As the tittle says, what am I supposed to be doing in this map.

I have skipped 5 weeks at this point in order to get the few units that I can recruit so I might have a chance to leave my island to face the enemy.

But the propblems arise as soon as I walk over the fallen rock. I end my turn on the other island and bam! 6 enemy heroes ride from the shadows each showing them selves as deadly to me.

I tried to run down to the green and lush area but the enemies will just catch up to me and I have to TP back home to safety.

I have no idea what to do.
The AI's have scooped up all the reousrces from the ground so I can't even build anything and what little gold I can get (2k/turn) does not buy me the resources to upgrade anything in any meaingfull time frame.


How am I supposed to get trough the horde of enemy heroes and forces?

[SteemProfile]

Well i finished that pre-patch and malik was powerful enough as a fire necromancer without almsot any army. Try to avoid them and build the town portal early for a quick getaway. Try to capture the haven castle for money and if possible build a decent army. Johari is pretty annoying with the GM air but is beatable if you build an army and never allow your units to go side by side in battle(GM air magic). As soon as you defeat johari then it s a smooth ride.

[Veliponteva]

So in other words. Start the whole campaign over because I did not level up all the heroes?

A few more weeks in to the game now and I have seen 11 enemy heroes now.
As soon as I step in to the next isle they will all start running straight for me.

I can give it a few days and the walk deeper inland so it will give me a few more turns to explore.

I found a fort at the green are and tried to make a stand there as I rebuild it.

Nope.

[Veliponteva]

Just skipped a turn.

There are 16 heroes waiting for me to step out of the island.

And they are recruiting units much faster then I can.

[SteemProfile]

Wait a minute ddin't you level up malik on the necro map 2? He is a campaifn hero and he is bound to show up again!!/why did u let him weak?:p in the second map i grinded and leveled up all three campaigns heroes just in case:p
By necro map 4 malik could obliterate with a fireball only.

[Veliponteva]

chris__d1 původně napsal:

Wait a minute ddin't you level up malik on the necro map 2? He is a campaifn hero and he is bound to show up again!!/why did u let him weak?:p in the second map i grinded and leveled up all three campaigns heroes just in case:p
By necro map 4 malik could obliterate with a fireball only.

No I did not train the hero.

I prefer to play with one hero.

[SteemProfile]

I understand,i get bored with multiple heroes but you had to level him up as campaign hero:/ even with adar malik at level 25 i had a hard time with johari.
But a friend of mine did start this map from the start and with a little luck you will level up fast enough with the right skill choices

[Antalyan]

That's actually one of many things I like on H7: sometimes it makes me play different.

I prefer to have one strong hero too but I started to play more heroes in H7 as there are more main ones (something like that would not be possible for example in H5). Of course, also the fact leveling is so xxx fast that especially in the first and second missions, you can have 3 heroes on max. Something like that should not be possible.

Back to that scenario and your problem: If this problem is still in the game, most of the heroes will move to the oasis on the south so they won't make you troubles. Just skill Adar Malik in Fire magic.

[Epic Joe Smash]

I know this is an old post... but...
They give you 2 heroes that will carry over for a reason.. sometimes you use both.. soemtimes it rotates.
You need them all as strong as you can as early as you can. This will help in all the later maps.
Also, make sure you scoop up the AI as soon as you can... it gets stronger each week.

[Raeken Zayt]

So I am in a similar boat, but I did actually max him out in Mission 2. My problem is I was starting to make headway, but one of the heroes just casts armageddon each round and destroys my army in no time.

Kinda crazy

[bloodraven43]

too be able to win, you have to level up all the heroes on each mission. never just skip a turn, always do something....but maybe because of the crying fools out there, these devs made the game so hard nobody can enjoy it...idk, havent played it for a while. beat the base game a while back...i hope its not tweaked out so hard that a casual player cant enjoy it...that was my worry a while back.

[Heart]

The balance of campaign has not been touched at all, and wont be. AI Improvement plus certain balance changes will make the game over all 'harder' I suppose.
When we tweak Unit values and spells this happens for ONLY skirmish maps. We have however tweaked Necro's abilitiy and reduced the amount of units you receive every combat, I can't imagine that makes the map THAT much harder though.

[bloodraven43]

Heart původně napsal:

The balance of campaign has not been touched at all, and wont be. AI Improvement plus certain balance changes will make the game over all 'harder' I suppose.
When we tweak Unit values and spells this happens for ONLY skirmish maps. We have however tweaked Necro's abilitiy and reduced the amount of units you receive every combat, I can't imagine that makes the map THAT much harder though.

nice to hear...ill have to re-play it and see how different it is now....the person could be not upgrading correctly and using each turn incorrectly...that will kill you quick....civ 5 you can skip alot of turns, this game[all of the heroes games] you have to use every turn like its your last turn...lol

edit...so old saves from 1.7 will not work with 1.8 huh??? wow, crash city, reinstalling everytime its patched and restarting from the beginning sort of sucks...lol...is this the last patch for heroes 7 or are more incoming...i pretty much dont want to waste my time reinstalling this game every 3 months and starting from scratch...kind of gets old...lol

wish i could have just rebeat mission 3 and onto mission 4 but its a no go....have to restart mission...lol

[Antalyan]

Heart původně napsal:

The balance of campaign has not been touched at all, and wont be. AI Improvement plus certain balance changes will make the game over all 'harder' I suppose.
When we tweak Unit values and spells this happens for ONLY skirmish maps. We have however tweaked Necro's abilitiy and reduced the amount of units you receive every combat, I can't imagine that makes the map THAT much harder though.

Sorry but it does not make me any sense. Does it mean units will have different stats in skirmish and different in campaigns? That would be actually the worst possible way which I have never seen in any previous game.
Campaigns are too easy and unbalanced now so there is no "balance" to break. Additionally, heroes level up almost immediately.

[Antalyan]

I did not believe it is even possible to change stats of units only for certain maps as it would break whole game mechanics.

[bloodraven43]

not really...one is scripted sort of, the other isnt.