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evilwill12 Nov 16, 2019 @ 3:22am
CMANO future updates?
Will the database still be updated for CMANO into the future?
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Dimitris  [developer] Nov 16, 2019 @ 8:13am 
No, sorry. CMANO will only be receiving engine fixes from now on.
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remb79 Nov 16, 2019 @ 1:27pm 
Well, from my pov it's not fair for the old cmano fans and players. Of course that new game, CMO, it s interesting and attractive, but maybe some will want to buy it only after a while, with all the problems solved.Sorry to hear that the database of CMANO was abandoned. Not fair.Just my oppinion.
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evilwill12 Nov 16, 2019 @ 1:38pm 
Ok, i will be purchasing CMO in a few weeks, but i really need a new PC to play it.. So was hoping CMANO database would be kept updated for another year or so
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remb79 Nov 18, 2019 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by evilwill12:
Ok, i will be purchasing CMO in a few weeks, but i really need a new PC to play it.. So was hoping CMANO database would be kept updated for another year or so
same situation here
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Tellashim[GIF] Nov 29, 2019 @ 4:49pm 
I can understand wanting to move onto a new game, but making it that you HAVE to move onto the new game, without the old, is predatory in the least.
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Dimitris  [developer] Nov 30, 2019 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by Zefream Chochrane:
I can understand wanting to move onto a new game, but making it that you HAVE to move onto the new game, without the old, is predatory in the least.

How so? Existing CMANO customers can still download it from Steam. It is simply not being made available for new purchase.

Does Microsoft (not re-sellers) sell Windows 7 right now? Are new features being added to it, other than security patches? (And the latter will end soon too).
Last edited by Dimitris; Dec 2, 2019 @ 1:24am
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Slitherine_Iain  [developer] Dec 2, 2019 @ 1:49am 
In all software development there comes a time when you have to stop releasing free content for a game. If you can find another game that has done as much for free post release support I'll be impressed. To support a product with free content you need a team and you have to pay that team. The only way to sustain that development team is to have a some kind of subscription charge but we know this is the kind of thing players hate so we didn't even consider it.

There is no requirement to upgrade to CMO and you can continue to play Command for ever. Any suggestion to the contrary is a misunderstanding. However you obviously wont get all the new content that is created for CMO. It is probably clear why it would be impossible for anyone to just keep a game update for free and get nothing out of it, if they want to feed the kids!
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Tim Dec 2, 2019 @ 11:41am 
Here's a question: Will future community scenario packs be backward compatible with CMANO? Or will we have to buy CMO to play newer scenarios? Just asking as the current scenario is compatible with both games. It would be a shame if future packs weren't the same way.
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remb79 Dec 2, 2019 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Slitherine_Iain:
In all software development there comes a time when you have to stop releasing free content for a game. If you can find another game that has done as much for free post release support I'll be impressed. To support a product with free content you need a team and you have to pay that team. The only way to sustain that development team is to have a some kind of subscription charge but we know this is the kind of thing players hate so we didn't even consider it.

There is no requirement to upgrade to CMO and you can continue to play Command for ever. Any suggestion to the contrary is a misunderstanding. However you obviously wont get all the new content that is created for CMO. It is probably clear why it would be impossible for anyone to just keep a game update for free and get nothing out of it, if they want to feed the kids!


True indeed, but what about some update packs for CMANO, not for free ?(not technical issues but DB update).Think about that.
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Dimitris  [developer] Dec 3, 2019 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by Etack:
Here's a question: Will future community scenario packs be backward compatible with CMANO? Or will we have to buy CMO to play newer scenarios? Just asking as the current scenario is compatible with both games. It would be a shame if future packs weren't the same way.

If a scenario in the future is made with CMO, it will be playable only in CMO.

If the scenario has been originally made in CMANO, but then edited in CMO to enhance it with the new features and then saved, it will again be playable only in CMO.

Only scenarios originally created in CMANO and never "touched by" CMO will remain playable in CMANO.
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evilwill12 Dec 4, 2019 @ 2:25am 
I went ahead and bought too take advantage of the discount.. Im so glad I did, looks and feels a different experience to CMANO.. The maps are awesome, i love the street maps for placing ground units.. Game feels so much more immersive and is very smooth..
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Cabal Jan 5, 2020 @ 2:00pm 
I did the same even with the TacView Advanced Bundle (but mainly for DCS, Falcon BMS). We had titles like Harpoon for too long till CMANO finally came... or Falcon 4.0 which is being kept alive with Mods even today while DCS is growing but still has no Dynamic Campaign like Falcon 4.0 from 1998 (till now) had/has. After all these years, it's time for something new to keep it alive.
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Dutycalls Jan 6, 2020 @ 10:33am 
Hi,
In my opinion, to keep CMANO alive, you should at least just continue updating the database of CMANO.
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remb79 Jan 6, 2020 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Dutycalls:
Hi,
In my opinion, to keep CMANO alive, you should at least just continue updating the database of CMANO.
Agree
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desrtfox071 Jan 17, 2020 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Dutycalls:
Hi,
In my opinion, to keep CMANO alive, you should at least just continue updating the database of CMANO.


Originally posted by remb79:
Originally posted by Dutycalls:
Hi,
In my opinion, to keep CMANO alive, you should at least just continue updating the database of CMANO.
Agree

Do you guys both also still use Windows 7? have you posted your opinion to Microsoft on how to keep Win7 alive, and that it's not fair for the company to stop support eventually?

C:MANO is at it's end of life. That's pretty normal for games and software in general. The devs have no obligation to continue to support a game into perpetuity just because you feel slighted that they aren't. The devs are being kind, in my opinion, to keep updating the base game with engine updates. Crying about no new database updates is just ridiculous gamer entitlement.

I would suggest, that if you want to keep using C:MANO that you send the devs some money to continue support. Dev hours aren't free you know.
Last edited by desrtfox071; Jan 17, 2020 @ 8:11am
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