Question on the AIM-9C

[SkySG1]

I'm running the Yankee Team 1966 scenario and went to arm my F-8 Crusaders with the radar-guided AIM-9C instead of the IR-guided AIM-9B which is IMO far worse because of the 5000 ft minimum engagement ceiling. The -C is also all-aspect and the F-8s need that.
The problem is that the -C missiles cannot fire and give me the "weapon must find/lock target first" reply. My Crusaders have their radars on but I don't think that matters at all.
Does anyone have any solution?

[spike2071]

I'm not familiar with the scenario off the top of my head, but I can say that having the radars on is necessary. If I recall, the AIM-9C is a semi-active radar missile, which requires the plane to lock up the target with the radar and maintain that lock until missile impact. Your plane's radar is what's guiding the missile to its target.

Just to ask the obvious question, are the crusaders within range to lock up the targets?

[SkySG1]

Yes, they are way in range, dogfight range even.. Their radar's range is much longer then the AIM-9C flight range.
The missile just doesn't work at all, it seems.
Is there any manual on this missile to make it work step by step somehow?

[Dimitris]

Hi, can you please post a save file for investigation? Thanks.

[SkySG1]

Yes, when I figure out how.

[SkySG1]

The AIM-9C's SARH sensor head has a range of 80nm - waaaaay above it's flight range.
It should be able to detect and lock a MiG-21 coming in, front aspect, on the same altitude, yet it does nothing. Nothing at all.
How do I post a save file here?

[Dimitris]

Hi,

Can you upload the file to any public file host (or your GDrive, if you have a Google account) and provide the link here?

[SkySG1]

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JnSkkpSqI6mK_VOdVc2zGq-FxlJWSigq

Flight Hammer42 is the one in question coming down on four unidentified bogeys (migs) trying to protect the SH-2.

[Dimitris]

Thanks! We'll investigate once we're able to catch our breath.

[SkySG1]

Is there anything you managed to figure out of this?
I'd really like to continue that awesome scenario with working missiles :(
Besides, as far as I'm seeing this - StoicFrog Gaming has had the same problem in his videos two years ago:
https://youtu.be/BEdOmCZ27hM?t=1197

[Dimitris]

Hi,

We probably won't be able to investigate this for a while yet, as we are literally in the middle of releasing CMO. Once the dust settles, we'll be able to dig into this properly.

Thanks for your patience!

[SkySG1]

Thank you.

[SkySG1]

Bump! ;-)

[spike2071]

I (finally) went through the mission and had the same thing happen. They shot down a couple with their guns, but never fired a missile with the same "error" message that you posted above.

[SkySG1]

The Message only changes when the F-8 is in the target's rear sphere. It still doesn't fire.
The AIM-9C should be all-aspect but there's something very wrong in it's programming.

You can say I'm playing Yankee Team on HARDCORE because of the sole ability to score gun kills. :-P
C'mon! I still have seven hours to go from the last save game and some effective missiles would be gold right now.

This is actually a 3-year old bug. It's been reported in Matrix forums in 2016.

[Dimitris]

Originally posted by SkySG1:

This is actually a 3-year old bug. It's been reported in Matrix forums in 2016.

Microsoft guys are still finding and fixing Win95-era bugs in Windows 10.

Software development can be like that :)