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DarkFalz Dec 29, 2019 @ 12:20am
Demon Chest spawn chances
So with Demon Chests now able to spawn now able to spawn on Time To Die difficulty, I'm wondering what the chances are and how this has affected the spawn chances for the higher difficulties. Anyone have some data on this so we can make sure the tables on the wiki are correct?
Originally posted by Blue:
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style
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Astraea Kisaragi Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:03am 
I'm curious about this as well. I played 2 of those with 2 demon chests, but other day 6 without any.
potterman28wxcv Dec 29, 2019 @ 1:33am 
Could be that it's like beast mode but with halved probability
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Blue  [developer] Dec 29, 2019 @ 3:56am 
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style
Last edited by Blue; Dec 29, 2019 @ 3:56am
Bongwater Pizza Dec 29, 2019 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by Blue:
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style
Wut.

Spawn chance has always been effected by difficulty...

At least the effective spawn rate is. I presume you mean each demon chest rolls the dice to see if it appears with the same chances regardless of difficulty.

But with higher difficulties offering more chests, the effective spawn rate is dependant on the difficulty.


So does this mean:
- Demon Chests now spawn at Time To Die difficulty, on Beast Mode, one additional Demon Chest spawns

Means there is now the exact same chance for two demon chests to spawn on both beast mode and unearthly?

What's the point of unearthly now then? Does beast mode have the exact same chance for the same amount of demon chests as unearthly? If so, then there is no reason for new players to move up to unearthly, other than karma. They can just farm beast mode and then jump straight to abyss.
Sir Edward Dec 29, 2019 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Blue:
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style

Would be nice if we could get some data on the new changes. If you see the WIKI the chances are clearly known as difficulty dependent.
Last edited by Sir Edward; Dec 29, 2019 @ 10:01am
Originally posted by Bongwater Pizza:
Originally posted by Blue:
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style
Wut.

Spawn chance has always been effected by difficulty...

At least the effective spawn rate is. I presume you mean each demon chest rolls the dice to see if it appears with the same chances regardless of difficulty.

But with higher difficulties offering more chests, the effective spawn rate is dependant on the difficulty.


So does this mean:
- Demon Chests now spawn at Time To Die difficulty, on Beast Mode, one additional Demon Chest spawns

Means there is now the exact same chance for two demon chests to spawn on both beast mode and unearthly?

What's the point of unearthly now then? Does beast mode have the exact same chance for the same amount of demon chests as unearthly? If so, then there is no reason for new players to move up to unearthly, other than karma. They can just farm beast mode and then jump straight to abyss.

when developers says something id belive him

ferom what i played wiki seams wrong on a lot % data

especialy wiki claims you can only get at most 2 chests on beast mode(1 card 1 as chest) and 2+ is only possible on higher dificulties

i obtained 3 in beast mode the other day , not to say when i played beast mode i was getting quite a lot of them (mostly becouse i play normal/big map if i can)

lots players seam to rise dificulty and play smaller map thinking it rises chances but from 10 games i played yestorday that also seams wrong and covers with what developer said



Originally posted by Sir Edward:
Originally posted by Blue:
It's actually the same. The difficulty never affected spawn chances, only room amount (area size) and if you play Arcade Style

Would be nice if we could get some data on the new changes. If you see the WIKI the chances are clearly known as difficulty dependent.

wikies in games are often based on very limited data and are very wrong most of the time unless game is popular and "good data is avalible) or developers themself published it somewhere or it was data mined

potterman28wxcv Dec 29, 2019 @ 11:02am 
Well of course you managed to obtain 3 DCs in beast mode since blue updated Beast to give up to 2 DCs just like unearthly. The probabilities on the wiki are not wrong, they are just outdated. Which is understandable, the patch has been out for only a few days

The probabilities on DC haven't been datamined. They have been filled thanks to the individual spawn chance of 1 DC (that was given directly by Blue) - and then using simple probability theory since each DC spawn is independent
Last edited by potterman28wxcv; Dec 29, 2019 @ 11:03am
DarkFalz Dec 29, 2019 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Varenvel The Festive Girl:
Originally posted by Bongwater Pizza:
Wut.

Spawn chance has always been effected by difficulty...

At least the effective spawn rate is. I presume you mean each demon chest rolls the dice to see if it appears with the same chances regardless of difficulty.

But with higher difficulties offering more chests, the effective spawn rate is dependant on the difficulty.


So does this mean:
- Demon Chests now spawn at Time To Die difficulty, on Beast Mode, one additional Demon Chest spawns

Means there is now the exact same chance for two demon chests to spawn on both beast mode and unearthly?

What's the point of unearthly now then? Does beast mode have the exact same chance for the same amount of demon chests as unearthly? If so, then there is no reason for new players to move up to unearthly, other than karma. They can just farm beast mode and then jump straight to abyss.

when developers says something id belive him

ferom what i played wiki seams wrong on a lot % data

especialy wiki claims you can only get at most 2 chests on beast mode(1 card 1 as chest) and 2+ is only possible on higher dificulties

i obtained 3 in beast mode the other day , not to say when i played beast mode i was getting quite a lot of them (mostly becouse i play normal/big map if i can)

lots players seam to rise dificulty and play smaller map thinking it rises chances but from 10 games i played yestorday that also seams wrong and covers with what developer said

That's because the percentages that are currently on the wiki are out of date after the latest update.

Anyway, thanks for the answer Blue. I'll look at getting the info on the wiki updated soon.
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