Removed from Steam store

[camXmile]

[radium]

Originally posted by camXmile:

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pointless

[ColorsTR]

But Why ?

[wholemealhepple]

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[camXmile]

Originally posted by ColorsTR:

But Why ?

Codemasters want people to buy only 2 current DiRT games: arcady 4 and "realistic" Rally partly to avoid confusion, to increase the playerbase of D4 and to make more money (since D4 is much more expensive). It's a pity 'cause I was about to post a very positive DiRT 3 review despite how sick I am of gymkana.

[chasing for hugs]

Thank you Codemasters! Now I will not use my money for another Dirt game.

[radium]

Originally posted by unknown:

Thank you Codemasters! Now I will not use my money for another Dirt game.

yeah, dirt games eat booty

[camXmile]

Originally posted by Space_Owl™:

Originally posted by camXmile:

Codemasters want people to buy only 2 current DiRT games: arcady 4 and "realistic" Rally partly to avoid confusion, to increase the playerbase of D4 and to make more money (since D4 is much more expensive). It's a pity 'cause I was about to post a very positive DiRT 3 review despite how sick I am of gymkana.

This is probably the dumbest comment I've read on steam forums, trust me. This game, like previous Dirt games, was removed because of expiring licensing agreements.

Unlike other types of games, racing games (Also happens to licensed sports games such as NBA or games with licensed music) have an expiration date thanks to licensing agreements (You can't just put a BMW in a game without an agreement with BMW for example).

And because the game is sold digitally, that means CM still making profits, but they can only do so for certain ammount of time before having to renew them (Also depends of the type of agreement both parties reached). In other words, some companies decide to renew them, others don't, so isn't just Codemasters.

So why waste money in licensing renewals for a small profit? Exactly. And they even gave the game for free before that happened.

You removed the line about old racing games
Here's one. No license expiration problems.
26.09.2005 GT Legends
http://store.steampowered.com/app/44690/

Racing games are software same as other games and same copyright laws apply to them. However the licensing itself may differ. It may expire after 5, 10 years or there may be no time limit - it depends on how the 2 companies signed the agreement.
You said it yourself:

Originally posted by Space_Owl™:

depends of the type of agreement both parties reached

Games that were removed due to license expiration: Mafia 1 and GRID 1. Those were removed all of a sudden, nobody expected that. Also Mafia 2 and GTA: Vice City were removed 'cause license of a few music tracks expired but returned to the store after those tracks were removed.

DiRT 3 on the other hand was removed exactly the same moment DiRT 4 released which is no coincidence.

There might be a license expiration coming in case with DiRT 3 but that's so secondary and unimportant that I thought it's not even worth mentioning. I told the real reasons why the game was removed: CM just doesn't want its 2 products to compete with each other especially since the initial reviews are not favorable to the new game.
Also, the whole F1 series is still available, proving my point.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/44310/

[🪐Space_Owl🦉™]

Originally posted by camXmile:

Originally posted by ColorsTR:

But Why ?

Codemasters want people to buy only 2 current DiRT games: arcady 4 and "realistic" Rally partly to avoid confusion, to increase the playerbase of D4 and to make more money (since D4 is much more expensive). It's a pity 'cause I was about to post a very positive DiRT 3 review despite how sick I am of gymkana.

This is probably the dumbest comment I've read on steam forums, trust me. This game, like previous Dirt games, was removed because of expiring licensing agreements.

Unlike other types of games, racing games (Also happens to licensed sports games such as NBA or games with licensed music) have an expiration date thanks to licensing agreements (You can't just put a BMW in a game without an agreement with BMW for example).

And because the game is sold digitally, that means CM still making profits, but they can only do so for certain ammount of time before having to renew them (Also depends of the type of agreement both parties reached). In other words, some companies decide to renew them, others don't, so isn't just Codemasters.

So why waste money in licensing renewals for a small profit? Exactly. And they even gave the game for free before that happened.

D3 playerbase was dead. And they would have still made profits from D3 by doing nothing if it wasn't for the agreements. That said, developers and publishers aren't your friends, they are here to make money just like any of you would in their shoes. So grown up in that regard.

Also, inform yourselves before posting whatever comes into your minds first.

[🪐Space_Owl🦉™]

Originally posted by camXmile:

Originally posted by Space_Owl™:

This is probably the dumbest comment I've read on steam forums, trust me. This game, like previous Dirt games, was removed because of expiring licensing agreements.

Unlike other types of games, racing games (Also happens to licensed sports games such as NBA or games with licensed music) have an expiration date thanks to licensing agreements (You can't just put a BMW in a game without an agreement with BMW for example).

And because the game is sold digitally, that means CM still making profits, but they can only do so for certain ammount of time before having to renew them (Also depends of the type of agreement both parties reached). In other words, some companies decide to renew them, others don't, so isn't just Codemasters.

So why waste money in licensing renewals for a small profit? Exactly. And they even gave the game for free before that happened.

You removed the line about old racing games
Here's one. No license expiration problems.
26.09.2005 GT Legends
http://store.steampowered.com/app/44690/

Racing games are software same as other games and same copyright laws apply to them. However the licencing itself may differ. It may expire after 5, 10 years or there may be no time limit - it depends how the 2 companies signed the agreement.
You said it yourself:


Games that were removed due to licence expiration: Mafia 1 and GRID 1. Those were removed all of a sudden, nobody expected that. Also Mafia 2 and GTA: Vice City were removed 'cause license to a few mucis tracks expired but returned to the store after those tracks were removed.

DiRT 3 on the other hand was removed exactly the same moment DiRT 4 released which is no coinsedence.

There might be a license expiration involved with DiRT 3 but that's so secondary and unimportant that I thought it's not even worth mentioning. I told the real reasons why the game was removed: CM just doesn't want its 2 products to compete with each other especially since the initial reviews are not favorable to the new game.
Also, the whole F1 series is still available, proving my point.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/44310/

Again kid, depends of the agreement and the companies. Some do, others don't. Believe whatever you want to believe, but isn't something new in the industry. I could also prove my point with countless racing games such as Forza or Gran Turismo.

Edit: Also you forgot games like Alan Wake or for a time, San Andreas and Vice City. As I said, it happens to games with licensed content. Some companies decide to renew the agreements, like T2, others don't like in the case of AW.