Part Not Found?

[Mavzor]

Images say it all, looks more like a 'bug'
http://imgur.com/uDNRyoL,AcZQMcB

If this is the start of 'diagnosis' then "part not found" reads more like a game error, and is when I exited the grind of the game.

I think you guys have made a wonderful game, but focus on engaging and educating the player.
Right now you've made "Mechanic Employee Simulator 2015"
A little freedom, 1. not follow this list, 2. but <creepy eyes> we won't tell you what it is muhahaha.

Simple system to think about in-game:
Your business role is to balance repair costs with customer quality satisfaction!

That's what I expected, and didn't get.

Nice artwork though

[Boots In Puss]

The only part i ever had issues finding was an "engine" part and was labeled as "not found", even after i took all the engine apart and put it back together...
it ended up being the fuel pump, which is at the back of the car above the fuel tank, and it was considered an engine part... so yeah, looking at the engine area was not the way to find it :)

[SerCotton]

i think it adds a little challenge to the game once you get used to it. all that the "part not found" means is that you don't know what parts are below ..% so take it out on the test track or just look for parts that are rusted.

[CowboyDuke]

When you get a "Part Not Found" it's basically the equivolent of a guy coming to your shop and saying "I don't know what's wrong, could you please find out and fix it?" while dropping off a suitcase full of money.

When the job does not say "List provided" that means you're going to have to do a little detective work, and figure out what's wrong. It's more satisfying to figure it out and solve it than to be held by the hand like a baby, in my opinion.

[Philonious Rex]

I feel like they did it this way to quantify what you have left, If they didn't say anything the game would be a lot harder and I think a lot more people would get stuck. You'd have like one bushing that was broken somewhere and have no idea what to look for. Instead you see part not found so you do something like a test drive and then it says Bushing (x) and then you repair it and it changes the (x) to a check.

However I do agree that it would be nice if customers had some feedback etc. The metric would need to be something like Achieve 90% brake performance, rather than repair this list of parts. Then it wouldn't care what parts you changed or what % they were at only that you achieved at least 90%, Then if you went over that amount the customer could react in some positive way.

[Dachshund]

Maverick as Cowboy said, it's representing that the customer, or you the mechanic might not know what a problem is right off the bat. It's part of the game scaling in difficulty after you've done a bunch of repairs. A quick way to start getting around that is using the diagnostic tools such as the path test, test drive, also use the Scanner, preassure gauge and eletric meter, those reveal a lot about part condition, as you go along you'll start to learn what parts are associated with what problems, but using those tests can help. Especially with things like bushings, which aren't easy to see if they are rusted or not.

[Mavzor]

"When you get a "Part Not Found" it's basically the equivolent of a guy coming to your shop and saying "I don't know what's wrong, could you please find out and fix it?" while dropping off a suitcase full of money."

That's fine.
The problem is the communication to the player
'part not found' looks like an error
'part unknown' would communicate that it is not FOUND as opposed to an error


Beyond this I think a far more engaging game model, maybe for 2016 would be as in my first post.

"Your business role is to balance repair costs with customer quality satisfaction!"

Right now when it comes in with an exact list, you're 'Mechanic Employee Simulator 2015'
You're told exactly what to do, and how to do it.
And even if you're not told exactly what to do, that outcome is the same.

Imagine on job finalization you had a customer satisfaction score based on your replacement part quality, and number of parts found? :)

[SomeBloke]

Or possibly 'Part Not Found Yet'.

I have noticed a few of translation problems, just keep pointing them out I suppose.

[Red Dot Games]

OK so we can change it :)
I like "part unknown" but it also sounds like error. Also like "yet" in the end.

Maybe its because of text color? Maybe we should use some grey one?

[SomeBloke]

How about 'Part Not Discovered'

[Red Dot Games]

@somebloke Sounds good - everyone agree?

[JonnyE80 - Allkeyshop]

Originally posted by Red Dot Games:

@somebloke Sounds good - everyone agree?

Yeah that sounds better. :)

[Red Dot Games]

ok changed - only in english for now
will be pushed with new update

[zeusent]

Originally posted by Boots In Puss:

The only part i ever had issues finding was an "engine" part and was labeled as "not found", even after i took all the engine apart and put it back together...
it ended up being the fuel pump, which is at the back of the car above the fuel tank, and it was considered an engine part... so yeah, looking at the engine area was not the way to find it :)

Damn! Took me AGES to find that one :) Thanks for your help :D

[xtracuddly]

Originally posted by Boots In Puss:

The only part i ever had issues finding was an "engine" part and was labeled as "not found", even after i took all the engine apart and put it back together...
it ended up being the fuel pump, which is at the back of the car above the fuel tank, and it was considered an engine part... so yeah, looking at the engine area was not the way to find it :)

you legend! solved all my problems lol

[Viss Valdyr]

and always check the battery... always check the battery.