Engine Swap Prices

[Uncle Sheo[Gurren]]

I'm trying to swap out the engine in my new Hellcat. Apparently I can't afford it... With 27 grand in my bank account.... Exactly how much do I have to shell out for this?

[DrkFire666]

Engine swap price depends on the condition of the original engine. Repair the old engine before doing the swap. Even the added cost of parts will save more in the long run.

[Malidictus]

As of right now, Engine Swaps are pretty badly implemented. Basically, the game will auto-sell all the old parts and auto-buy all the new parts for you. If the old engine is in bad shape, you'll end up losing a lot of money. My suggestion is to disassemble the old engine yourself, fix as many parts as you can and then sell them. The new engine will be even more expensive, but you'll make back a lot of the cost from selling the old items, which the game will have done for you anyway.

Note that I don't know what sell-back value the game uses and if it differs between selling the parts manually or selling them through an engine swap. The math involved in that one is too cumbersome to try and disentangle it.

[Obiwan]

my only beef is that I have to do this then take the new engine apart to fit the performance parts >< ... it is slightly counter intuitive.

[Malidictus]

Originally posted by Obiwan:

my only beef is that I have to do this then take the new engine apart to fit the performance parts >< ... it is slightly counter intuitive.

It's actually VERY counter-intuitive, and Red Dot seem to agree. They seem to have agreed on a compromise of letting you swap to an "empty" engine (i.e. swap the blueprints but not auto-mount any parts) and even planned it for an upcoming patch. I look forward to it.

[hawley.kevin]

the devs got this all wrong lol xD. u take a engine that doesnt have any power 4 crap and make it faster by bolting turbo supercharger nos forged piston big cams etc etc etc..... it would be nice to take a stock motor on this game and make it have more horsepower then it came with stock then make a multiplayer drag racing would be awesome....

[Obiwan]

Originally posted by Malidictus:

Originally posted by Obiwan:

my only beef is that I have to do this then take the new engine apart to fit the performance parts >< ... it is slightly counter intuitive.

It's actually VERY counter-intuitive, and Red Dot seem to agree. They seem to have agreed on a compromise of letting you swap to an "empty" engine (i.e. swap the blueprints but not auto-mount any parts) and even planned it for an upcoming patch. I look forward to it.

LMAO i just made a post requesting exactly that ... shoulda checked my old post. DOH!

[ImALittleTeaPot]

Thank you all for the information. I was so confused, and a little disappointed. The price on a Delray Custom engine swap, that I had just torn down (can't remember if I had repaired yet), was 42k. I assumed the swapped engine would have performance parts for that price. That was not the case, of course. I restored an old backup and I think I'll just park the Delray in the garage until patch 1.0.4.4.

[DrkFire666]

Originally posted by ImALittleTeaPot:

Thank you all for the information. I was so confused, and a little disappointed. The price on a Delray Custom engine swap, that I had just torn down (can't remember if I had repaired yet), was 42k. I assumed the swapped engine would have performance parts for that price. That was not the case, of course. I restored an old backup and I think I'll just park the Delray in the garage until patch 1.0.4.4.

I did some figures of my own. I was restoring a V8 OHV (I don't recall which).
An engine swap to a dual carb was $22,709 and $32,774 for a supercharged.
Using a semi-cheat (quit without save everytime a part repair failed) I repaired the engine without replacing any parts ($0 in parts). The savings were huge, down to $8,838 for dual, and $18,923 for a super.

After restoring the engine to %100, it was down to $2,945 for dual, and $13,010 for super. The difference in savings turned out to be the same for both dual carb and supercharged versions.
The cost in parts (for dual carb) was $2,778 and I got $597 back from selling the old parts, making a total cost of parts of $2,181.

Since the difference in savings between semi-repaired and %100 repaired is $5,913 and the cost of parts was $2,181. The total savings is $3,732.
So it makes more sense to repair the engine to %100 prior to engine change. It takes time, but also yields a lot of EXP.

This will all be moot once the new update is pushed out.

[ImALittleTeaPot]

Originally posted by DrkFire666:

Since the difference in savings between semi-repaired and %100 repaired is $5,913 and the cost of parts was $2,181. The total savings is $3,732.
So it makes more sense to repair the engine to %100 prior to engine change. It takes time, but also yields a lot of EXP.

This will all be moot once the new update is pushed out.

Thank you for working through this. I was thinking of giving it a try today, since I was pretty certain I hadn't repaired anything yet when I got the 42k price, and wondered how much of a difference it was. Your info is good news! I will definitely work through it this morning and see.

EDIT: That brought the price down nearly 30k, from $42,026 to $12,320 (actually, just a little more than that - I just realize it sold my performance Front Exhaust Pipes...doh!). I didn't track addititional non-repairable engine/gearbox parts, but I believe they were just under 4k. Time to tear the engine back apart and perf it up.

[vick1000]

Also, remeber when you swap engines, you get all new gearbox and down pipes, at least on the V8s I have been building.