[SPOILERS?] - Nathan's cut dialog and possible gift.

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Hello, everyone. I'm sure many of you remember Episode 4's trailer, in which Nathan said, "The Storm is coming!" and that the dialog was cut. Many people thought that was a trailer stunt. But here is the truth!

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This file has lines that were supposed to belong to the scene where you beat Nathan. You can hear "The storm is coming!" with many other lines, and if the plot was not altered, they reveal bit more about Nathan.

1. Gift: In the audio file, Nathan says "The Storm is coming! I saw it coming! I see all of you, and you're all gonna die!"

All right, what's so special about this file?

First of all, Nathan saw the storm coming. This means that Max can change the past, and Nathan can predict the future, but his psychiatrist doesn't believe him (which is why he's on meds). He also foresaw everyone dying from the storm.

It seems this file has several outtakes of the same dialog, and in one of them, he says "No, Big Daddy, I won't take your pills".

In the last outtake, he also makes it clear: "I didn't hurt Kate". If it's still true he didn't hurt Kate, then the question still stands: what happened to Kate (and possibly Chloe and Rachel)? Who is this "Big Daddy" Nathan speaks of?

Well, it could be that the plot was changed so that these lines don't represent it anymore, which is why I put a question mark near "Spoilers". But we never know, right?

[Sten]

In that trailer there is a glimpse of a redish room or something. what was that about?

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Publicado originalmente por ICO_hr:

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Yes, it does. They might have recorded the dialog and realized it wouldn't fit anywhere in the final game, and we have evidence of that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McAP7nUTlnc

This is a leaked beta of Episode 2. It has unused dialog that doesn't quite fit, such as Frank referencing somebody, Chloe getting confused and asking "Who?" In the beta, the reaction is a bit out of place, so in the final, it was changed to her being tense.

They just changed the reference in the scene with Frank. ''Storm is coming'' is only in the trailer, and we all find out how misleading the trailer was.

Granted there's a lot of marketing in the trailer, but there was dialog that was going to be used in-game. In fact, there is a deleted scene with Daniel that you can see here (Episode 2 beta):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM

[Dank Souls]

Publicado originalmente por Megabyte:

Granted there's a lot of marketing in the trailer, but there was dialog that was going to be used in-game. In fact, there is a deleted scene with Daniel that you can see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM

Devs cut things constantly for whatever reason in many games. Sometimes less is more. :)

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Publicado originalmente por ICO_hr:

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Granted there's a lot of marketing in the trailer, but there was dialog that was going to be used in-game. In fact, there is a deleted scene with Daniel that you can see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM

Devs cut things constantly for whatever reason in many games. Sometimes less is more. :)

But not in this case. I'd love if the choices we made would actually have bigger consequences after every episode.

[Anacosta]

Publicado originalmente por ICO_hr:

I still think the lines with the storm were recorded for the trailer. It doesnt make any sense to put it in the trailer and cut it from the game.

They do this ALL THE TIME, almost every single trailer known to man, be it for movies, tv shows, games, etc., will have content that either eventually gets cut from the full release, or was specifically made for the trailer (there was some movie a few years ago, a pretty generic horror/slasher film about people getting killed on christmas or something, but it become infamous because almost every single scene in the trailer was cut from the final release)

So basically, yea, they COULD have just recorded Nathan's lines for the trailer, but those lines are pretty huge in terms of the story and how it all fits together. Given how much thought Dontnod has put into this whole series so far, i highly doubt they would record lines like that just for the trailer... it seems more likely that they intended for those lines to be somewhere in episode 4 (or 5), but realized how huge of an impact those lines have on the story and the whole mystery of the game

[Anacosta]

i also don't see why people are still speculating about who the "Big Daddy" mentioned is... to me it seems like there is no doubt it is Sean Prescott


Nathan's psychyatrist already said in an email in episode 4 (and i don't know how old the email is, i didn't check the date, if it even had one) that he/she was tired of having his medical advice ignored by the prescott family and was therefor not going to treat Nathan anymore, although he/she seemed genuinely concerned about Nathan's wellbeing

Also, think about Nathan's personality... does it make sense for him to call anyone OTHER than his father "big daddy"? Nathan is arrogant and stubborn, and he's not shown to be afraid of anyone in the game other than himself and his father (and MAYBE Jefferson, although there's probably not much evidence to support that)

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Publicado originalmente por angeleyes983745:

So basically, yea, they COULD have just recorded Nathan's lines for the trailer, but those lines are pretty huge in terms of the story and how it all fits together. Given how much thought Dontnod has put into this whole series so far, i highly doubt they would record lines like that just for the trailer... it seems more likely that they intended for those lines to be somewhere in episode 4 (or 5), but realized how huge of an impact those lines have on the story and the whole mystery of the game

So, they intended the lines to be in ep. 4 but they cut it from the game and used in the trailer. It doesnt make any sense. The lines are from ep. 5 doesnt make any sense at all. I have to give that even if they're in ep. 5 he will say them when the storm is already there which mean he saw it already but i doubt it. This is what i call diversion.

Oh well, we'll see in ep. 5. :)

[Sten]

Dosent make sense for them to be in Ep5. Nathan says ur all gonna die. but Chloe is dead already and Maxs fate is kida screwd also(ehm) Unless it means we are gonna travel back again

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Publicado originalmente por H.F.von Tiesenhausen:

Dosent make sense for them to be in Ep5. Nathan says ur all gonna die. but Chloe is dead already and Maxs fate is kida screwd also(ehm) Unless it means we are gonna travel back again

This has to be from the fighting scene instead, because Nathan is saying they're ALL dead, and that his dad will come. This doesn't fit with the Max and Jefferson scene, but with the Max, Chloe, and Warren scene.

What ultimately gives it away, though, is that he comments his face is disfigured. Tell me, when does that happen?

[Anacosta]

like i said, they probably INTENDED for the lines to be in episode 4, hence them being in the trailer for it (and when he says them isn't really up for debate, it's pretty clear the lines are from the warren fight scene, during several of the takes you can hear him sort of sputtering and groaning between words, as if he's being beaten up or trying to stand up) but they got cut either because Dontnot felt they didn't fit with the story so far (most likely), or because they felt it revealed too much too early

I don't see how this is hard for you to understand ICO... they wanted them to be in ep 4, they made the trailer, then afetrwards the lines got cut for whatever reason... it happens all the time, in other video games trailers, and movies, and tv shows; pretty much every form of media

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[Jenenser]

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In fact, there is a deleted scene with Daniel that you can see here (Episode 2 beta):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM

I am pretty sure that Daniel-dialogue is ingame. Or at least was released with Ep2.

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Publicado originalmente por Jenenser:

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In fact, there is a deleted scene with Daniel that you can see here (Episode 2 beta):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7DQWSn5rM

I am pretty sure that Daniel-dialogue is ingame. Or at least was released with Ep2.

It isn't. If you go to the place it should be now, you'll just hear one line of dialog.

[King Yuri]

if it was deleted it means nothing now

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Publicado originalmente por THE JOKER:

if it was deleted it means nothing now

You can't be so sure of that. Maybe it was deleted because it gave too much of the plot too early. You can also see in one earlier (also cut) file that Max asks Nathan point-blank if he raped Chloe, and he readily denies. In this one, he denies "hurting" Kate. We might hear all about it in Episode 5.