[MAJOR SPOILER] The Curious Case of Warren Graham

[Arashi]

The steam community has mentioned some really interesting theories about who should be on the list of prime suspects. But I would like to bring up a character that is unwary of by most players.

That person is Warren Graham.

Despite his attempts to look innocent and friendly. There are a few incidents that point to his evil/dishonest nature:-

1. After you return the flash drive to him. He mentioned a very disturbing movie called Cannibal Holocaust[en.wikipedia.org] which portrays graphic brutality, sexual assault and violence towards animals. This movie is not just an average horror movie. It is very sick and you can watch it if you don't believe me and Warren said that he "laughed his a s s off" watching it. Max would respond by saying that he is a 'sensitive' guy and he would reply that Max said it in an awful way. If you asked "How so?" he would reply "sensitive means not gonna have sex with you". In a note that he left in Max's room he mentioned another movie "Ultravixens" which is basically a film full of excessive porn action.

The above suggests that Warren could possess a violent nature along with strong desire for a sexual relationship with Max rather than a romantic one.

2. In episode 2 when you confront the awaiting Warren outside the girl's dorm, the conversation involves Warren asking Max out to a drive in movie 60 miles out of town, which is a prime location for Warren to assault a helpless young girl and possibly make her "disappear" afterwards. If you say "yes" Warren would call Brooke and tell her he's no longer going to the movie with her. Implying that he had Brooke as a backup plan all along.

The above suggests his dishonest nature and in general it's simply a d i c k move to do that to Brooke.

3. In episode 2 inside the science lab you can find a graffiti on the table close to where Brooke is standing which reads "Warren+Alyssa 2013" in a heart shape. You can also see Warren wrapping his arms around Alyssa comforting her when Kate is about to jump off the building.

The above suggests that Warren has simultaneously maintained a romantic relationship with Alyssa without Max's knowledge. At the same time actively persuing Max and passively keeping Brooke in the scope. The fact that he is eager to persue multiple female characters also suggests that he could have other secret relationships that we have not discovered yet. Namely Kate Marsh? Rachel Amber?

4. In episode 3 max found a developed photo of herself and Warren inside his locker in the boy's changing room at the swimming pool. Her surprise attitude suggests that this photo is not a photo they have taken together. Naturally a photo taken together would be using Max's camera. Rather this is a photo Warren editted and pieced together. This is backed up by the fact that Warren mentioned he is good at using graphical editing software when he discovered Daniel posted a portrait of Max online and if Max asked him "Can you draw?".

The above suggests that Warren is obsessive about Max. His look on that photo is also creepy as f.

5. In episode 3 Warren also told Max that he bought an extra movie ticket just in case she changed her mind. However by examining a poster at the diner it clearly shows that the drive-in ticket is per car not per person. This implies that Warren is telling another outright lie.

Warren and Jefferson are both characters that the developers purposefully put under the radar to look clean and innocent. However after examining the hints they left behind I am more disturbed by Warren than Jefferson. As a male myself I know Warren's behaviour is clearly abnormal. I am convinced that Warren is one of if not the biggest threat to Max's safety and I recommend everyone to watch out on this guy in the future.

Mysteries/Speculations:-

1. Warren has asked for his flash drive back in less than a week while expecting Max to check out most of the content inside when he lent it. Why did he suddenly want it back urgently? Does he know Dana borrowed the flash drive? Is there something he doesn't want Dana to see?

2. Before Kate jump off the building Warren walked into Max's classroom and mentioned that he saw Kate and asked Kate what's wrong before Jefferson asked him to leave. What exactly was the conversation between Warren and Kate? Did he make nasty comments about Kate's video (He confessed to Max that he watched Kate's video "one and a half times" at the end of episode 2)? In a storytelling point of view this scene is totally unnecessary unless Warren is somehow involved in Kate's suicide attempt.

3. In episode 3 Warren seems to have hidden the fact that sodium chlorate is used in weed killer purposefully from Max. Max only found out by examining a textbook in the science lab. Did he hide the fact so that Max would fail and ask him to come and help? Or does he know Max is breaking into the principal office and wants Max to fail?

4. Kate asked for her book "October Country" by Ray Bradbury back the very next day after Warren asked for his flash drive back. In Max's journal she mentioned Warren threatened to revoke Max's "geek cred" because she hadn't read many books written by Ray Bradbury. Is there a connection betweeen these two events?

5. If you compare Nathan and Warren their facial features actually look quite similar. Are the two related in blood or just coincidence?

EDIT: 6. It seems that Warren only targets girls that are not part of the vortex club for some unknown reason (probably due to them more likely to be bullied and vulnerable). In the alternative timeline Warren hooked up with Stella presumbaly because Max became a vortex club member.

[RepairCat]

This...actually makes sense... I somehow regret that i agreed to go to the drive in with him...

Also, i blame Warren for what happened at the end of episode 3. If he had added The Butterfly Effect to the list of time travel movies for Max she would have known it was a bad idea in the first place. :D

[Pewterº]

Originally posted by Ironheade:

Also, i blame Warren for what happened at the end of episode 3. If he had added The Butterfly Effect to the list of time travel movies for Max she would have known it was a bad idea in the first place. :D

Jeez Warren, how inconsiderate.
To be honest though, I'm glad Max chooses not to disclose her powers to him. I guess she could always undo it if it goes wrong though.

[elsie]

Very nice. You forgot the one where Warren's outside hiding behind a building while lookin' at Max's room. Dude's a creeper.

[Pewterº]

Originally posted by Valentine:

Very nice. You forgot the one where Warren's outside hiding behind a building while lookin' at Max's room. Dude's a creeper.

WHAT

[elsie]

Originally posted by Pewterº:

Originally posted by Valentine:

Very nice. You forgot the one where Warren's outside hiding behind a building while lookin' at Max's room. Dude's a creeper.

WHAT

https://steamcommunity.com/app/319630/discussions/0/618457398961594216/?insideModal=1#p1

lol

[Arashi]

Originally posted by Valentine:

Very nice. You forgot the one where Warren's outside hiding behind a building while lookin' at Max's room. Dude's a creeper.

I would have totally mentioned it but some people claimed this action is normal for a boy falling in love. I personally think it is quite suspicious given that he repetitvely peeked through Max's window but I was too lazy to put it in my post as I think this is not a solid enough proof.

[Amee Jay]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This post scared me. Thank god I kissed Chloe hahaha I was puzzled seeing Warren hug Alyssa. Just hearing Cannibal Holocaust we know it's terrible. I have seen most of the things mentioned but never actually thought about it deeply. Damn Warren.

[Arashi]

Originally posted by Pewterº:

Jeez Warren, how inconsiderate.
To be honest though, I'm glad Max chooses not to disclose her powers to him. I guess she could always undo it if it goes wrong though.

I am not sure about the ability to rewind if Max tells Warren about her ability. I mean she told Chloe she can rewind time. You can't rewind the story back to before you confess to Chloe. You know what I mean?

[Arashi]

Originally posted by Amee Jay:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. This post scared me. Thank god I kissed Chloe hahaha I was puzzled seeing Warren hug Alyssa. Just hearing Cannibal Holocaust we know it's terrible. I have seen most of the things mentioned but never actually thought about it deeply. Damn Warren.

I believe both Warren and Jefferson are not trustworthy. We will have to see how things turn out in episode 4.

[Will]

I haven't noticed like half of these things but I think Warren is incredibly suspicious. I also think David and the principle will turn out to be good guys, and Frank will turn out to be innocent or at least not directly involved. The rich kid will probably be involved but used more as a pawn by others instead of acting on his own plans.

[Rinkashi]

Originally posted by Arashi:

2. Before Kate jump off the building Warren walked into Max's classroom and mentioned that he saw Kate and asked Kate what's wrong before Jefferson asked him to leave.

That is not entirely true, I played that episode a couple of times and from what I remember he only said that he saw her in the hallway, her eyes were puffy from crying and that he did not know what to say. However, I do think he wanted to say something else when mr. Jefferson asked him to leave.

As for all the other things mentioned here, I too think he is a suspicious guy and I don't trust him. Although I am not sure if he is involved in Rachel missing and Kate's suicide (attempt), but I would not be suprised if it turns out he is involved.

[Arashi]

Originally posted by NL Rinkashi:

Originally posted by Arashi:

2. Before Kate jump off the building Warren walked into Max's classroom and mentioned that he saw Kate and asked Kate what's wrong before Jefferson asked him to leave.

That is not entirely true, I played that episode a couple of times and from what I remember he only said that he saw her in the hallway, her eyes were puffy from crying and that he did not know what to say. However, I do think he wanted to say something else when mr. Jefferson asked him to leave.

As for all the other things mentioned here, I too think he is a suspicious guy and I don't trust him. Although I am not sure if he is involved in Rachel missing and Kate's suicide (attempt), but I would not be suprised if it turns out he is involved.

I didn't get the exact wording right while you did. But I guess what I am trying to point out is that Warren seemed to have confronted Kate before coming to talk to Max and he is possibly the last person who talked to Kate before she attempted suicide.

[Rinkashi]

I know what you mean. I found it odd that he would say that at that moment, as they do not appear to be friends and he usually just "ignores" her (as far as I could find out).

I kinda expected Kate to try to jump, I just did not expect Warren to come and say something before she did.

[Arashi]

Originally posted by NL Rinkashi:

I know what you mean. I found it odd that he would say that at that moment, as they do not appear to be friends and he usually just "ignores" her (as far as I could find out).

I kinda expected Kate to try to jump, I just did not expect Warren to come and say something before she did.

Some sources claimed that Warren and Kate are friends but I can't find any clear indication in game that they are indeed friends. Maybe I missed something here or there.

Yea when he randomly walked in to talk about Kate it really caught my eye and the fact that this happened right before Kate tried to jump really got me to think about why did he decide to walk bluntly into the classroom to talk about the issue and what is the meaning behind this scene.

[Alyx]

(Since you apparently made an entire new thread about it, I'm going to reply here too)

Originally posted by Arashi:

1. After you return the flash drive to him. He mentioned a very disturbing movie called Cannibal Holocaust[en.wikipedia.org] which portrays graphic brutality, sexual assault and violence towards animals. This movie is not just an average horror movie. It is very sick and you can watch it if you don't believe me and Warren said that he "laughed his a s s off" watching it. Max would respond by saying that he is a 'sensitive' guy and he would reply that Max said it in an awful way. If you asked "How so?" he would reply "sensitive means not gonna have sex with you". In a note that he left in Max's room he mentioned another movie "Ultravixens" which is basically a film full of excessive porn action.

I'm going to play Devil's advocate here, for a moment. :)

His bizarre taste in movies makes Warren creepy, yes. But he wouldn't be the first disturbed teenager watching porn, though.

The above suggests that Warren could possess a violent nature along with strong desire for a sexual relationship with Max rather than a romantic one.

Being physically attracted to Max makes him as guilty as... well, just about everyone else. :) Max is simply beautiful.

2. In episode 2 when you confront the awaiting Warren outside the girl's dorm, the conversation involves Warren asking Max out to a drive in movie 60 miles out of town, which is a prime location for Warren to assault a helpless young girl and possibly make her "disappear" afterwards. If you say "yes" Warren would call Brooke and tell her he's no longer going to the movie with her. Implying that he had Brooke as a backup plan all along.

The above suggests his dishonest nature and in general it's simply a d i c k move to do that to Brooke.

Yep, Warren is a d i c k alright, just really looking to get laid. That doesn't exactly separate him from 90% of the other boys his age, though.

4. In episode 3 max found a developed photo of herself and Warren inside his locker in the boy's changing room at the swimming pool. Her surprise attitude suggests that this photo is not a photo they have taken together. Naturally a photo taken together would be using Max's camera. Rather this is a photo Warren editted and pieced together. This is backed up by the fact that Warren mentioned he is good at using graphical editing software when he discovered Daniel posted a portrait of Max online and if Max asked him "Can you draw?".

Or could just be that he wants to show off the picture to his friends, as in "Hey, look! Max and I are an item."

The above suggests that Warren is obsessive about Max. His look on that photo is also creepy as f.

Yep, he's a creep; and stalky. And I want nothing to do with him.

5. In episode 3 Warren also told Max that he bought an extra movie ticket just in case she changed her mind. However by examining a poster/ticket around the campus it clearly shows that the drive-in ticket is per car not per person. This implies that Warren is telling another outright lie.

So he told a fib to hint to Max he's still interested in her. Yup, sleazy; but does that make him an abductor?! I mean, let's be honest to ourselves, Chloe lies all the time, and I've yet to hear someone brand her a prime suspect.

Mysteries/Speculations:-

1. Warren has asked for his flash drive back in less than a week while expecting Max to check out most of the content inside when he lent it. Why did he suddenly want it back urgently? Does he know Dana borrowed the flash drive? Is there something he doesn't want Dana to see?

Or he simply thought his clever ruse (= getting Max to check out the contents) had failed, and pretended to need it back, just so he could see Max again.

3. In episode 3 Warren seems to have hidden the fact that sodium chlorate is used in weed killer purposefully from Max. Max only found out by examining a textbook in the science lab. Did he hide the fact so that Max would fail and ask him to come and help? Or does he know Max is breaking into the principal office and wants Max to fail?

In my play-thru, I'm pretty sure he mentioned the sodium chlorate.

4. Kate asked for her book "October Country" by Ray Bradbury back the very next day after Warren asked for his flash drive back. In Max's journal she mentioned Warren threatened to revoke Max's "geek cred" because she hadn't read many books written by Ray Bradbury. Is there a connection betweeen these two events?

Warren is obviously into macabre things. To wit:

Cannibal Holocaust[en.wikipedia.org]
The October Country[en.wikipedia.org]

While I'd call him disturbed, he doesn't see himself that way, of course: he just thinks he's a geek (and fancies/hopes Max to be like-minded).

Could be he got annoyed with Kate for wanting her book back (having hoped Kate would have taken the bait, and have become interested in him, because he thought Kate was into that sort of thing too, whereas Kate just asked to have her book returned). And that, seeing yet another masterplan gone to waste (= aka, the trying to get into the pants of any girl he can get his hands on), he therefore feels he's now entitled to have his flashdrive back too.

Warren is a creep. And I'd never go out with him. He wouldn't even be in my friendzone. I just don't see him as the main villain, is all. He's simply not connected enough to orchestrate the disappearance/drugging of many young women. Unless he got help from Mr. Jefferson ("Rachel in the Dark Room", after all) and/or Nathan; but the latter isn't the type pf person taking orders from the likes of Warren; whereas Mr. Jefferson, on the other hand, would be in an ideal position to manipulate Nathan.