Rachel Amber...dead or alive?

[gta_fan]

I played this on PS3 & PS4, Max and Chloe headed to the Junk Yard from that room under the barn (ep 4) and Chloe saw her clothes after they dug and I thought dead (even though it was just a piece of clothing and smell)....than when I bought this game on steam and played it, when I got to the dark room, before Max left with Chloe, she looked at Rachel's folder and saw her alive, I thought Rachel's alive after all and when they discovered Rachel's piece of clothing buired, I thought NO PROOF OF BODY, maybe her clothes was just buried and some kind of rot smell was sprayed on the clothes

than I saw the doe watching them and than fade, maybe Rachel really is dead and her animal spirit was a doe

[Deku Dec (ง︡'-'︠)ง]

Mark this as spoiler

[Buu Introspectivo]

Rachel is dead. That's a body, they just don't show a rotting carcass, because it's unnecessary.
The only thing that isn't clear is if Nathan was conscious when Amber was buried. Most likely Mark Jefferson hid it from Nathan Prescott.

[RorytheRomulan]

I don't even know what to make of the deer and I mostly don't care. I don't think there's any market out there for a spray that smells like rot. How do you replicate that? Why would you want to? I mean it would be easy to make it smell like something's rotting by putting a rotting animal in the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a rotting deer, but I would be surprised if she wasn't dead. Remember, she's been missing for a long time. Any rotting corpse put in there at the time would be one with the dirt by then.

[Kamisama]

Originally posted by gta_fan:

I played this on PS3 & PS4, Max and Chloe headed to the Junk Yard from that room under the barn (ep 4) and Chloe saw her clothes after they dug and I thought dead (even though it was just a piece of clothing and smell)....than when I bought this game on steam and played it, when I got to the dark room, before Max left with Chloe, she looked at Rachel's folder and saw her alive, I thought Rachel's alive after all and when they discovered Rachel's piece of clothing buired, I thought NO PROOF OF BODY, maybe her clothes was just buried and some kind of rot smell was sprayed on the clothes

than I saw the doe watching them and than fade, maybe Rachel really is dead and her animal spirit was a doe

Dead! Deal with it!

edit: Honestly she's better dead buried under this grave for the sake of the story. Devs have until episode 4 to decide whether we would find her dead or alive. Now episode 5 is coming and there is the tornado to deal with. And I really don't want Rachel appear all of a sudden like "Hey guys! How are you?"
Life is strange has 3 arcs: Kate's arc ended in episode 2, Rachel's arc that ended and should end here in episode 4, and the tornado arc in episode 5.

[hargharg]

You know, Rachel could be dead AND alive...

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by João Augusto:

Rachel is dead. That's a body, they just don't show a rotting carcass, because it's unnecessary.
The only thing that isn't clear is if Nathan was conscious when Amber was buried. Most likely Mark Jefferson hid it from Nathan Prescott.

That is true. It would have taken them time and money for dontnod to render a dead corpse, especially one that is rotting.

It would also be too graphic. Sure there is that Japanese art in the Dark Room, but that drawing had probably taken less time than to render and texturized a body.

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by hargharg:

You know, Rachel could be dead AND alive...

Has the game mentioned Schrödinger's Cat Paradox? If they did, I would cringe if they would do that to Rachel as the game Virture's Last Reward, made by a Japanese company, used the paradox as a major theme where Yuki, who is the main character's(a supporting character in the sequel) love interest in the first game, is the old lady who dies in one of the elevator. It is revealed in the ending that the old lady is actually alive in one timeline, which is the "correct" timeline. The whole point of the game was about infinite worlds and Schrödinger's Cat Paradox.

[hargharg]

Originally posted by Doesnotcompute83:

Originally posted by hargharg:

You know, Rachel could be dead AND alive...

Has the game mentioned Schrödinger's Cat Paradox? If they did, I would cringe if they would do that to Rachel as the game Virture's Last Reward, made by a Japanese company, used the paradox as a major theme where Yuki, who is the main character's(a supporting character in the sequel) love interest in the first game, is the old lady who dies in one of the elevator. It is revealed in the ending that the old lady is actually alive in one timeline, which is the "correct" timeline. The whole point of the game was about infinite worlds and Schrödinger's Cat Paradox.

I can see at least 3 different ways Rachel could be dead and alive and they don't have much to do with the kittie.

[sarahisstrange]

Originally posted by hargharg:

Originally posted by Doesnotcompute83:

Has the game mentioned Schrödinger's Cat Paradox? If they did, I would cringe if they would do that to Rachel as the game Virture's Last Reward, made by a Japanese company, used the paradox as a major theme where Yuki, who is the main character's(a supporting character in the sequel) love interest in the first game, is the old lady who dies in one of the elevator. It is revealed in the ending that the old lady is actually alive in one timeline, which is the "correct" timeline. The whole point of the game was about infinite worlds and Schrödinger's Cat Paradox.

I can see at least 3 different ways Rachel could be dead and alive and they don't have much to do with the kittie.

can u explain it more? like how?

[sarahisstrange]

[spoilers below]
and guys i did had a terrible dream about Max earlier. I dreamt about Max was drugged and woke up to become Rachel Amber in a dark place where she was kidnapped and there were corpses beside her.
but it doesn't make sense as I think that the developers have made it clear that Rachel is dead.

[MorningLightMountain]

Originally posted by Doesnotcompute83:

Originally posted by hargharg:

You know, Rachel could be dead AND alive...

Has the game mentioned Schrödinger's Cat Paradox? If they did, I would cringe if they would do that to Rachel as the game Virture's Last Reward, made by a Japanese company, used the paradox as a major theme where Yuki, who is the main character's(a supporting character in the sequel) love interest in the first game, is the old lady who dies in one of the elevator. It is revealed in the ending that the old lady is actually alive in one timeline, which is the "correct" timeline. The whole point of the game was about infinite worlds and Schrödinger's Cat Paradox.

Repeatedly through Warren. His shirt in episode two was a direct reference to it.

Originally posted by Hywéon:

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Life is strange has 3 arcs: Kate's arc ended in episode 2, Rachel's arc that ended and should end here in episode 4, and the tornado arc in episode 5.

Well mostly just one with all of those being parts of it.

[Fattyshow]

Some things I expect about episode 5 Warren will be looking for us because he knows something is going on and we were going to that ape movie on Friday.
Victoria is their target so she will probably be in the dark room too.
Nathan was upset, was that because we found out about Rachel or does he not want Victoria to be his next target?
Also there is a storm coming so it will be chaotic at some point.
Multiple decissions from the past will now make a big role like taking revenge on Victoria or not, killing Frank, shooting frank or not at all, stopping Warren from owning Nathan or not. Even some of the very small ones like preventing Alyssa to be hit for 50 times.

[Spider With Web]

When Max said "That smell..." in Ep 4 , I think it's safe to believe Rachel is really dead. But who knows? Better wait for Ep 5.

[Jeckenn]

Originally posted by hbh128:

I don't even know what to make of the deer and I mostly don't care. I don't think there's any market out there for a spray that smells like rot. How do you replicate that? Why would you want to? I mean it would be easy to make it smell like something's rotting by putting a rotting animal in the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be a rotting deer, but I would be surprised if she wasn't dead. Remember, she's been missing for a long time. Any rotting corpse put in there at the time would be one with the dirt by then.

Well in Witcher the Wildhunt you use Buckthorn the set a trap that smells like rotting flesh to lure in a Griffin you take a contract out on to kill...just sayin'

[Valdyr]

The chemicals cadaverine and putrescine can create the smell of a rotting corpse. It's possible the junkyard grave is a fake. In a game with the supernatural and time travel, I'm not sure you could even say with 100% certainty that Rachel is gone forever even if the junkyard grave is real and DNA testing confirms it's Rachel's remains. But I think she's dead, because that makes the most sense with the overall story and character development for Chloe, learning to try to let go of her pain and move on.