[Spoilers] Any signifigance to Chloe's bullet necklace?

[Chugster]

Just finished my 2nd PT (only slightly less traumatic this time) and i noticed in the BAE cutscene the camera focuses on her necklace for quite a while before panning up to her face.

I know Dontnod dont do anything ingame without some sort of meaning so i was just wondering.

Still feel BAE over Bay....everything ingame leads me to this...I just wish we had a longer, more effective cutscene for it....TOO SHORT DAMMIT!!!!

[Jackalope_908]

引用自 Jeckenn：

引用自 Chugster：

Can anyone identify what bullets they are? I want to replicate the necklace but I need to know the size/calibre so I can get some deactivated versions.

I tried ebay for bullet necklaces but couldn't find one that matches

Hard to say because it is all hand drawn, but I think the gun she steals from David is a 38 calibre as at one point Frank says that Max gripped the "pop gun" with two hands like it was a 44 Magnum" something like that...So the gun she steals is obviously less calibre then the 44 magnum.

Max doesn't strike me as someone who is trained in guns. Chloe probably picked up some decent gun knowledge from David through sheer osmosis, anyone who likes guns like he does is likely to have magazines and books lying around. That's not to say she has adequate practical knowledge, the whole "junkyard as a target range" thing pretty much draws a conclusive line under that.

To my (untrained) eyes, Chloe's necklace looks like rifle shells, maybe swiped from one of David's boxes. Drilling them out and removing the powder to thread them would take some knowledge and tools (you shouldn't try it with just a hand drill on the kitchen counter), so I figure there's two possibilities: A: she swiped the bullets and made the necklace herself, of B: someone made it for her. I guess it breaks down to her opinion of the necklace, either "It looks badass" or "someone I care(d) about gave it to me".

Personally I'm inclined to the former, if only because of meta story rules... not EVERYTHING has to be deep and significant, sometimes it just looks badass.

[Jeckenn]

引用自 Dave III：

引用自 Jeckenn：

Hard to say because it is all hand drawn, but I think the gun she steals from David is a 38 calibre as at one point Frank says that Max gripped the "pop gun" with two hands like it was a 44 Magnum" something like that...So the gun she steals is obviously less calibre then the 44 magnum.

Max doesn't strike me as someone who is trained in guns. Chloe probably picked up some decent gun knowledge from David through sheer osmosis, anyone who likes guns like he does is likely to have magazines and books lying around. That's not to say she has adequate practical knowledge, the whole "junkyard as a target range" thing pretty much draws a conclusive line under that.

To my (untrained) eyes, Chloe's necklace looks like rifle shells, maybe swiped from one of David's boxes. Drilling them out and removing the powder to thread them would take some knowledge and tools (you shouldn't try it with just a hand drill on the kitchen counter), so I figure there's two possibilities: A: she swiped the bullets and made the necklace herself, of B: someone made it for her. I guess it breaks down to her opinion of the necklace, either "It looks badass" or "someone I care(d) about gave it to me".

Personally I'm inclined to the former, if only because of meta story rules... not EVERYTHING has to be deep and significant, sometimes it just looks badass.

Totally agree ^^ I was just pointing out that the gun Chloe stole from David is a smaller calibre so maybe the necklace is as well, but you are right the shells on the necklace look like a 222 rifle shell to me. which is basically a target practice rifle calibre.

[Shinzou]

I agree with the above, they seem to be rather small caliber? Maybe 22 for hunting rifles? I am no expert on the matter at all, all i know comes from movies and video games ;) But they do seem rather small, so maybe they are not real bullets after all and just a replica necklace made to look like bullets...

But as far as Chloe's knowledge about guns goes, she HAS watched hundreds of Youtube videos about it, you know, heh ;)

[Mazian]

引用自 Calanthe：

Judging by "Hell is Full" art Chloe will get her necklace in the next episode.

This is possible-- but DN devs went on record saying that they didn't really write in to Chloe's backstory where she got the necklace-- and of course

引用自 CAPTAIN VI：

I think the necklace was there to foreshadow EP4 ending. Chloe gets shot 3 times during the game:

• In the bathroom (by Nathan)
  
• The 2nd Day on the junkyard (ricochet during her gun practice session)
  
• The 4th day on the junkyard (by Jefferson)

I don't think this speculation was substantiated, but it's a stronger variation of the speculation that it's tied to her number of deaths.

Because she can die in every single episode of LiS1-- Ep1, shot in the bathroom, Ep2 shot in the junkyard or run over by the train, ep3 if you OD her on morphene, ep4 in the junkyard,
ep5 when you visit the AU where you go to SF for the photo contest, and if you sacrifice her to save the bay. So... she can die a whole ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of times.

[I'm a furry (REAL)]

maybe its the amount of people who she thinks "abandoned" her, even though she wore it prior to rachel leaving it could be foreshadowing

[Mazian]

引用自 Mod Mark：

maybe its the amount of people who she thinks "abandoned" her, even though she wore it prior to rachel leaving it could be foreshadowing

Prior to Rachel leaving, there's still:

Bongo
William
Max

So if you want to go literal-- that's as good an explanation as any. (Not that I speculate this was the dev's reasons for choosing 3 bullets-- I think it has more to do with the fact that trinities are in all sorts of mythology and mysticism. People gravitate towards them naturally. They may have picked 3 bullets just because it was an aesthetic choice-- because 2 or 4 looked funny to them.)

[Jackalope_908]

引用自 Mazian：

引用自 Mod Mark：

maybe its the amount of people who she thinks "abandoned" her, even though she wore it prior to rachel leaving it could be foreshadowing

Prior to Rachel leaving, there's still:

Bongo
William
Max

So if you want to go literal-- that's as good an explanation as any. (Not that I speculate this was the dev's reasons for choosing 3 bullets-- I think it has more to do with the fact that trinities are in all sorts of mythology and mysticism. People gravitate towards them naturally. They may have picked 3 bullets just because it was an aesthetic choice-- because 2 or 4 looked funny to them.)

I still say "because it looks cool". Not to call Chloe superficial but for everything in her life to have DEEP MEANING is a little unreasonable, as well.

[Mazian]

引用自 Dave III：

I still say "because it looks cool". Not to call Chloe superficial but for everything in her life to have DEEP MEANING is a little unreasonable, as well.

I'm with you-- but I think there is a possible meta reason-- what the devs wanted vs what Chloe wanted. But as no one I know reads minds or was part of the dev team, I chalk it up as something that can never be known.

[Jeckenn]

引用自 Shinzou：

I agree with the above, they seem to be rather small caliber? Maybe 22 for hunting rifles? I am no expert on the matter at all, all i know comes from movies and video games ;) But they do seem rather small, so maybe they are not real bullets after all and just a replica necklace made to look like bullets...

But as far as Chloe's knowledge about guns goes, she HAS watched hundreds of Youtube videos about it, you know, heh ;)

I don't think it is a 22 but rather a .222 calibre that was created by Remmington for target practice mostly because it has very little kick and therefore better accuracy. The .22 calibre is a rimfire caliber and the .222 is a center fire caliber.

[Shinzou]

引用自 Jeckenn：

引用自 Shinzou：

I agree with the above, they seem to be rather small caliber? Maybe 22 for hunting rifles? I am no expert on the matter at all, all i know comes from movies and video games ;) But they do seem rather small, so maybe they are not real bullets after all and just a replica necklace made to look like bullets...

But as far as Chloe's knowledge about guns goes, she HAS watched hundreds of Youtube videos about it, you know, heh ;)

I don't think it is a 22 but rather a .222 calibre that was created by Remmington for target practice mostly because it has very little kick and therefore better accuracy. The .22 calibre is a rimfire caliber and the .222 is a center fire caliber.

Eh, now i sound lame, but i did actually want to type 222. But yeah, i am not knowledgeable on this at all ;) Guns are just not a thing where i live, so as i said, all movies and comic books in this area.

[Jackalope_908]

Oh, surely someone knows SOMEONE who's enough of a gun person to be able to spot the proper type. UNLESS...... Maybe they're not real bullets at all, just pressed metal for the specific and sole purpose of being pendants. Maybe they were picked up at a craft fair or-- heaven forbid-- at Hot Topic.

[Shinzou]

引用自 Dave III：

Oh, surely someone knows SOMEONE who's enough of a gun person to be able to spot the proper type. UNLESS...... Maybe they're not real bullets at all, just pressed metal for the specific and sole purpose of being pendants. Maybe they were picked up at a craft fair or-- heaven forbid-- at Hot Topic.

Pretty sure Chloe would not go to Hot Topic, but we all are weak sometimes when we see something we think is cool.

I think the bullets are way too small to be real ones (especially since the look like rifle rounds more than hand gun ones), so i am going with the "it is just an amulet" idea. For now...

[Jeckenn]

引用自 Shinzou：

引用自 Jeckenn：

I don't think it is a 22 but rather a .222 calibre that was created by Remmington for target practice mostly because it has very little kick and therefore better accuracy. The .22 calibre is a rimfire caliber and the .222 is a center fire caliber.

Eh, now i sound lame, but i did actually want to type 222. But yeah, i am not knowledgeable on this at all ;) Guns are just not a thing where i live, so as i said, all movies and comic books in this area.

Hey not a problem, I think the .222 calibre is used a lot in things like that winter Olympics ski race thing where they cross country ski and stop every once in a while to shoot at some targets and i am pretty sure that is the calibre they use for that because it is extremely accurate and can be made very light weight.

[Jackalope_908]

Two questions sprang to mind:

One, is there a chance they might not be American standard bullets, but French standard?

Two, ................has anyone thought to ask DontNod?

[Shinzou]

引用自 Dave III：

Two questions sprang to mind:

One, is there a chance they might not be American standard bullets, but French standard?

Two, ................has anyone thought to ask DontNod?

Good thinking, but i think gun (or rather cartridge) calibers are worldwide standards. I know 9mm is widely used here, and i have heard terms like .357 and .50 thrown around by Germans as well as Japanese people in the military (i am a translator, so i had some contact there).

As for asking Dontnod, i remember such a thread on Reddit, and they were not very forthcoming. Also i think somebody here asked Deck Nine, since they made the amulet Canon BEFORE Chloe met Rachel, and the answer also was ambiguous (something along the lines of "Chloe just thought it was a cool necklace").

Personally i consider it a screwup, i think she should have only had that after Rachel left her. But here we are.