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Darklordkirby Sep 13, 2016 @ 12:30am
Bug:crystal of the macguffin (associates)
I've redone this quest 3 times (to the point of killing everything, huging all the walls with miniture suns+nomicom in my robe, and entering the portal to open gem chests).

In the first two i failed and had to restart as the ancient crystal did not spawn so the mission failed with the aceologist asking if i collected all of them.

In the third attempt the ancient crystal finnaly dropped along with the other three allowing the quest to be completed instead of failing.

However the acheologist said that i only collected 3 of the 4 crystals saying azeal took one so im left confused, wondering if the map bugged twice or if the whole mission is bugged.
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Laddo D  [developer] Sep 13, 2016 @ 10:08am 
Thanks for posting this.

The third run is correct, you collect the Power Crystal, the Mystic Crystal, and the Ancient Crystal, while Azazel escapes with the Super Crystal.

As for the first two runs, I'm afraid I've had no success trying to reproduce this under all kinds of conditions. Do you happen to know if anything else unusual was happening at the time? If something like this happens again, you can find the level seed on the pause menu in the bottom left corner. Please post it here and I should be able to fix it.
Darklordkirby Sep 13, 2016 @ 9:43pm 
i did happen to save the seed for the first one
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763367282
seed is 25819-0-3-cavern_archaeologist_story1

also more specifics
robe: miniture sun B, miniture sun B, crystal ball C, shade spirit A
wand: fairy wing B, fairy wing B, Green belt A, green belt F, enchantment mode
spell 1: optic lens B, magic boomerang B, noxious spores B, Guillotine blade C
spell 2: illusion dust C, bounce ball B, Necrom-nomicon B, spider silk C
artifact: socks of jumpin

for the most part i killed everything via robe damage effects, including the dark wizard spirit thing which appeared and immediatly died, didnt use spell 1 or 2 at all, and found all the crystals thanks to the robe dmg aura. had no problem getting the chest gems and azazel acted and said the same things all 3 times.

and on a last note that im afraid i dont have anything for, on one of the attempts there was 3 ice gargoyles at the top right of the sky which i only noticed as i was searching for the anchient crystal everywhere while also using jumping socks. and by top right i mean all the way up to the border of the sky box.
Last edited by Darklordkirby; Sep 13, 2016 @ 9:44pm
Laddo D  [developer] Sep 14, 2016 @ 11:38am 
Hmm, unfortunately when I use that seed the Ancient Crystal generates for me. And I have the exact same room, with the same crystal formations as there are in the screenshot, so I'm very confident we're looking at the same level. I don't think you missed it, because it sounds like you were very thorough, so I'm a bit at a loss for what could have happened.

Maybe the crystal didn't spawn properly when the cave block was destroyed, or the cave block became immune somehow? But presently, I don't think there's enough information to fix this nor are there any opportunities to gather new information.
Fulgent Jan 25, 2017 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Laddo D:
Hmm, unfortunately when I use that seed the Ancient Crystal generates for me. And I have the exact same room, with the same crystal formations as there are in the screenshot, so I'm very confident we're looking at the same level. I don't think you missed it, because it sounds like you were very thorough, so I'm a bit at a loss for what could have happened.

Maybe the crystal didn't spawn properly when the cave block was destroyed, or the cave block became immune somehow? But presently, I don't think there's enough information to fix this nor are there any opportunities to gather new information.
I'm also experiencing this problem and i've retried the level about three or four times. Mine is very similar to his as I can't find the ancient crystal anywhere and the mission counts as failed? Could you perhaps take a look and see if this is a bug?

Seed is: 26098-0-3-cavern_archaeologist_story1

Thanks.
Vaelic Jan 26, 2017 @ 7:14am 
I originally thought some of the crystals weren't spawning for me, but what I wasn't realizing was that they come from destroying little mounds of dirt that have small "sparkles" around it that are subtle.

Previously, I had just been getting lucky hitting one or two by accident on my run through and assumed the last one(s) didn't spawn when I didn't actually know what to look for. Maybe this helps? :)
Fulgent Jan 26, 2017 @ 8:58am 
Originally posted by Vaelic:
I originally thought some of the crystals weren't spawning for me, but what I wasn't realizing was that they come from destroying little mounds of dirt that have small "sparkles" around it that are subtle.

Previously, I had just been getting lucky hitting one or two by accident on my run through and assumed the last one(s) didn't spawn when I didn't actually know what to look for. Maybe this helps? :)


I tried it again and couldn't see any. I collected 3 on my first go but this is my fifth go and I still can't find ancient crystal.
Last edited by Fulgent; Jan 26, 2017 @ 8:59am
Laddo D  [developer] Jan 28, 2017 @ 9:22am 
I'm afraid I'm still at a loss for what could be happening here, the seed 26098-0-3-cavern_archaeologist_story1 is working properly as far as I can tell.

I do have some questions that might help me figure this out:

1)Did either the power crystal or the mystic crystal spawn twice?

2)Does anybody remember what their build was when this occured?

I'm hoping this might shed some light on what's going on.
Fulgent Jan 28, 2017 @ 9:50am 
Originally posted by Laddo D:
I'm afraid I'm still at a loss for what could be happening here, the seed 26098-0-3-cavern_archaeologist_story1 is working properly as far as I can tell.

I do have some questions that might help me figure this out:

1)Did either the power crystal or the mystic crystal spawn twice?

2)Does anybody remember what their build was when this occured?

I'm hoping this might shed some light on what's going on.
Not that I'm aware of and the most recent build.
Laddo D  [developer] Jan 28, 2017 @ 10:07am 
Sorry, by build I meant what wand/spells/robe you were using.
Fulgent Jan 28, 2017 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Laddo D:
Sorry, by build I meant what wand/spells/robe you were using.
Oh sorry. Wand : fire fire boomerang prism
spell ice ice thing that makes it a beam and rift crystal
2nd spell philopherstone philopherstone ninja sword and ninja sword
robe lightning seafoam ectoplasm and necrom nicom
Laddo D  [developer] Jan 29, 2017 @ 11:29am 
I tried that build and it didn't interfere with anything. In fact it should make the mission much easier (especially that necronomicon on the robe). I'm still not sure what could be causing this.

Is this still happening? If so we might be able to glean something from the error log.

Go to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Magicmaker\assets\data" and open the file "GLOBAL" in notepad. Find the line:

FALSE ;log all system and error messages

and change it to:

TRUE ;log all system and error messages

Then try to complete the mission again. It will generate a file called "error_log.txt" in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Magicmaker\". Paste the contents here or email them to tastystewdios AT gmail DOT com, whichever is most convenient.
Fulgent Jan 29, 2017 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Laddo D:
I tried that build and it didn't interfere with anything. In fact it should make the mission much easier (especially that necronomicon on the robe). I'm still not sure what could be causing this.

Is this still happening? If so we might be able to glean something from the error log.

Go to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Magicmaker\assets\data" and open the file "GLOBAL" in notepad. Find the line:

FALSE ;log all system and error messages

and change it to:

TRUE ;log all system and error messages

Then try to complete the mission again. It will generate a file called "error_log.txt" in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Magicmaker\". Paste the contents here or email them to tastystewdios AT gmail DOT com, whichever is most convenient.
I actually tried it a 8th time and it weirdly just worked. (Finally).

But thanks for the help.
Laddo D  [developer] Jan 30, 2017 @ 8:27am 
Well, I'm glad it finally worked but it would have been nice to figure out what's causing this. It's a really slippery bug!
Өchpochmak Apr 24, 2023 @ 8:22pm 
That is an old discussion. I have also failed to find 2 out of 4 crystals, and now I managed to find all 4 , when 1 is supposed to be missing? Mission seems strange.
Өchpochmak Apr 24, 2023 @ 8:23pm 
Good game non the less
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