Convoy
Terkala Apr 24, 2015 @ 8:22am
Lucky Peacock
First, some stats:

I dumped ~300 scrap on the $1 slots, and made a little more money than I lost.

Then I dumped ~500 scrap on the $10 slots, and won exactly three times the entire time (and even then I only won the amount I put in, never a net-positive win).

I was trying to chase the "jackpot" result for the achievement. Is that result only possible at the $100 slots? Also, did I just get really unlucky on the 10 slots, or do they simply not payout like the $1 slots do?
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HitmanN Apr 24, 2015 @ 8:24am 
1 scrap slotmachine is OP, pretty much. ;p There's a thread about it already here... somewhere.
Last edited by HitmanN; Apr 24, 2015 @ 8:25am
Scream Apr 24, 2015 @ 8:43am 
You can get the jackpot achievement from 1 scrap.

I dropped nearly 2000 scrap into the 100 slot and didn't win a thing. :(
Sleffie Apr 24, 2015 @ 9:50am 
All slot machines should have the same odds... they've been nerfed repeatedly, so I'm not sure if they are still as OP as before.

From what I could see when dumping the all my scrap in the $1, it seemed fine... It wasn't a guaranteed time-sink to get infinite money... for me.
Terkala Apr 24, 2015 @ 10:50am 
It's certainly possible that I lost 50 times in a row on $10 slots. It's just very unlikely (especially considering I never went more than 40 pulls on the $1 slots without a win). I was hopeing to get more stats from the community.
P4p3Rc1iP  [developer] Apr 24, 2015 @ 11:47am 
IIRC the chances of winning in the slot machine are something along these lines: 1: jackpot, 100: double bet, 300: bet, 1600: nothing

Sleffie has the exact numbers
Scream Apr 24, 2015 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by P4p3Rc1iP:
IIRC the chances of winning in the slot machine are something along these lines: 1: jackpot, 100: double bet, 300: bet, 1600: nothing

Sleffie has the exact numbers

So if we're being shorted, we should take it out on Sleffie?
Got it! ;)
Terkala Apr 24, 2015 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by P4p3Rc1iP:
IIRC the chances of winning in the slot machine are something along these lines: 1: jackpot, 100: double bet, 300: bet, 1600: nothing

Sleffie has the exact numbers

Either I'm literally the luckiest person to ever live, or those figures are wrong. I consistently hit a $20 or $50 reward on a on the $1 slots. Enough that at the end of 300 bets I broke even. That would be statistically unlikely (in the range of "no human should ever experience this luck").
Last edited by Terkala; Apr 24, 2015 @ 4:46pm
donbo69 Apr 25, 2015 @ 6:31am 
I got the jackpot on the $1 slots, couldn;;t tell you how much I pumped in.
Wheel of fortune is a blast , I'm trying to stock up on ballistic weapons for the low
tech achievemnt and it's helped a bit.
Conan, Cimmerian Apr 25, 2015 @ 7:11am 
first and so far only spin on the wheel won me the luckmeister ^^
Arxos Apr 25, 2015 @ 3:12pm 
I made a script because I was too lazy to spam click. I left it on $1 slot machines for about 15 minutes while I went AFK and came back to ~24k scrap, with an initial amount of ~150.
In the past 3 days I've done this about 4 times and ended up with infinite scrap. Only once did I actually run out of money, despite starting at ~110, which I believe was just bad luck (it was the most recent time though, so it might have been patched? though I didn't see anything to indicate that).

When I left it at $10 it would usually even out, teethering towards a loss. When I left it at $100 I would very rapidly lose money. The Wheel of Fortune is a loss on average, though not that significantly, and it is evened out by the item/vehicle rewards anyway. I didn't test the roulette extensively, but it seems like a loss.

Anyway, it seems to me that $1 slot machine is rigged.

I personally think the casino should be redesigned rather than rebalanced, though.
If you make the casino a loss on average (realistic) then a number-based person such as me will simply never touch it. I don't touch unfavourable odds, simple as that.
If you make the casino a profit on average (fun) people will exploit the fact that there's no stop to it to get infinite scrap.
If you make it neither a loss nor a gain then I guess it all comes down to how lucky people are feeling. I personally still wouldn't touch it at all, though.

Instead, I would prefer to see the minimum bet amounts go up, so that people are risking a sizeable sum ($50 at least, IMO) but make it a profit on average so there is a proper incentive. If you lose, your crew drags you out before you lose everything. If you win, you leave before you throw it away again.

Perhaps make it so you can visit each part of the casino only once though, because if only a single option is allowed I think the majority would always go for the Wheel of Fortune for the item/vehicle reward. The other options are currently really just there to get infinite money for then getting everything you need from the Wheel of Fortune.
Last edited by Arxos; Apr 25, 2015 @ 3:16pm
DocRask Apr 25, 2015 @ 3:20pm 
I'm lucky in ever other part of this game, except for the Lucky Peacock jackpot.

I'm ok with that.
Rodbatt Jan 11, 2017 @ 6:18pm 
Can the lucky Peacock appear more than once in one playthrough?
I already found it but had no bolts to play.
Terkala Jan 11, 2017 @ 9:19pm 
I think all "location" events like this are unique per playthrough.
Rodbatt Jan 12, 2017 @ 4:40am 
Well I kept playing and did find it again but in a different way.
The first time was on a radio signal, the second time I got a map showing it's location after defeating a band of raiders or privateers not sure which one.
At that time I had about 1000 bolts, I spent it all and no jackpot. Is there some trick to it?
Rodbatt Jan 12, 2017 @ 9:14am 
Finally got the jackpot. Don't know if it has any relevance but I won in the Lucky Peacock and as soon as I stepped in the bouncer charged me 50 bolts. Managed to get 3 casinos in a single run.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840708621
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840708481
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=840708526
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