other world not working? (spoilers)

[YukoValis]

I might be missing something. From what I can see there is a normal world, mirror world (where it looks like evening) and dreamworld were walls don't exist.

When I go into the starting area it is the mirror world. but I don't know how to get there in the main land. I was sleep and switch between the dream and normal just fine, but I can't seem to find my way into the mirror one.

[Draknek]

Hi, I'm not entirely sure what you are and aren't able to work out, but here's a quick summary:

After making all the snowmen, the gate at the entrance will open again.
Going through that gate will take you from the normal world to the mirror world.
Sitting on the bench and falling asleep will take you from the mirror world to the dream world.
Making a snowman in the dream world will unlock the rest of the mirror world.

[YukoValis]

I see two gates open. The bottom left which brings me to the mirror world of just the starting area. Then there is the gate in the top right. That one does end credits, and after it jumps me to the dreamworld. If I sleep in the dreamworld I go to the normal world. I can't seem to get to the mirror world for the main area.

[Draknek]

You need to fall asleep in the mirror world of the starting area, and then when you've solved a puzzle the rest of the mirror world will be unlocked.

To fall asleep, you sit on a bench and then press the same direction again to go from sitting to sleeping.

[YukoValis]

ah ok I get it. I think it was because I was using the door, when I should have just ran over and slept on another bench outside of the starting area. that brought the mirror world over. Thank you.

[The Alpha and Omega]

Originally posted by Draknek:

Hi, I'm not entirely sure what you are and aren't able to work out, but here's a quick summary:

After making all the snowmen, the gate at the entrance will open again.
Going through that gate will take you from the normal world to the mirror world.
Sitting on the bench and falling asleep will take you from the mirror world to the dream world.
Making a snowman in the dream world will unlock the rest of the mirror world.

Were there any clues in the game for the player to do all this or was it meant to be obscure? I created all the snowmen and walked through the north gate and entered the dream world and thought "The End?" meant the devs would be making a sequel and the dream world was just a preview of the layout for the next game.

I was about to uninstall the game until I checked the forums to see people talking about "mirror world", "dream world", and "build the snowmen closer together". I also didn't know about sleeping on the bench until reading the forums.

[Draknek]

It was meant to be somewhat obscure, but ended up being more so than is ideal. Originally it didn't even show you the preview of the dream world after the first ending! We patched that in as a way to hint its existence - if you explore the dream world it has a statue that'll tell you "0%" and the mysterious archway at the location of the entrance gate.

I probably wouldn't design it this way if I was releasing it today, but I'm not sure how I'd hint it better without significantly changing the game as-is.

[The Alpha and Omega]

I'm still playing and enjoy the main game. Nice sokoban puzzles with a brilliant mechanic! But I'm finding it a little confusing to navigate these other worlds and understanding their relationship (a mirror world, a dream world with snowmen, and a dream world without snowmen), when maybe just 1 other world would've been sufficient. Maybe it's one of those "It'll all make sense at the end" type of things.

[Vardis]

Originally posted by Draknek:

It was meant to be somewhat obscure, but ended up being more so than is ideal. Originally it didn't even show you the preview of the dream world after the first ending! We patched that in as a way to hint its existence - if you explore the dream world it has a statue that'll tell you "0%" and the mysterious archway at the location of the entrance gate.

I probably wouldn't design it this way if I was releasing it today, but I'm not sure how I'd hint it better without significantly changing the game as-is.

Dream butterflies guiding the way? :)

[Draknek]

Oh, that's a nice idea!