Upgrading supplier relatios?

[Grungler Actual]

Has anyone figured out, is upgrading your "relationship" with a supplier (dead drops -> meeting -> delivery available) tied to how many times you've ordered from them, how many items you've bought from them, or how much money you've spent with them? Or some other metric entirely?

[ThePandaKing]

I'm pretty sure it's based on paying off your debts with them.

[Paranoia_Inc]

So far is only dead drop based and I guess how quickly you pay off the debt. Meetups and deliveries have no effect.

[Tanyon]

there is nothing to figure out.. the more times you order from them and pay off your debt the higher eventually your max increases and they will ask for a met up.

I think I did 6 orders already for pseudo and I unlocked the purple variant, I assume within the next 5 orders I can do a meetup.

Does someone out there know your EXACT answer? Yes I'm sure they do but just buy the max you can and pay them off quickly and you will get there.

[Stray Dawg]

Yeah it goes up once you pay your debts off. You just gotta order and pay until you get the bar in the green.

[roboticaust]

It's 100% paying off debt. Meet ups do not increase things. Once you reach max you gain access to delivery for the supplier. I didn't bother to count the exact amount of debt paid off for each supplier, so no clue. But it wasn't that many dead drops tbf. Albert was probably the worst to do because of the limitation of amount of debt you can have with him (as in you can't do big orders, only a few seeds at a time and nowhere near enough wiggle room to max purchase 10). I unlocked meet up early enough because you are kinda forced to do dead drops with him at the beginning of the game. But getting deliveries required quite a lot of 4am dead drops back to back. The other two were very quick.

If memory serves, pseudo in particular was 40 low quality to get medium, 60 medium to get high+meetups, then something small like 30 highs to get delivery. Coke was much much less because of the bigger price tag and larger debt allowance. I recall getting meetups super quick... after maybe 2 maxed dead drops, then maybe 3 more after that point to get deliveries.

[RequiemsRose]

Im not sure which factors play MOST into dealer relations, but the credit for it seems to be given when paying the debt. I would have to start a few more games and experiment with orders like 1 each time vs max each time (that part i already got data for) with immediate pay (i literally order while standing at their payment dead drop, pay immediately after before i even have the drop). Either way, it is a "itll happen eventually" type of situation because you will continue to need their services....the only issue i had was balancing exactly how many [current quality available] psuedo i should bother stocking up on before reaching the next tier up.

[roboticaust]

Originally posted by RequiemsRose:

Im not sure which factors play MOST into dealer relations, but the credit for it seems to be given when paying the debt. I would have to start a few more games and experiment with orders like 1 each time vs max each time (that part i already got data for) with immediate pay (i literally order while standing at their payment dead drop, pay immediately after before i even have the drop). Either way, it is a "itll happen eventually" type of situation because you will continue to need their services....the only issue i had was balancing exactly how many [current quality available] psuedo i should bother stocking up on before reaching the next tier up.

You do know you can just slap a boatload of cash into their bin and not keep poking it, right?

If you are grinding for deliveries doing back to back dead drops, it's truthfully better to just fill their debt bin with cash and just keep spam ordering until the deed is done, then grab up the remaining cash afterwards.

[RequiemsRose]

Originally posted by roboticaust:

Originally posted by RequiemsRose:

Im not sure which factors play MOST into dealer relations, but the credit for it seems to be given when paying the debt. I would have to start a few more games and experiment with orders like 1 each time vs max each time (that part i already got data for) with immediate pay (i literally order while standing at their payment dead drop, pay immediately after before i even have the drop). Either way, it is a "itll happen eventually" type of situation because you will continue to need their services....the only issue i had was balancing exactly how many [current quality available] psuedo i should bother stocking up on before reaching the next tier up.

You do know you can just slap a boatload of cash into their bin and not keep poking it, right?

If you are grinding for deliveries doing back to back dead drops, it's truthfully better to just fill their debt bin with cash and just keep spam ordering until the deed is done, then grab up the remaining cash afterwards.

I do, but i also found out i can do stuff like dead drops after 4am, plus door to door sales for additional cash, so i just had one very long night of meth sales in this particular playthrough lol. Which also meant i didnt have a lot of actual startup cash to stuff into the box after buying the meth setup.

[roboticaust]

Fair enough. Sounded like you were doing it the painful way in your first post. But yeah, the 4am dead drop spam is how I went about it and what I mentioned originally as well. It doesn't take terribly long but I could see it being annoying to do if you don't have other 4am chores to deal with like supplying the barn and docks with delivery reups or hoofing around slinging extra product at peoples doorsteps.

The original question I replied to was how much repaid debt and on that I do not know precisely. But it isn't too terrible to do. A few late night dead drops and all good. And realistically around the time you are doing big deliveries at 4am nightly because of automation, you already have plenty of distractions to make it not too terrible to bonk out at the same time.