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DivineTimes are Schedule I

11 apr. la 17:33

This game's "Fun" is an Illusion

I will honestly say this game scratched my itch for being productive in developing an efficient logistics pipeline, but it very quickly turns into a chore walking simulator. All aspects of actual game play are so lukewarm and lacking any varied situations that could bring any meaning. The map is extremely small, and when you get to the point of having multiple employees and more than two locations, the game will be a stuttering mess of hitches.

Yeah, it's kinda fun making weird drugs that have strange side effects, but that novelty quickly dies off. And I know this opinion isn't going to be received well, because the grand majority of players on hear are hedonistic in nature, but this game downright promotes drug use and the solicitation of them.

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Mr. Rubber Ducky 11 apr. la 18:38

post tl;dr: brain tricks you into thinking.

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DivineTimes are Schedule I

11 apr. la 18:48

Postat inițial de Echoz:
sounds like every successful game. fun only keeps you around for that long, but addictive mechanics keep people around for years. only extraordinarily fun games become successful above their expectations without addictive and time consuming mechanics

So you're basically saying the game isn't fun, it's just engineered to waste your time until your brain mistakes sunk cost for enjoyment? Sounds like a win for the devs and a loss for anyone with self-respect. There's no endgame, no reward, just the same repetitive garbage loop dressed up in FOMO and fake progression. But sure, keep calling that "successful." Cults are technically good at retention too.

#17

SubTonic

11 apr. la 18:52

Why would you expect an endgame from a game that literally isn't finished? It just got up and took its first steps, and they're damn impressive. If 1-2 years from now it's still an unfinished mess, then I would start to agree with you.

#18

Echoz

11 apr. la 18:57

Postat inițial de DivineTimes:
Postat inițial de Echoz:
sounds like every successful game. fun only keeps you around for that long, but addictive mechanics keep people around for years. only extraordinarily fun games become successful above their expectations without addictive and time consuming mechanics

So you're basically saying the game isn't fun, it's just engineered to waste your time until your brain mistakes sunk cost for enjoyment? Sounds like a win for the devs and a loss for anyone with self-respect. There's no endgame, no reward, just the same repetitive garbage loop dressed up in FOMO and fake progression. But sure, keep calling that "successful." Cults are technically good at retention too.

im not really saying that, no. but we have to be a little bit real here, playing video games is a substitute for achievement and progression in real life. it can completely consume your life if you have the opportunity to let it. you can also use it as an entertaining way to relax and experience something interesting. a lot of the fun from video games comes from stimulating the same parts of your brain that would be stimulated if you got a promotion, did well at your job, socialized with others, etc. you could argue it's evil and designed to destroy you, but if you do i really don't think you should be on steam, for your own good. unless you're a professional esports player or an online entertainer exactly zero of your achievements in games were "rewarded" in any meaningful way whatsoever.

#19

MUGWUMP

11 apr. la 18:58

There's no real reward for a lot of the tedium of some mixing and some of the drugs all together.

The game needs a good story and solid like-able memorable characters.

#20

DivineTimes are Schedule I

11 apr. la 19:06

Postat inițial de Echoz:
Postat inițial de DivineTimes:

So you're basically saying the game isn't fun, it's just engineered to waste your time until your brain mistakes sunk cost for enjoyment? Sounds like a win for the devs and a loss for anyone with self-respect. There's no endgame, no reward, just the same repetitive garbage loop dressed up in FOMO and fake progression. But sure, keep calling that "successful." Cults are technically good at retention too.

im not really saying that, no. but we have to be a little bit real here, playing video games is a substitute for achievement and progression in real life. it can completely consume your life if you have the opportunity to let it. you can also use it as an entertaining way to relax and experience something interesting. a lot of the fun from video games comes from stimulating the same parts of your brain that would be stimulated if you got a promotion, did well at your job, socialized with others, etc. you could argue it's evil and designed to destroy you, but if you do i really don't think you should be on steam, for your own good. unless you're a professional esports player or an online entertainer exactly zero of your achievements in games were "rewarded" in any meaningful way whatsoever.

as if acknowledging the emptiness somehow redeems it. You’re basically saying, “yeah, it’s hollow, but if we all just pretend hard enough, maybe it’s fine.” That’s not being real, that’s coping.

If a game’s primary selling point is that it tricks your brain into feeling like you’ve done something meaningful, then it’s not entertainment, it’s psychological junk food. Just because you can use a game to unwind doesn’t excuse it being an endless loop of empty grind padded with predatory mechanics. That’s like defending a slot machine because it helps you de-stress.

#21

Kozzy

11 apr. la 19:08

Nope, 30 hours in and still having a blast. Played 24 hours solo had good fun and now played 6 hours solo and having a blast with my buddy.

#22

Echoz

11 apr. la 19:12

Postat inițial de DivineTimes:
Postat inițial de Echoz:

im not really saying that, no. but we have to be a little bit real here, playing video games is a substitute for achievement and progression in real life. it can completely consume your life if you have the opportunity to let it. you can also use it as an entertaining way to relax and experience something interesting. a lot of the fun from video games comes from stimulating the same parts of your brain that would be stimulated if you got a promotion, did well at your job, socialized with others, etc. you could argue it's evil and designed to destroy you, but if you do i really don't think you should be on steam, for your own good. unless you're a professional esports player or an online entertainer exactly zero of your achievements in games were "rewarded" in any meaningful way whatsoever.

as if acknowledging the emptiness somehow redeems it. You’re basically saying, “yeah, it’s hollow, but if we all just pretend hard enough, maybe it’s fine.” That’s not being real, that’s coping.

If a game’s primary selling point is that it tricks your brain into feeling like you’ve done something meaningful, then it’s not entertainment, it’s psychological junk food. Just because you can use a game to unwind doesn’t excuse it being an endless loop of empty grind padded with predatory mechanics. That’s like defending a slot machine because it helps you de-stress.

the fact you think other games don't trick you just means you're a fool. name one game you've played for a long time that's not just jerking off your brain but really enriched your life. if you have anything i bet it's not a game that's recently seen massive success.

#23

Sugarwolf

11 apr. la 19:15

I mean, you're not wrong but that's just kind of how these games are. You have a couple hundred hours in farming simulator, it's got the same problem.

Games like this are about mastering the system, which is kind of the purest form of a game. Problem is once you've done that, it doesn't have much to offer in terms of entertainment.

#24

KellyR

11 apr. la 19:16

All fun is an illusion since fun is a subjective quality.

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Mr. Rubber Ducky 11 apr. la 19:23

Nothing is infinite in life, eventually we'll figure out something and then just move on to another thing. Almost every game has a meta that once you figure out, makes the game boring. That's why you set your own goals and do your own thing until you eventually move on to something else.

It can be game's fault but essentially it just boils down to how some of us are. We minmax everything, figure out every single detail until there's nothing left to explore.

#26

Naked Spoon are Schedule I

11 apr. la 19:26

Old man yells at cloud energy.

#27

QtCat

11 apr. la 19:29

the things you're complaining about is already being worked on, there will be more content and such we'd have to deal with, like rival gangs and potential raids on your properties. You have to remember that this game JUST dropped and its new, the content almost feels like a completed game because its so fun, but its not a completed game, it just released dude.

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