Fps drops once getting further in game

[Rbannister02]

Ive spent 25 hours on this game so far n noticed the further i get the fps drops every now n then. Is this normal and happening with everyone else? Im even doing the ‘cleartrash’ cheat as it helps a little bit. My pc specs are ‘rtx 4060, i5 12400f, 16gb ram’.

[Ninefinger]

I meant I only suggest the three for starters but also I gave you 10 more in case you can handle the first three, for eg. disabling core parking is difficult thing to understand for some at first

[Rbannister02]

Unrealtairo a écrit :

Rbannister02 a écrit :

Mate im not being funny you sound like a pc expert but i aint doing none of that are you crazy😂😂no ones ever mentioned this in any discussion in any game, aint gonna start changing stuff i dont no what im doing just cuz 1 person says.

Ya I wouldn't do all that, it doesn't even help that much anyway. Better to just use Process lasso and one click & done then all that.

Besides that the problem is the game, You can disable vsync to fix frame "pacing" but not the FPS. FPS will be bad no matter what (Compared to your normal) once you start hiring employees. Trash has very little to do with it (But helps... not much)

Thanks for the short n simple explanation mate. Sorry for the spam the other wouldnt send apparently.

[kir-kanos]

First problem is you bought your computer from some company, then called help spam.
You don't want help you want it too just work.

[Rbannister02]

kir-kanos a écrit :

First problem is you bought your computer from some company, then called help spam.
You don't want help you want it too just work.

??

[BoxingBud]

I'm on a potato with high graphic settings, (not ultra) and I full on automated the barn for weed (including cleaners so no trash buildup) and it makes 10-12 bricks a day (could fit in one more bed, one more herbalist/whatever they're called, and 8 more growth related items and another shelf for supplies so even more)

My bungalow is full on 10+ "crystal" bricks a day (I adulterate them for affects in 20 bulk mixer runs, then reconstitute the brick but if I need quick cash/product I give the bricks to my traffickers clean)

My warehouse is my full on "booger sugar" Operation. I am running into bugs with my chemists not using 4 cauldrons I set up, but I reduced it to 2 and focused on stacking gold quality leaves in them. I still need two chemists because 5 related stations but I gave one three stations and the other two)

My warehouse operation has been "slow going" game mechanics wise but performatively everything been fine still.

[Rbannister02]

BoxingBud a écrit :

I'm on a potato with high graphic settings, (not ultra) and I full on automated the barn for weed (including cleaners so no trash buildup) and it makes 10-12 bricks a day (could fit in one more bed, one more herbalist/whatever they're called, and 8 more growth related items and another shelf for supplies so even more)

My bungalow is full on 10+ "crystal" bricks a day (I adulterate them for affects in 20 bulk mixer runs, then reconstitute the brick but if I need quick cash/product I give the bricks to my traffickers clean)

My warehouse is my full on "booger sugar" Operation. I am running into bugs with my chemists not using 4 cauldrons I set up, but I reduced it to 2 and focused on stacking gold quality leaves in them. I still need two chemists because 5 related stations but I gave one three stations and the other two)

My warehouse operation has been "slow going" game mechanics wise but performatively everything been fine still.

How many hours you into the game?

[Ninefinger]

I am 100 hours into it myself with both the barn and the warehouse running 8 chain mixes fully automated packing bricks of coke for me while the bungalow is fully automated pumping gout premium weed with no mix, two packagers packing it into bags and I have about 2 mil now and its been smooth as butter the entire time but i keep all the floors clean with cleaners and make sure no employees are bugged out ever and I skate around at max speed on golden skate board flying around super fast and no problem at all so far.

[Rbannister02]

Ninefinger a écrit :

I am 100 hours into it myself with both the barn and the warehouse running 8 chain mixes fully automated packing bricks of coke for me while the bungalow is fully automated pumping gout premium weed with no mix, two packagers packing it into bags and I have about 2 mil now and its been smooth as butter the entire time but i keep all the floors clean with cleaners and make sure no employees are bugged out ever and I skate around at max speed on golden skate board flying around super fast and no problem at all so far.

Would you still recommend hiring a cleaner even if i use the ‘cleartrash’ cheat or is there no point?

[angelsenvy228]

Rbannister02 a écrit :

Ninefinger a écrit :

Thats why I gave you the documentation so you can learn how your machine works and so you have more agency over problems if you have more control on your end if you dont thats fine too but its not hard to learn those few things I suggested, and try not to think it is.

Mate it wasnt a few things, u sent me a book😂😂thanks for your help but ill pass like i said if i hear this suggestion more instead just 1 person then i will follow steps but like i said ive never seen everything youve just explained to me in any discussion in any game. Im in regular contact with the pc company who i bought my pc off n they’ve never mentioned anything like that to me.

Don't buy an intel CPU next time and you won't really have to worry about such steps. e cores "efficiency cores" are a garbage design in the more recent intel cpu lines. But Ryzen has been the best performing cpu for awhile now, AMD is on top baby. But yes, what he explained are real steps people often have to do when having issues with intel cpus. Whether that is what is causing your issue or not I can't say. Also no if you are clearing trash with the command there is no point in a cleaner, if you clear all the trash with the command and you still have fps problems then trash is not your main issue.

16gb is also getting to be a lowish amount of RAM these days. check your hardware monitors while the game is running and see what is capping out, cpu, memory, gpu, it will help you narrow down your issue.

[Ninefinger]

Rbannister02 a écrit :

Ninefinger a écrit :

I am 100 hours into it myself with both the barn and the warehouse running 8 chain mixes fully automated packing bricks of coke for me while the bungalow is fully automated pumping gout premium weed with no mix, two packagers packing it into bags and I have about 2 mil now and its been smooth as butter the entire time but i keep all the floors clean with cleaners and make sure no employees are bugged out ever and I skate around at max speed on golden skate board flying around super fast and no problem at all so far.

Would you still recommend hiring a cleaner even if i use the ‘cleartrash’ cheat or is there no point?

Yes absolutly hire a cleaner I have never had to rely on a cleartrash command to do it and I dont have a single item of trash at any of my facilities with jsut one trash can around 8 plants is all you need and this is the best configuration for it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459560986

the other stuff doesnt generate trash so its all you need per building or per 8 plants 1 cleaner might be able to handle up to 3 cans but you should make sure not to overlap the trash can areas, I think that can bug him out im not sure though.

If you keep it clean you wont have to wait till it builds up to clean it all and wont ever get anything building to slow it down ever.

[Rbannister02]

angelsenvy228 a écrit :

Rbannister02 a écrit :

Mate it wasnt a few things, u sent me a book😂😂thanks for your help but ill pass like i said if i hear this suggestion more instead just 1 person then i will follow steps but like i said ive never seen everything youve just explained to me in any discussion in any game. Im in regular contact with the pc company who i bought my pc off n they’ve never mentioned anything like that to me.

Don't buy an intel CPU next time and you won't really have to worry about such steps. e cores "efficiency cores" are a garbage design in the more recent intel cpu lines. But Ryzen has been the best performing cpu for awhile now, AMD is on top baby. But yes, what he explained are real steps people often have to do when having issues with intel cpus. Whether that is what is causing your issue or not I can't say. Also no if you are clearing trash with the command there is no point in a cleaner, if you clear all the trash with the command and you still have fps problems then trash is not your main issue.

16gb is also getting to be a lowish amount of RAM these days. check your hardware monitors while the game is running and see what is capping out, cpu, memory, gpu, it will help you narrow down your issue.

Ive hit no more than 11gb on the game n trust me its got nothing to do with my pc. The game is just badly optimised

[Echoz]

Rbannister02 a écrit :

Echoz a écrit :

Mine got more or less unbearable too, and the NPC workers are constantly getting stuck and leaving objects impossible to interact with, which they didn't seem to do before. It's unfortunately not really playable for me anymore.

How many hours have you got too for it to make it unplayable?

about 35, but with a friend so progressing faster than i would alone

[BigChinJinn]

Ninefinger a écrit :

I suggest that you Disable Hyper-Threading, Disable E-Cores and Optionally cap P-core max ratio to 53 or 55 depending on your CPU

also here is more inforamtion that I keep as to not forget to go through when doing a fresh install of windows

Win 10 Gaming Tweaks
https://www.reddit.com/r/killerinstinct/comments/4fcdhy/an_excellent_guide_to_optimizing_your_windows_10/
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812

Disable Nagle’s algorithm you need to find your IP with IPconfig then go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces{NIC-id} For the {NIC-id}, look for the one with your IP address listed. Under this {NIC-id} key, create the following DWORD value:
TcpAckFrequency=1 and set it to 1 to disable “nagling” for gaming.
TCPNoDelay=1 and set it also to 1 to disable “nagling”
TcpDelAckTicks=0 and set it to 0

Disable Dynamic Tick bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes

bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
to disable High Precision Timer in Windows - REBOOT pc after!
check disable hpet High Precision event Timer Device manager / System Devices / High Precision event Timer set to disable

Disable core parking
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\93b8b6dc-0698-4d1c-9ee4-0644e900c85d
set value max to 0
Double click on the "Attributes" value and change it to "0"

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
"NetworkThrottlingIndex"=dword:ffffffff (DWORD, default: 10, recommended: 10 for media sharing, ffffffff for gaming and max throughput, valid range: 1 through 70 decimal or ffffffff to completely disable throttling)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
"SystemResponsiveness"=dword:00000000 (default: 20, recommended: decimal 10 for general applications, 0 for pure gaming/streaming)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
LargeSystemCache=0 (DWORD, default value: 0, recommended value: 1 for LAN throughput, 0 for gaming)
A value of zero establishes a cache of ~8 MB, a value of 1 allows the cache to expand up to the amount of physical memory minus 4 MB, as necessary.


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\Games

“GPU Priority” change its values to 8 for gaming.

“Priority” set to 6 for gaming.

"Affinity"=dword:00000000 (DWORD, default: 0, recommended: 0. Both 0x00 and 0xFFFFFFFF indicate that processor affinity is not used)

"Background Only"="False" (REG_SZ, default: "False", recommended: "False", possible values are True or False). Indicates whether this is a background task.

"Clock Rate"=dword:00002710 (DWORD, default: 2710, recommended: 2710). The maximum guaranteed clock rate the system uses if a thread joins disk task, in 100-nanosecond intervals.

"GPU Priority"=dword:00000008 (DWORD, default: 2, recommended: 8. range: 0-31). The GPU priority. Not used in Windows XP and 2003.

"Priority"=dword:00000002 (DWORD, default: 2, recommended: leave alone if using "Scheduling Category" below, set to 6 otherwise for gaming, possible values are 1-8). The task priority, ranging from 1(low) to 8(high). Note for tasks with Scheduling Category of "High", this value is always treated as 2.

"Scheduling Category"="High" (REG_SZ, default: "Medium", recommended: "High". possible values: Low, Medium, High)

"SFIO Priority"="High" (REG_SZ, default: "Normal", recommended: "High") The scheduled I/O priority, possible values are Idle, Low, Normal, or High.

netsh int tcp set global rsc=disabled

advanced settings for your windows power plan
Heterogenous thread scheduling policy: Change to "Prefer performant processors"

Disable Game Bar and ENABLE Game Mode, Game Mode is good now.

Disable "Flow Control" and "Interrupt Moderation" in your Network adapter properties

Bro no one is doing this.

[Ninefinger]

BigChinJinn a écrit :

Ninefinger a écrit :

I suggest that you Disable Hyper-Threading, Disable E-Cores and Optionally cap P-core max ratio to 53 or 55 depending on your CPU

also here is more inforamtion that I keep as to not forget to go through when doing a fresh install of windows

Win 10 Gaming Tweaks
https://www.reddit.com/r/killerinstinct/comments/4fcdhy/an_excellent_guide_to_optimizing_your_windows_10/
https://www.speedguide.net/articles/gaming-tweaks-5812

Disable Nagle’s algorithm you need to find your IP with IPconfig then go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces{NIC-id} For the {NIC-id}, look for the one with your IP address listed. Under this {NIC-id} key, create the following DWORD value:
TcpAckFrequency=1 and set it to 1 to disable “nagling” for gaming.
TCPNoDelay=1 and set it also to 1 to disable “nagling”
TcpDelAckTicks=0 and set it to 0

Disable Dynamic Tick bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes

bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock
to disable High Precision Timer in Windows - REBOOT pc after!
check disable hpet High Precision event Timer Device manager / System Devices / High Precision event Timer set to disable

Disable core parking
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\54533251-82be-4824-96c1-47b60b740d00\93b8b6dc-0698-4d1c-9ee4-0644e900c85d
set value max to 0
Double click on the "Attributes" value and change it to "0"

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
"NetworkThrottlingIndex"=dword:ffffffff (DWORD, default: 10, recommended: 10 for media sharing, ffffffff for gaming and max throughput, valid range: 1 through 70 decimal or ffffffff to completely disable throttling)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
"SystemResponsiveness"=dword:00000000 (default: 20, recommended: decimal 10 for general applications, 0 for pure gaming/streaming)

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
LargeSystemCache=0 (DWORD, default value: 0, recommended value: 1 for LAN throughput, 0 for gaming)
A value of zero establishes a cache of ~8 MB, a value of 1 allows the cache to expand up to the amount of physical memory minus 4 MB, as necessary.


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\Games

“GPU Priority” change its values to 8 for gaming.

“Priority” set to 6 for gaming.

"Affinity"=dword:00000000 (DWORD, default: 0, recommended: 0. Both 0x00 and 0xFFFFFFFF indicate that processor affinity is not used)

"Background Only"="False" (REG_SZ, default: "False", recommended: "False", possible values are True or False). Indicates whether this is a background task.

"Clock Rate"=dword:00002710 (DWORD, default: 2710, recommended: 2710). The maximum guaranteed clock rate the system uses if a thread joins disk task, in 100-nanosecond intervals.

"GPU Priority"=dword:00000008 (DWORD, default: 2, recommended: 8. range: 0-31). The GPU priority. Not used in Windows XP and 2003.

"Priority"=dword:00000002 (DWORD, default: 2, recommended: leave alone if using "Scheduling Category" below, set to 6 otherwise for gaming, possible values are 1-8). The task priority, ranging from 1(low) to 8(high). Note for tasks with Scheduling Category of "High", this value is always treated as 2.

"Scheduling Category"="High" (REG_SZ, default: "Medium", recommended: "High". possible values: Low, Medium, High)

"SFIO Priority"="High" (REG_SZ, default: "Normal", recommended: "High") The scheduled I/O priority, possible values are Idle, Low, Normal, or High.

netsh int tcp set global rsc=disabled

advanced settings for your windows power plan
Heterogenous thread scheduling policy: Change to "Prefer performant processors"

Disable Game Bar and ENABLE Game Mode, Game Mode is good now.

Disable "Flow Control" and "Interrupt Moderation" in your Network adapter properties

Bro no one is doing this.

And whos loss is that

[xyonic]

Yep i had a 3080 and i got 32 gigs of ram ddr 5 and r7 9800x3d and upgraded to 5080 and now my frames are freezing randomly dropping to 40 and is unplayable i got 28 hours