Achievement; Indian Dealer

[JenesisDark]

This is 2025, can we call it 'Take-backsies' or something? Indian Giver is a racial term that the Native American community has tried for a very long time to shed, and having something like 'Indian Dealer' is just offering another generation a way to hang on to a tired slang that needs to go back to where it came from

[PvWolf666]

Take Backsies, really? Are you like 10

[Sentient Roomba]

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

Publicado originalmente por Bear:

No it isn't, ts white folk. You feel weird guilt over nothing and are now here telling everyone else to change. Many of us are more mature than to get upset over Indian dealer.
How can anyone think it was ever an insult to the first people.
Oh, btw the community doesn't use Native American, it uses American Indian or The first People. Tell me all the examples of Indians giving and then taking.
Now tell me all the other examples of people giving to them and then taking. I will wait.

It started with Native Americans not understanding the original puritanical settlers differences between gifts and trades. They thought the locals were giving gifts, the locals thought they were trading. Hence 'Indian Giver'; they took back gifts.
Then, you'd hear people use it as slang for someone who took back gifts, which framed Native people as those who took back gifts, despite being a very generous culture. Because once you make _them_ look bad? Very easy to feel better about yourself.

Sound familiar?

I always thought it was about the US "giving" the Natives land (which was theirs first but w/e) and then changing their minds and taking it back when it turned out the land had value. Thereby it wasn't so much derogatory to American Indians as much as what America did to said Indians. You'd know better than I, though.

[Bear]

Publicado originalmente por Sentient Roomba:

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

It started with Native Americans not understanding the original puritanical settlers differences between gifts and trades. They thought the locals were giving gifts, the locals thought they were trading. Hence 'Indian Giver'; they took back gifts.
Then, you'd hear people use it as slang for someone who took back gifts, which framed Native people as those who took back gifts, despite being a very generous culture. Because once you make _them_ look bad? Very easy to feel better about yourself.

Sound familiar?

I always thought it was about the US "giving" the Natives land (which was theirs first but w/e) and then changing their minds and taking it back when it turned out the land had value. Thereby it wasn't so much derogatory to American Indians as much as what America did to said Indians. You'd know better than I, though.

They confused sides there. They are right about misunderstandings between two people. However there is a certain arrogance there. To assume the first people would just give you things for nothing is... yeah, arrogant.
The term is what we make it. They took a lot and didn't give back. Yet we are the ones that get sneered at for taking back assumed gifts. Sorry man, Hey, where's my land btw. I didn't gift that.

[SteeezyP]

Womp Womp

[Walmart Fetus]

Publicado originalmente por Onba:

♥♥♥♥ off white savior. No one Native American has complained. Your just inventing problems so you can come to the rescue a 'lowly' people without actually putting in any effort.

Your no different than those that colonized Africa, expect your more lazy.

i did and hap plenty of ppl say "im mad bc im not earning money from the casino" and "your not rlly native" etc etc.

[Walmart Fetus]

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

Publicado originalmente por M41NFR4M3:

Lol a Asmongold hate watcher

Honestly? Nope, not even sure what the guy does. Just noticed achievements, wanted to see what I didn't have. Was surprised.

Gg on the assumption there bud

they tried to burn me at the stake bc me a native american said it was low hanging fruit humor and if your buying it just to spite "wokeness" your a dork.

[Walmart Fetus]

Publicado originalmente por Bear:

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

This is 2025, can we call it 'Take-backsies' or something? Indian Giver is a racial term that the Native American community has tried for a very long time to shed, and having something like 'Indian Dealer' is just offering another generation a way to hang on to a tired slang that needs to go back to where it came from

No it isn't, ts white folk. You feel weird guilt over nothing and are now here telling everyone else to change. Many of us are more mature than to get upset over Indian dealer.
How can anyone think it was ever an insult to the first people.
Oh, btw the community doesn't use Native American, it uses American Indian or The first People. Tell me all the examples of Indians giving and then taking.
Now tell me all the other examples of people giving to them and then taking. I will wait.

you used google for that one huh i say call myself native. thats it so weird how a non native person has the nerve to police what we refer to ourselves as. had we refered to ourself as that you wouldv

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

This is 2025, can we call it 'Take-backsies' or something? Indian Giver is a racial term that the Native American community has tried for a very long time to shed, and having something like 'Indian Dealer' is just offering another generation a way to hang on to a tired slang that needs to go back to where it came from

dont even interact with these basement dwelling losers who stay racist online or try to act like a white savior bc they think we dont call ourselves native. this community is toxic as ♥♥♥♥ and not worth interacting with.

[Walmart Fetus]

Publicado originalmente por SteeezyP:

Womp Womp

says the due with the anime gooner account. no one cares you wanna be edgy it makes you look like a loser XD

[Bear]

Publicado originalmente por Walmart Fetus:

Publicado originalmente por Onba:

♥♥♥♥ off white savior. No one Native American has complained. Your just inventing problems so you can come to the rescue a 'lowly' people without actually putting in any effort.

Your no different than those that colonized Africa, expect your more lazy.

i did and hap plenty of ppl say "im mad bc im not earning money from the casino" and "your not rlly native" etc etc.

Because sadly, that is all it takes when no proof is available to the contrary. many people, including myself (Miwok from central California) Do not care as much because we know who did what, so anyone ignorant talking out their ass on it just sounds silly.
I will not accuse you of lying, nor will I assume this. I will accept your anger over this, and I will apologize that we have a difference of opinion over the phrase.

(Edit) I saw your other response to me. no more peace. Accuse me of using google and lying? Then you whine like a tiny weak willed boy that people are calling you a liar when you claim American Indian heritage? ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pathetic.
You are weak and your blood is weak.

[Trooler]

Literally dc, stay mad.

[uRBAN_Spaceman]

Another copy paste troll post. Reported and blocked.

[Arknor]

Can we change the achieve from "indian dealer" to Krazy Karens.
They are customers who moan about your product even though they would never buy it anyway.

[Drew P Bawls]

Publicado originalmente por JenesisDark:

This is 2025, can we call it 'Take-backsies' or something? Indian Giver is a racial term that the Native American community has tried for a very long time to shed, and having something like 'Indian Dealer' is just offering another generation a way to hang on to a tired slang that needs to go back to where it came from

horrible b8

[Bear]

Publicado originalmente por Arknor:

Can we change the achieve from "indian dealer" to Krazy Karens.
They are customers who moan about your product even though they would never buy it anyway.

That should be a Steam achievement. attached to anyone who does this for any game.