Cast a creature spell with converted mana cost 7 or more by your fourth turn

[Ashcarr]

How is this possible?
Turn 1 - One land, nothing to play
Turn 2 - Two land, play the green X spell for 1 to hopefully hit a land for a total of 3 land
Turn 3 - Four land, play the X spell again for 2 and pray to make it to 6 land
Turn 4 - Seven land, play big fatty

Is this the only way to do it right now? You need some ridiculous luck to ever pull this off. ._.

[Ideal Insomnia]

Ah, I'm not a pro player, but if I remember right, one way to do this is to put a creature directly into play without paying it's mana-cost. Say, you discard that big fatty into graveyard, then raise it from the grave with a spell. That already takes less then 7 mana to do and I'm sure there are more ways.

[Ashcarr]

But doing graveyard shenanigans means you aren't casting the creature itself so it wouldn't trigger the unlock conditions. :(

[Mjollnir49172]

30 lands(no tapped land), all copies of animist's awakaning, a a lot of 1 mana spell, all ramp spells (only 2 other I think), and and the rest in 7 drop and a lot of retries and luck.

I'd tried without animist's awakening, I succeeded turn 5. But it don't seem possible without it.

edit : green/red seems the way to go, lots of 1mana red spells

[Ashcarr]

2 Animist's Awakening, 1 Gaea's Revenge, 57 land. Mulligan until you have all three spells in hand. >.>

[Mjollnir49172]

You can only have 30 lands in the deck, too bad.

[Ashcarr]

Yeah, gross. I just tried that and it was like "Invalid deck". Too bad. :(

[Atomizer]

Im trying this now, and thats pretty much the conclusion I came to as well, shame I only have 1 Animist though :(

[Try that on my Sagat]

T1 land (1)

T2 land Animist 1 hit (3)

T3 land Animist 3 hit (6-7)

T4 land (if on 6) play dude.

[Bazinga]

Originally posted by 元芳:

T1 land (1)
T2 land Animist 1 hit (3)
T3 land Animist 3 hit (6-7)
T4 land (if on 6) play dude.

or

T1 land (1) Fog or another 1 manna instant
T2 land, Telling Time(2)
T3 land, Animist's Awakening hit 2, Animist's Awaking hit 1 (6)
T4 land, 7 cost creature

7 cost creature:
Gaea's Revang (5)(G)(G)
Alhammered, High Arbiter (5)(U)(U)
Axebane Stag (6)(G)

If 30 lands is a limit...

That means deck should be something like
12 x Island
18 x Forest
4 x Axebane Stag
3 x Telling Time
? x Gaea's Revang (1-4)
? x Alhammered, High Arbiter (1-4)
? x Animist's Awakening (2-4)

1 cost instant

4 x Fog

rather less possible but.. opponent needs to start and have (2 manna cost creature) or you start (and he has 1 manna creature) [hint: target his creatures]

3 x Primal Bellow
? x Might of the masses (1-4)

Cards (49-60) / 60

Rest of the hand take some random instant don't care about color, maybe opponent makes you discard them... the "?" is couse I don't know max numer of card you can have.

[RonjaLin]

Originally posted by Ideal Insomnia:

Ah, I'm not a pro player, but if I remember right, one way to do this is to put a creature directly into play without paying it's mana-cost. Say, you discard that big fatty into graveyard, then raise it from the grave with a spell. That already takes less then 7 mana to do and I'm sure there are more ways.

You are supposed to cast the creature spell, not to put the creature into play.

[Mjollnir49172]

There's 7 mana-cost spells too (nissa vision or something like that), it should work too.

But i'll stay on my idea on red-green, the most 1 cost spell possible, the 3 ramp spells in max exemplary, and the rest in 7 drop. 7 7-drop may be too much.

Bonus if you find an aggro adversary to launch tintan's strengh on their 1 drop turn 1.

Edit : bonus for nissa too? probably

[Bazinga]

Originally posted by Mjollnir49172:

There's 7 mana-cost spells too (nissa vision or something like that), it should work too.

But i'll stay on my idea on red-green, the most 1 cost spell possible, the 3 ramp spells in max exemplary, and the rest in 7 drop. 7 7-drop may be too much.

Bonus if you find an aggro adversary to launch tintan's strengh on their 1 drop turn 1.

Edit : bonus for nissa too? probably

Nissana revelation? it's 7 manna cost spell but it's not creature

red-green deck is worst then blue-green

The only ramp spell you can use it's Animist's Awakening there aren't any 2 mana cost ramp spells or i didn't notice them. (or did you mean that there are only 3 Animist's Awakening)

Time telling let's you cycle 3 cards (1 hand 1 top 1 bottom) to find Animist's Awakening

[Atomizer]

Yeah I have gone through the entire collection of cards(including ones I don't yet have), and the only way I see it working is with Animist's, now if we had some of the previous sets, it might be possible in other ways...its likely one achievement I wont be getting for awhile

[Mjollnir49172]

The red would be to activate the spell mastery of animist awakening sooner and more reliabely.
So you can use gatecreeper vine the same turn, so you can keep a starting hand with few lands, or Mwonvuli acid-moss.

It's sure it's not the best ramp in the world, but I find it better than the telling time drawing/crying.

[Bazinga]

Originally posted by Mjollnir49172:

The red would be to activate the spell mastery of animist awakening sooner and more reliabely.
So you can use gatecreeper vine the same turn, so you can keep a starting hand with few lands, or Mwonvuli acid-moss.

It's sure it's not the best ramp in the world, but I find it better than the telling time drawing/crying.

Remamber that you have 30 lands, for sure you will be mana flooded. Gatecreeper makes you draw only 1 land and it's puting it in your hand compare to telling time it's 2 cards remove (hand and bottom) + 1 card move to top.

You won't be able to play Mwonvuli acid-moss the only turn you could play him is turn 3 (in turn 3 you can have max 4 mana) using him will procede you to turn 4 with 6 mana.

Gatecreeper it's not ramp, he is rather mana fixer.