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Supermaori Oct 12, 2016 @ 9:49pm
What is a non land permanent?
I'm new. I thought it means anything on board except mana cards, but there is a spell enchant aura that sticks to non land permannent then the permanent can't move. I used it to a zombie creature, but the next turn the zombie moved completely! it could attack and it could activate its effect too. What is a non land permenent?
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Restless Oct 12, 2016 @ 10:33pm 
Take a screenshot if you need to ask a question, or at least name the exact cards you're talking about in the situation. This will let others more easily help you because as it is now, we have no idea what cards were played so we cannot explain what happened to you.

A permanent is anything that persists the turn on the battlefield. Instants and Sorceries are not permanents, and Emblems are not targettable. Everything else, including lands, artifacts, creatures, and planeswalkers are all considered permanents. It is possible you misread your card or your opponent played something in response. Without knowing the cards involved we cannot really help you here.
ziljin Oct 12, 2016 @ 10:53pm 
I am guessing you are talking about suppression bonds. Creatures being enchanted by suppression bonds can still be tapped to crew vehicles unfortunately. But Suppression bonds can be used against artifacts (including vehicles), enchantments and planeswalkers.
pjfeigel Oct 12, 2016 @ 11:25pm 
Cards, Spells, Permanents.

While in any zone other than the Battlefield or the Stack (ie. Library, Hand, Graveyard, Exile, etc), a Card is called a "Card".
  • While in your Library, Minotaur Abomination is simply a "Creature Card". When you Draw it, it's still a "Creature Card" in your Hand.
All non-Land Cards become "Spells" as they are Cast and move to the Stack.
  • You announce that you're casting the Minotaur Abomination. It leaves your Hand and moves to the Stack. You figure out its total cost {4BB}, you pay that cost and the Minotaur officially becomes a "Creature Spell".
Everything on the Battlefield is a "Permanent" (Artifact, Creature, Enchantment, Land or Planeswalker).
  • After both players pass priority in succession, the Minotaur Abomination Creature Spell resolves, it leaves the Stack and enters the Battlefield as a "Creature (Permanent)".

Originally posted by Supermaori:
What is a non land permenent?
Anything on the Battlefield is a "Permanent". Furthermore, anything that is not a Land is a "nonland permanent".

Your Minotaur Abomination (Creature Permanent) that just resolved does not have the type "Land". Therefore, it IS a "nonland permanent".

If it was Enchanted by Imprisoned in the Moon, then it would become a Land (and lose its prior types). Therefore, it is NOT a "nonland permanent".
Last edited by pjfeigel; Oct 12, 2016 @ 11:27pm
Supermaori Oct 13, 2016 @ 12:25am 
So there was a glitch or my misreading. But I still think that there was nothing that can prevent my spell. I confirmed that that spell I used was suppression bonds. And I used it to some zombie who got big numbers of stats. But the zombie still could attack and use its effect so I lost that game because my strategy didn't work. And I don't remember the zombie's name.

I had to memolize every card on board. Next time I'll do if something weird happens. Thank you.
yummyvermin Oct 13, 2016 @ 12:45am 
Did your opponent have a cryptbreaker out that let them tap zombies to draw cards?
Mjollnir49172 Oct 13, 2016 @ 4:37am 
Also, if you're not aware, it's possible that you enchant an aura attached to a creature instead of the creature itself, which could explain why his creature could attack freely.
The Worst Oct 13, 2016 @ 6:12am 
A miserable little pile of secrets!
Dominus Oct 13, 2016 @ 11:11am 
On top of all the above: did the enemy, assumably "attack" on his combat phase and if so; did he have the enchantment still attached to him? ( he could've used many of the blue spectrum flickers exile-and rereturn->the creature loses the supression bonds, or did he simply destroy the enchantment?). Then there is ofcourse the unknown, did he use the same zombie really, or did he just cast a creature with the same name and haste(?)
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