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Coins Needed To Unlock All Cards (My Estimate)
Edit:

My original totals were very wrong! But I fixed it:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1087535380


Original Post:

I know this topic has been discussed before but I did the math.

There are 1221 unique cards to unlock.
There are 3697 total cards to unlock

This means there are 616.17 boosters to purchase.
I rounded to 617 and figured the following.

At full price per booster it would take 92550 coins to unlock every set.

At 480 coins per day it would take 192.81 days or 6.22 months
At 400 coins per day it would take 231.38 days or 7.46 months

If you were to buy every set by purchasing coins it would cost:
$493.48 with the $39.99 for 7500c deal
$1844.83 with the 2.99 for 150c deal.

I will post a picture with the spreadsheet details.
Last edited by Ravecandy; Jul 24, 2017 @ 1:04am
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Pandawan Jul 22, 2017 @ 5:57am 
A big set is 12000 golds (80 boosters).
A small set is 9600 golds (64 boosters).

There is 5 big sets and 3 small sets, so 88800 golds to have all cards.
So 12 deals at 39.99$, meaning 479.88$ in total.
Leon [BR] Jul 22, 2017 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Pandawan:
A big set is 12000 golds (80 boosters).
A small set is 9600 golds (64 boosters).

There is 5 big sets and 3 small sets, so 88800 golds to have all cards.

This is correct.

The difference probably is the free starters of each set. If you already had removed them from your math... probably you miscounted the limit of each card (common, uncommon, rare and mythic - 4,3,2,1).

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592 booster in total.
3552 cards to unlock.
88800 coins to buy everything at full price.
76561197968574792 Jul 23, 2017 @ 6:54am 
Maybe I miscounted, but here is what I saw minus (D) starter.

467 commons x4 = 1868
404 uncommons x3 = 1212
267 Rares x2 = 534
83 Mythics x1 = 83

1868+1212+534+83 = 3697

3697 / 6 = 616.16(r)

I think that some of the cards that aren't D starter get unlocked after the campaigns.
If this is the case, then you are right. Either way you can still determine the total value of all cards.

Last edited by Ravecandy; Jul 23, 2017 @ 6:58am
pjfeigel Jul 23, 2017 @ 7:39am 
Originally posted by Ravecandy:
Maybe I miscounted, but here is what I saw minus (D) starter.
Every "large" expansion has a total of 158 unique cards; 10 Mythic, 35 Rare, 52 Uncommon and 61 Common. For a total of 480 cards, divided into 80 boosters.

Every "small" expansions has a total of 126 unique cards; 8 Mythic, 28 Rare, 40 Uncommon and 50 Common. For a total of 384 cards, divided into 64 boosters.

Therefore, your numbers are all jacked up.

467 commons x4 = 1868
61x5 + 50x3 = 455 Common, not 467.

404 uncommons x3 = 1212
52x5 + 40x3 = 380 Uncommon, not 404.

267 Rares x2 = 534
35x5 + 28x3 = 259 Rare, not 267

83 Mythics x1 = 83
10x5 + 8x3 = 74 Mythic, not 83
76561197968574792 Jul 23, 2017 @ 9:52am 
I see that now!

Mistake 1:
(Dont use this site: magicduelshelper)

Mistake 2:
The in-game list shows:

Amonkhet:169
Aether Revolt: 138
Kaladesh: 167
Eldritch Moon: 131
Shadows over Innistrad: 170
Oath of the Gatewatch: 134
Battle For Zendikar: 168
Origins: 251

So going back through I recounted the starters from each one.
I got it now.

Last edited by Ravecandy; Jul 23, 2017 @ 9:53am
76561197968574792 Jul 23, 2017 @ 10:12am 
88800 At full cost for all the boosters

1500 Full art lands
8250 All sleeves
7500 All personas

17,250 for all extras

106,050 coins for everything (up to now)

Well, back to the game!
Corbian Jul 24, 2017 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by Ravecandy:
If you were to buy every set by purchasing coins it would cost:
$493.48 with the $39.99 for 7500c deal
$1844.83 with the 2.99 for 150c deal.

You're no worse in maths than Stainless.

Here in euros, we have :
7500 coins for € 35.99 => exchange rate is .89997 ( = 35.99 / 39.99 )
150 coins for € 1.79 => exchange rate is .59866 ( = 1.79 / 2.99 )

and today Google says $ 1 = € ,85879
I don't remember it going as low as .6 ( ? )
So, if you buy in euros, it's a little more expensive with the 7500 coins packs ; but quite less with the 150 coins pack, which in turn are still being more expensive than the 7500 coins packs.

You got it, didn't you ? :2016whoadude:
76561197968574792 Jul 24, 2017 @ 1:03am 
Originally posted by Corbian:
Here in euros, we have :
7500 coins for € 35.99 => exchange rate is .89997 ( = 35.99 / 39.99 )
150 coins for € 1.79 => exchange rate is .59866 ( = 1.79 / 2.99 )

88800 coins value difference:

(7500 coin deal)
$473.48 or €426.12

(150 coin deal)
$1770.08 or €1059.68
Corbian Jul 24, 2017 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by Ravecandy:
Originally posted by Corbian:
Here in euros, we have :
7500 coins for € 35.99 => exchange rate is .89997 ( = 35.99 / 39.99 )
150 coins for € 1.79 => exchange rate is .59866 ( = 1.79 / 2.99 )

88800 coins value difference:

(7500 coin deal)
$473.48 or €426.12

(150 coin deal)
$1770.08 or €1059.68

Sure, but, buying bosters only with the 150 coins deals,
if you convert back € price to $ using real money exchange rate,
you get something around that (*) :
€ 1059.68 / .85879 = $ 1233.92
which in turn is $ 536.16 less than the $ 1770.08 price USA gamers would have to pay.

Then, look at your numbers :
if you buy boosters only with the 7500 coin deals,
you have to pay less than this difference : $ 473.48 < $ 536.16.

So... beside in-game coins, the real price is unknown !

Let's add another money to jam those maths even more :
Imagine the case of someone living in, say, San Francisco, buying coins in $, then moving to London, buying coins in £, then moving to Madrid, buying coins in € then moving to Tokyo, buying coins in ¥, then ....
And what about tourists buying coins in holidays ?
Should they pay their home country price or the one in the country they're in holidays ?
I mean, for real Magic cards, that would be the second for sure, but with virtual Magic Duel cards, you need to open a foreign bank account for that !

(*) that's Google's exchange rate I seen this morning, if the € / $ exchange rate comes closer to parity (1 € = 1 $), you'll see an even bigger difference since coins pricing is fixed in Magic Duels.
On the opposite hand, items sold through the Steam Market looks here like having a fixed $ price and a varying € price, which is more fair, isn't it ?
Maybe boosters should have been sold for real money this way, not via in-game coins (or else in-game coins been sold via Steam Market) ? I don't know what is good about those pricings...
76561198317264321 Jul 24, 2017 @ 4:03am 
why spend real money when you can unlock all cards for free???
76561197968574792 Jul 24, 2017 @ 11:26am 
:D Yay math! :steamhappy:
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