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Jun 15, 2017 @ 10:24pm
i hate planeswalkers, they are bad for the game
i decided to make another one of these threads, feel free to troll me and call me a noob or whatever.

planeswalkers are boring to play and to play against. they are very one dimensional. they also have poor depth of interaction with everything else. however they are played because of how powerful they can be. but notice how with planeswalkers, its never anything spectacular or unexpected. the play is not rewarding at all because its always so bland and robotic.

i wish all planeswalkers would be removed from the game, or very harshly restricted. but i doubt it will happen, that would be close to a dream come true.

i've read a few of these similar threads already, heard all the arguments and stuff, so theres no need to discuss anything here. this thread should be purely for the purpose of trolling. i just felt like adding one more voice to the sea of voices dissatisfied with this particular design element.
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seriaon Jun 15, 2017 @ 11:47pm 
Interessting opinion you have there. Its so different.
76561198391796066 Jun 16, 2017 @ 12:37am 
i suggest playing planeswalker hate. only then you'll find something else to complain about. oh the cyclical nature of magic in all its wonder.
Tie Jun 16, 2017 @ 7:14am 
I hate Artifacts, they are bad for the game.
i decided to make another one of these responses. Feel free to troll me and call me a scrub or whatever.

Artifacts are boring to play, and to play against. they are very one dimensional. they also have poor depth of interaction with everything else. however they are played because of how powerful they can be. but notice how with artifacts, it's never anything spectacular or unexpected. the play is not rewarding at all because it's always so bland and robotic.
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people have complained about every card type. get over it. Some colors are weaker against certain card types in general wich is part of the game and part of adapting to the meta.
you can make a deck from any one color that can trump any 3+ color planeswalker focused deck.
Equinox_Alpha Jun 16, 2017 @ 9:27am 
I can understand why you would think that...

You see Planeswalkers are in fact integral to the game and so you will get many people ridiculing you for saying that...

But I can understand that in Duels Planeswalkers are a little ott when you compare them to the other cards in the Deck pool...

You see the Deck pool in Duels is So limited that its essentially broken dumbed down simplified version of a game called MTG Magic the Gathering...

In MTG you have access to thousands, I mean literally thousands of cards and many are more OTT than planeswalkers....

There are Eldrazi such as Emrakul that make most players quake in their boots, then there are Gods and indestructible creatures that do all manner of things such as preventing you from casting any spell of a specified colour for example...

But in duels the card pool sucks... so here the Planeswalkers are well over the top.... But in the game of MTG Planeswalkers are integral to the game... it’s what the game is about in fact...
Jack Jun 16, 2017 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by magicnerd:
i decided to make another one of these threads, feel free to troll me and call me a noob or whatever.

planeswalkers are boring to play and to play against. they are very one dimensional. they also have poor depth of interaction with everything else. however they are played because of how powerful they can be. but notice how with planeswalkers, its never anything spectacular or unexpected. the play is not rewarding at all because its always so bland and robotic.

i wish all planeswalkers would be removed from the game, or very harshly restricted. but i doubt it will happen, that would be close to a dream come true.

i've read a few of these similar threads already, heard all the arguments and stuff, so theres no need to discuss anything here. this thread should be purely for the purpose of trolling. i just felt like adding one more voice to the sea of voices dissatisfied with this particular design element.

Well, I guess Magic Duels of the planewalkers (misleading name as you play as the planewalker) 2012*,2013,2014 or 2015 are games for you then?, No planeswalkers, but it will be kind of hard to find a match online in those games. (Pretty good solo campains though (Better than duels)), and most of them got uniqe challenges from easy to hard to solve.

However, Magic Duels was fairly well recived and a lot more popular than the old games so I guess your in the minority wanting Planeswalkers removed from future titles sorry.

*The 2012 version is just called Duels of the planeswalkers if I remember correctly.
PS: 2014 is probably my personal favorite, but to each their own ;)
Last edited by Jack; Jun 16, 2017 @ 10:54am
Jun 16, 2017 @ 10:53am 
how can MTG be all about planeswalkers? 15 years ago when the game was created they did not exist, not until just 3-4 years ago. but yes i agree that my opinion is probably due to the limited pool of cards on duels; i play on MTGO as well and its pretty rare to see a planeswalker being played. i'm mostly annoyed about the style of magic planeswalkers promote though - the predictable, step by step encroachment of a single card that takes little else into consideration. no synergy, no inventiveness, dumbed down deckbuilding, eww
Jun 16, 2017 @ 10:55am 
to stay in the spirit of the thread, i just wanna say,

hi.
Wiffin Jun 16, 2017 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by magicnerd:
to stay in the spirit of the thread, i just wanna say,

hi.

Hey :)

When they first came out it was a fresh and fairly cool idea. But the more they print the more stale they feel to me. They are not my favorite part of the game, and generally not the ones I am most stoked about in a new expansion. But theyre there so might as well use them.
Equinox_Alpha Jun 16, 2017 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by magicnerd:
how can MTG be all about planeswalkers? 15 years ago when the game was created they did not exist, not until just 3-4 years ago.

The cards were released in 2007 I believe?

But the concept of the planewalker and the meta surrounding MTG has existed since the beginning....

In essence YOU are the planewalker.

There have been visual representation of this though in other mtg games, most noticeably and most enjoyable PS1 game as far back as 1997..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQck4xXp5Cc


Chezident Jun 16, 2017 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Aura-Master:
I can understand why you would think that...

You see Planeswalkers are in fact integral to the game and so you will get many people ridiculing you for saying that...

But I can understand that in Duels Planeswalkers are a little ott when you compare them to the other cards in the Deck pool...

You see the Deck pool in Duels is So limited that its essentially broken dumbed down simplified version of a game called MTG Magic the Gathering...

In MTG you have access to thousands, I mean literally thousands of cards and many are more OTT than planeswalkers....

There are Eldrazi such as Emrakul that make most players quake in their boots, then there are Gods and indestructible creatures that do all manner of things such as preventing you from casting any spell of a specified colour for example...

But in duels the card pool sucks... so here the Planeswalkers are well over the top.... But in the game of MTG Planeswalkers are integral to the game... it’s what the game is about in fact...

Jesus Christ, the women's only showing of Wonder Woman had fewer periods than that. Calm the hell down, man.
Equinox_Alpha Jun 16, 2017 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Artorias:
Originally posted by Aura-Master:
I can understand why you would think that...

You see Planeswalkers are in fact integral to the game and so you will get many people ridiculing you for saying that...

But I can understand that in Duels Planeswalkers are a little ott when you compare them to the other cards in the Deck pool...

You see the Deck pool in Duels is So limited that its essentially broken dumbed down simplified version of a game called MTG Magic the Gathering...

In MTG you have access to thousands, I mean literally thousands of cards and many are more OTT than planeswalkers....

There are Eldrazi such as Emrakul that make most players quake in their boots, then there are Gods and indestructible creatures that do all manner of things such as preventing you from casting any spell of a specified colour for example...

But in duels the card pool sucks... so here the Planeswalkers are well over the top.... But in the game of MTG Planeswalkers are integral to the game... it’s what the game is about in fact...

Jesus Christ, the women's only showing of Wonder Woman had fewer periods than that. Calm the hell down, man.

Oh shut up you pathetic manchild!
Captain_Narol Jun 16, 2017 @ 1:48pm 
Jar-Jar Aura Snow, you know nothing. (AGAIN)

When Magic got released, there was no concept of Planeswalkers and no lore. The player were supposed to be magician battling with spells and conjuring creatures, nothing more.

They added the concept of Planeswalkers and some lore only later, with the release of the Antiquities expansion set which was for the most part about the story of the planeswalker Urza.

You probably weren't playing Magic at that time, but I was.
Equinox_Alpha Jun 16, 2017 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Captain Narol:
Jar-Jar Aura Snow, you know nothing. (AGAIN)

When Magic got released, there was no concept of Planeswalkers and no lore.

I know its confusing because we have planeswalker cards... but it is true... the original concept was that the player themselves were duelists... planeswalkers..... You are the one that casts spells... you are the planeswalker...

That was the original concept.
Captain_Narol Jun 16, 2017 @ 2:02pm 
Wrong again, there was NO CONCEPT of planes and walking throught them in the initial Magic game when it was released, that came later when they decided to add some lore to what was basically just a card game.

You can search all the cards from the first basic set, the words "planewalker" and "plane" don't even appear in the flavor text.

Players were just Magicians, not Planeswalkers.
Last edited by Captain_Narol; Jun 16, 2017 @ 2:03pm
Equinox_Alpha Jun 16, 2017 @ 2:06pm 
Originally posted by Captain Narol:
Wrong again, there was NO CONCEPT of planes and walking throught them in the initial Magic game when it was released, that came later when they decided to add some lore to what was basically just a card game.

You can search all the cards from the first basic set, the words "planewalker" and "plane" don't even appear in the flavor text.

Players were just Magicians, not Planeswalkers.

When it was released no... but very shortly after... yes..... The meta developed around it within the first few years, by 1995 the basis of the planes and the idea that the player were planewalkers was a thing.
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