3-4 player FFA needed

[OBoneSOB]

You desperately need to add in 3 and/or 4 player FFA, it's kind of a crap multiplayer game until that is incorporated. Screw putting in "new cards" and all of that nonsense. Be smart.

[Marci]

Have you ever played 3+ player FFA MTG?

I play 3 player FFA every Wednesday evening with two very good friends. And based on that I would never recommend it for Duels:
- matches can take forever: It is very risky attacking, because you leave yourself open for counter-attack from two players. It doesn't worth playing your strong cards early, or play aggro, because that forces the other two players to cooperate, and eliminate you. Also, the game state is much more complicated, so it takes more time to think it through.
- even with good friends it can be very frustrating experience. When you get killed (or just fatally weakened) by a player who for some reason doesn't see that the other player is the bigger threat.. and this ties with the earlier point: it does not worth playing scary cards early; usually it's best to keep your "game ending" cards until you have only one opponent.

[Kardinal Xenos]

Sounds interesting

[Mike]

screw FFA, we need draft! magic is a 1-v-1 game at heart.

[arenaynieve]

Screw FFA! We need nsfw art in the cards!! They have boring pics lol

[battlecattle]

There's FFA in the 2014 and 2015 duels of the planeswalker games (no idea about the older ones).

[OncomingStormDW]

yeah, and would you like commander too? maybe some slivers to rub it in with?
(not too keen on getting my ass kicked)

for those of you who are wondering, Commander is the largest unofficial format of the physical game (which is awesome, but we have to have a rule where i go. where you can build a deck up to 80% of it's potential power, or it is just too one sided), and slivers are creatures that have effects that make them similar to "rally" but last forever, making them overpowered. (combine the low cost and synergy of allies with the high stats of eldrazi, and that is what slivers are)

[OBoneSOB]

I was thinking more along the lines of with friends - not randoms - so the imbalanced decks and such could be dealt with. Plus, the betrayal and saltiness is part of the fun, it's not "Candyland" after all. I think the OPTION of a 3-4 player FFA (which you butthurt kiddos wouldn't NEED to partake in) would be wonderful.

[lvl.99 Weezing]

They better add draft or some kind of competitive tournaments before that, now the game seems ultra casual

[joefitts63]

Originally posted by OncomingStormDW:

yeah, and would you like commander too? maybe some slivers to rub it in with?
(not too keen on getting my ass kicked)

for those of you who are wondering, Commander is the largest unofficial format of the physical game (which is awesome, but we have to have a rule where i go. where you can build a deck up to 80% of it's potential power, or it is just too one sided), and slivers are creatures that have effects that make them similar to "rally" but last forever, making them overpowered. (combine the low cost and synergy of allies with the high stats of eldrazi, and that is what slivers are)

It isn't really unofficial; they are selling Commander decks.

[sithlordofsnark]

Nobody wants FFA, that's why it wasn't added to Duels.

[DONK_Theurgic]

People are way to competitive. They don't like FFA likely because they're so good everyone gangs up on them. I love the unpredictability on how a game would end and the mayhem that ensues. It also allows more friends to get together and play. Magic should defiantly add Free For All so it appeals to groups of people and get them more interested. FFA will help grow the community grow and allow the company to get more money so they can improve on the game. Regardless if you like FFA it'll be more beneficial to the community rather than focusing on skilled and competitive players they should focus on bring more people in the community. That way they can add more stuff to appeal both competitive players and newcomers.

It's Fortnite's business move and whether we like the game or not it is VERY popular. The game has cheap weapons that'll appeal to newcomers and skillful weapons that appeal to competitive players.

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by DONK_Theurgic:

People are way to competitive. They don't like FFA likely because they're so good everyone gangs up on them. I love the unpredictability on how a game would end and the mayhem that ensues. It also allows more friends to get together and play. Magic should defiantly add Free For All so it appeals to groups of people and get them more interested. FFA will help grow the community grow and allow the company to get more money so they can improve on the game. Regardless if you like FFA it'll be more beneficial to the community rather than focusing on skilled and competitive players they should focus on bring more people in the community. That way they can add more stuff to appeal both competitive players and newcomers.

It's Fortnite's business move and whether we like the game or not it is VERY popular. The game has cheap weapons that'll appeal to newcomers and skillful weapons that appeal to competitive players.

Well FFA will never be added to Magic Duels. It stopped receiving updates and support as of June 2017 and this thread had ended Jan 2017. So a little late here.

[OncomingStormDW]

Originally posted by DONK_Theurgic:

People are way to competitive. They don't like FFA likely because they're so good everyone gangs up on them. I love the unpredictability on how a game would end and the mayhem that ensues. It also allows more friends to get together and play. Magic should defiantly add Free For All so it appeals to groups of people and get them more interested. FFA will help grow the community grow and allow the company to get more money so they can improve on the game. Regardless if you like FFA it'll be more beneficial to the community rather than focusing on skilled and competitive players they should focus on bring more people in the community. That way they can add more stuff to appeal both competitive players and newcomers.

It's Fortnite's business move and whether we like the game or not it is VERY popular. The game has cheap weapons that'll appeal to newcomers and skillful weapons that appeal to competitive players.

Sorry to have to tell you, but the world has moved on, it's all about MTG Arena now (which is actually released, and not in beta)

[Junipercat]

Originally posted by OncomingStormDW:

Sorry to have to tell you, but the world has moved on, it's all about MTG Arena now (which is actually released, and not in beta)

Well in open beta technically. Though at this point, not sure what the difference could be from a full official launch.

[aversethule]

Originally posted by Marci:

Have you ever played 3+ player FFA MTG?

I play 3 player FFA every Wednesday evening with two very good friends. And based on that I would never recommend it for Duels:
- matches can take forever: It is very risky attacking, because you leave yourself open for counter-attack from two players. It doesn't worth playing your strong cards early, or play aggro, because that forces the other two players to cooperate, and eliminate you. Also, the game state is much more complicated, so it takes more time to think it through.
- even with good friends it can be very frustrating experience. When you get killed (or just fatally weakened) by a player who for some reason doesn't see that the other player is the bigger threat.. and this ties with the earlier point: it does not worth playing scary cards early; usually it's best to keep your "game ending" cards until you have only one opponent.

I used to play 3/4/5 FFA with friends back in the mid 90s (4th ed was new at time iirc) and we experienced this often...like 5-6 hour games. One mod we sometimes added to speed things up was to have "attack right, defend left" and if someone was eliminated you just tightened the loop. You might consider trying that for a change of pace and see what happens.