Tired of playing the same AI decks over and over and over...

[MolybdenumMan]

I'm getting tired of playing the same AI decks all the time. Every one is built entirely with cards from Kaladesh. I am so sick of playing against artifact/energy/vehicle decks. If I wanted to play the same decks over and over I would go to FNM and play standard. How about a classic mono color deck once in a while? Or cards built around any mechanic from any other set? Despite their limitations, the old Duels of the Plainswalkers 20xx games at least had a variety of deck types to play against.

Is any one else experiencing this? Do you know why it happens? Does the AI always use decks based on the current set/block?

Kaladesh and Aether Revolt were the first 2 stories I completed and I've been buying mostly Kaladesh packs because of the sale so I'm wondering if it has something do with that. However I have completed the Battle for Zendikar/Oath of the Gatewatch stories since then. And I'm 3/5 done with the original Origins stories. I don't see why I shouldn't at least see a few opponents using decks based on the Origins base set since that is what the game starts out with.

[perico2palotes]

There should be (if there isn't already) some kind of switches where you could check which expansion decks you would like to play against.
I can see, however, how this may not be technically possible since as new cards and rules are added the AI is revised, cards phase out, and what not, so it could be the case that in order to enable multi-expansion gameplay Stainless had to store different AIs altogether (one per expansion) on the final package, which I think is not that straightforward to do (and might even require restarting M:D whenever you want to switch expansions).

[MolybdenumMan]

That's an interesting theory. But the game seems to be able to take over playing custom decks with cards from any set when one opponent drops the game during a matched game. So I doubt it is an AI limitation. If nothing else they could switch to a different AI tuned for each deck/set if necessary to play a deck on hard level.

How long have you been playing? Do you know what decks the AI used before Kaladesh/Aether Revolt came out?

[seriaon]

There will be new ones when the next set roules out :)

[hammerinn]

Ai decks are a sales tactic.

[MolybdenumMan]

So they just spam decks built with cards from the current set/block? Is that how it has always been since Duels came out? Aside from the fact that it gets boring after awhile, that also means that new players like myself will never get to play any AI decks built from older sets. Not cool.

[Pimp Master J]

Here's a crazy idea...play actual people. You know, kinda how Magic was intended to be played.

AI play should be boring and only include the current sets. This ensures a healthy player base for vs. battles.

[perico2palotes]

Originally posted by MolybdenumMan:

How long have you been playing? Do you know what decks the AI used before Kaladesh/Aether Revolt came out?

M:D since release, though I stopped for a couple expansions.

[seriaon]

Originally posted by MolybdenumMan:

How long have you been playing? Do you know what decks the AI used before Kaladesh/Aether Revolt came out?

BFZ was misrable. Every AI deck was at least white and blue and startet with 4 gideon's reproach in hand XD

[GeneralVeers]

Originally posted by Pimp Master J:

Here's a crazy idea...play actual people. You know, kinda how Magic was intended to be played.

SuperFriends, Sphinx's Tutelage, pause-stallers, disconnectors.

No thanks. :p

Edit: "Magic The Trollering". That's what they shoulda called this game.

[Evil Bliss]

Originally posted by seriaon:

BFZ was misrable. Every AI deck was at least white and blue and startet with 4 gideon's reproach in hand XD

TRUTH

Although yesterday, the AI played a weird deck with that River Marshall, the Razorfoot Griffin, and even the 2/1 flying that can only block flying. Didn't see one AR card, not even Renegade Map which the AI plays regurlarly...

[seriaon]

Originally posted by BayleyWWE:

Originally posted by seriaon:

BFZ was misrable. Every AI deck was at least white and blue and startet with 4 gideon's reproach in hand XD

TRUTH

Although yesterday, the AI played a weird deck with that River Marshall, the Razorfoot Griffin, and even the 2/1 flying that can only block flying. Didn't see one AR card, not even Renegade Map which the AI plays regurlarly...

soulds like an old deck they forgot to remove. Razorfoot Griffin war the most annoying card in origins cause the AI played it constantly^^

[MolybdenumMan]

Originally posted by Pimp Master J:

Here's a crazy idea...play actual people. You know, kinda how Magic was intended to be played.

AI play should be boring and only include the current sets. This ensures a healthy player base for vs. battles.

So the solo play should suck to force people to play online matches? Screw that. For the record, I play plenty of online matches but I still want use the solo play option. Why use solo mode?

1) Testing out new decks. If a deck can't beat the AI consistently why would I bother playing it online against net-decks that are already difficult to beat?
2) Messing around with fun deck ideas that aren't competitive and probably never will be. Again, I don't enjoy getting smashed by competitive decks and drop my ranking unnecessarily when I just want to mess around.
3) I play solo matches to complete some of the quests quicker.
4) If I just need a few quick coins to buy my next booster
5) When I just want to play without worrying about getting crushed by someone who has been playing for a year and has their decks stacked the most powerful cards in the game. I've only been playing less than 2 weeks and I've only bought about 30 boosters so far.
6) Because I enjoy playing solo sometimes, especially when the AI decks are fun and different than what everyone is playing online. I enjoyed playing several of the previous Duels of the Planeswalkers games in campaign mode. I'm sure I would also enjoy some solo AI play in Magic Duels if they weren't purposely making it suck.

[moisesrod2001]

IT SUCKS THAT MAGIC DUELS DONT ALLOWED THE USE OF ALL THE CARDS OF THE SETS. IT SUCKS DOUBLE THAT THE CARDS WE ARE ALLOWED TO USE, SOME OF THEM WE CANT HAVE ALL FOUR OF EACH. WE ALSO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A REVENGE PLAY WHEN WE LOOSE TO AN OPPONENT.

[perico2palotes]

I don't think forcing anyone to play is a good idea. Besides, you never know if a player is enjoying a coffee break at the office.
As a side note, they should disallow selling caps-lock enabled keyboards unless buyer displays a netiquette license.
I think D. T. is working on that (though I think it will apply only to buyers from certain countries).

[sithlordofsnark]

Originally posted by moisesrod2001:

IT SUCKS THAT MAGIC DUELS DONT ALLOWED THE USE OF ALL THE CARDS OF THE SETS. IT SUCKS DOUBLE THAT THE CARDS WE ARE ALLOWED TO USE, SOME OF THEM WE CANT HAVE ALL FOUR OF EACH. WE ALSO SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A REVENGE PLAY WHEN WE LOOSE TO AN OPPONENT.

No. It doesn't suck.

So many cards are game breaking, especially since Magic Duels doesn't rotate cards out when new expansions rotate in. I'm glad certain cards like Emrakul can't be used, because they make the game no fun.