Let's get the facts straight concerning the now infamous Flash scene

[Carpe x Noctem]

I've played the game. I want to try to set the record straight over the Flash controversy. Contrary to what you may have heard or think you viewed, Captain Boomerang does not actually urinate on the Flash's body. This misinformation taken as fact is the result of some clueless YouTubers claiming Captain Boomerang pees on the Flash in an attempt at views.

This game has a budget. You would see the aftermath or at least hear urination sounds. They wouldn't take the lazy route and just imply it.

What actually happens is Boomerang unzips his fly and is about to desecrate the Flash's corpse but Deadshot stops him. He then notices the size of Boomer's junk. Then Harley and King Shark have their reactions. That is the scene.

[Meow]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Meow:

Yeah that's what i'm thinking too, i made a mistake meant to say (arkham not gotham) If Monolith is still Monolith i think Wonder Woman would do well with them, just be aware the 'Woke elements' may be high lol.

I'm not really keyed in on politics but hey Wonder Woman was always kinda feminist, as long as she's still herself and embodies the spirit of justice and truth I'll be more than happy!

As long as she's fair, because as much as she was all for women's rights she didn't put down men and was extremely critical of misandry among her people.

I don't really put my hope in any of their hands, unfortunately this is the timeline of Rocksteady SSKTJL. & that Gotham Knights that just kicked me out of the game for match making even though i'm on Solo Single player mode.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

I am excited for the wonder woman game though. Like really annoyingly excited, trying to tamper it down so I don't get too hyped and let down. I'd rather have low expectations and be blown away than high expectations and be disappointed.

Monolith I think would do a better Wonderwoman game than rocksteady could have. Since Selina's whip was annoying and she'd probably only do a mix of that and the batclaw take down move with her lasso.

You and me both, it's one of two or three games I'm unironically looking forward to, despite only knowing the bare minimum. Really hope it’ll be great – and potentially pave the way for Superman game, considering similar power level.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Also, no offence, but I think about the same amount of people “still talk and care about Keaton's Batman” as ones who do the same about Aquaman.

I think you've just stated that consumers can't tell the difference in the quality of things, which is exactly how we ended up getting games like Suicide Squad. Why wouldn't they believe such things about you, when you believe them about yourself?

People like good things, not things that suck

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Aquaman's numbers are a function of the time period in which Aquaman was released. Period. It rode the wave of Endgame, so to speak

If a booster gold film came out tomorrow and was great, it would sell better from word of mouth than a batman done horribly

That's a big chain of big ifs. I don't agree. I think names like Booster Gold are valueless. I think a Solo Leveling movie would sell 14x a Booster Gold movie right now. American comic fans tend to be a bit in the past.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

I think you've just stated that consumers can't tell the difference in the quality of things, which is exactly how we ended up getting games like Suicide Squad. Why wouldn't they believe such things about you, when you believe them about yourself?

People like good things, not things that suck

I'm not sure what you mean by your first paragraph - I've never said that people can't differentiate between quality of things.

My main point is that for a story - a video game, a movie or whatever - to be successful, it needs to meet a certain quality threshold. It doesn’t mean that every genuinely great movie or game will be successful and popular, just like it doesn't mean that Avengers is the greatest cinematic masterpiece of all time, because it made so much cash in box office – hence, quality =/= success. Aquaman, regardless of my opinion about it, met this threshold – it was a fun summer blockbuster, that a lot of people liked. Suicide Squad game, on the other hand, didn’t meet it. They are both stories about less popular characters, yet the reception is different.

You've said that DC only has Batman and Superman and everything else will most likely flop, because people aren’t interested – I’m saying that there are examples of movies and games that’ve featured both, yet failed, just like there are examples that featured neither and succeeded. It goes beyond name recognition and mostly depends on execution.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

I am excited for the wonder woman game though. Like really annoyingly excited, trying to tamper it down so I don't get too hyped and let down. I'd rather have low expectations and be blown away than high expectations and be disappointed.

Monolith I think would do a better Wonderwoman game than rocksteady could have. Since Selina's whip was annoying and she'd probably only do a mix of that and the batclaw take down move with her lasso.

You and me both, it's one of two or three games I'm unironically looking forward to, despite only knowing the bare minimum. Really hope it’ll be great – and potentially pave the way for Superman game, considering similar power level.

I know it looks so great! I'm really hyped for it, even if it seems more Xena than Diana I don't care. I only Xena cause she was a rip off of WW!

I hope it will show that people want a Superman game too, but I don't know how the nemesis system would work with him... unless they just made it like Intergang members so defeating you boosts their status among other criminal's

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Irrelevant, came at the height of superhero movie spending by the public. Captain Marvel made that much money too and is a horrible movie that nobody remembers or likes. Nobody talks about or cares about Aquaman, people still talk about and care about Keaton Batman. Success isn't simply measured by sales, very tone deaf corporate executive thinking that has leaked into the public sphere.

I'm not saying that Aquaman was a fantastic movie, I'm saying that it was a financially successful movie. A more succesful movie than the one involving two out of three DC's most popular characters. And yes, success is absolutely and undeniably measured by money. Quality isn't - but success definitely is.

Also, no offence, but I think about the same amount of people “still talk and care about Keaton's Batman” as ones who do the same about Aquaman.

Very few DC Fans even care about Aquaman, heck even DC Comics doesnt have an Aquaman Comic right now. At the time it was the Hype, along with Jason, that made that Movie Money. If he was Popular then the Second Movie would have done well.

Casual Superhero Movie Fans only cared because they thought it was part of the Continuation of the DCU, but once the Snyderverse was Canned they all noped out. Thanks to Super Friends Aquaman has always been a Joke ever since I was a Kid. Even when they tried to Edge him up in the 90's most still didnt care. He has his Fans, but he is about as big of a deal to DC as Antman is for Marvel.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Meow:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

I'm not really keyed in on politics but hey Wonder Woman was always kinda feminist, as long as she's still herself and embodies the spirit of justice and truth I'll be more than happy!

As long as she's fair, because as much as she was all for women's rights she didn't put down men and was extremely critical of misandry among her people.

I don't really put my hope in any of their hands, unfortunately this is the timeline of Rocksteady SSKTJL. & that Gotham Knights that just kicked me out of the game for match making even though i'm on Solo Single player mode.

Wait really? I never had that issue with Gotham knights... it runs horribly, my steam deck sounds like a jet engine. It is not very well optimised even at the lowest settings but it never booted me?

And I think Gotham Knight's while it definitely didn't stick to the character backstories fully had a lot of respect for the characters and the audience at least.

This game I don't think respects the characters at all...

But this team isn't making wonder woman! So fingers crossed its good

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

If a booster gold film came out tomorrow and was great, it would sell better from word of mouth than a batman done horribly

That's a big chain of big ifs. I don't agree. I think names like Booster Gold are valueless. I think a Solo Leveling movie would sell 14x a Booster Gold movie right now. American comic fans tend to be a bit in the past.

That'd because American comics aren't very good right now. Current batman is genuinely unreadable.

But Jay garrick has been great.

And the Eastern market is picking up slack appealing to teenage boys which western media in general refuses to.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

I know it looks so great! I'm really hyped for it, even if it seems more Xena than Diana I don't care. I only Xena cause she was a rip off of WW!

He, I though about something funny. Antony Starr and Karl Urban both played in Xena. Xena is a WW rip off. Then, Antony went on to play a Superman rip off and Karl went to play a semi-Punisher rip off in the Boys.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

I think you've just stated that consumers can't tell the difference in the quality of things, which is exactly how we ended up getting games like Suicide Squad. Why wouldn't they believe such things about you, when you believe them about yourself?

People like good things, not things that suck

I'm not sure what you mean by your first paragraph - I've never said that people can't differentiate between quality of things.

You suggested there is/will be as much continuing appreciation of the Aquaman movie as there is for the Keaton Batman movies, which I think is a bizarrely ludicrous thing to say, and incorrect.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

That's a big chain of big ifs. I don't agree. I think names like Booster Gold are valueless. I think a Solo Leveling movie would sell 14x a Booster Gold movie right now. American comic fans tend to be a bit in the past.

That'd because American comics aren't very good right now.

Let's be honest, the last really good storylines were in the 1980's. They're just dead walking, really.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

I know it looks so great! I'm really hyped for it, even if it seems more Xena than Diana I don't care. I only Xena cause she was a rip off of WW!

He, I though about something funny. Antony Starr and Karl Urban both played in Xena. Xena is a WW rip off. Then, Antony went on to play a Superman rip off and Karl went to play a semi-Punisher rip off in the Boys.

Lmao I totally forgot they were in that! I also think Xena is probably the only rip off that was actually good and kept the spirit of the og!

Back when knock offs were still quality

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

That'd because American comics aren't very good right now.

Let's be honest, the last really good storylines were in the 1980's. They're just dead walking, really.

I don't agree. I quite liked a lot of stories in the 2000s. And supersons was great. Even enjoyed a few things lately like Superman lost by Priest and Jay Garrick's the flash that's still ongoing. Batman and joker deadly duo was recent enough too and I really really liked that. One of the only times I wasn't disgusted to see the joker show up

Same with current Superman has been pretty decent although not the best stories ever. Batman and Robin has been really good too. Ultimate spiderman is genuinely amazing so far (only two issues recently tho)

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Let's be honest, the last really good storylines were in the 1980's. They're just dead walking, really.

I don't agree. I quite liked a lot of stories in the 2000s. And supersons was great. Even enjoyed a few things lately like Superman lost by Priest and Jay Garrick's the flash that's still ongoing. Batman and joker deadly duo was recent enough too and I really really liked that. One of the only times I wasn't disgusted to see the joker show up

Same with current Superman has been pretty decent although not the best stories ever. Batman and Robin has been really good too. Ultimate spiderman is genuinely amazing so far (only two issues recently tho)

The characters are just retreads for far too long at this point, it's just boring in general. Manga is interesting because almost all manga lasts for a few years, not just running the same characters into the ground for literally a hundred years now in the case of Superman.

A guy called Superman who is like a "super" version of a man. Super interesting in 2024.