Let's get the facts straight concerning the now infamous Flash scene

[Carpe x Noctem]

I've played the game. I want to try to set the record straight over the Flash controversy. Contrary to what you may have heard or think you viewed, Captain Boomerang does not actually urinate on the Flash's body. This misinformation taken as fact is the result of some clueless YouTubers claiming Captain Boomerang pees on the Flash in an attempt at views.

This game has a budget. You would see the aftermath or at least hear urination sounds. They wouldn't take the lazy route and just imply it.

What actually happens is Boomerang unzips his fly and is about to desecrate the Flash's corpse but Deadshot stops him. He then notices the size of Boomer's junk. Then Harley and King Shark have their reactions. That is the scene.

[PurpleTrain]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by PurpleTrain:

Chill? You chimed in with a complete nothing statement. And have proceeded to further argue its relevance to anything. Well done.

I know now to just completely ignore your pointless interjections in the future, so at least you added one thing. Thanks.

Okay I am going to show you why not only he, but I also see your comment as saying we should buy it if we dont want to see Rocksteady Close.

Originally posted by PurpleTrain:

Yup. Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

In Carpes Statement that you Replied to they said 'as well as POOR SALES'. This can indeed be seen as saying that along with our Complaints we would need to Buy it.

Further more that Clip you took was from a Discussion that I was having with Carp, so while you want to claim I butted in I can make the same stupid claim. If you continued to follow our Discussion, Carpe does indeed think we should Buy it to stop them from Closing.

So in the end your agreeing with Carpes claim that Fans should indeed Buy the Game in the HOPE they make a better one down the line with your Reply. You may have not intended it to come off that way as you may have not thought that was Carpes thought at the time, but that is how it looks to us.

Again, nobody said anything about needing to buy it. You're reaching.

Look, I don't know why you felt the need to interject with such a useless comment earlier, or why you seem really keen to defend it. What is your problem? Why are you being so argumentative in here?

[nobalkain]

Originally posted by PurpleTrain:

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Okay I am going to show you why not only he, but I also see your comment as saying we should buy it if we dont want to see Rocksteady Close.



In Carpes Statement that you Replied to they said 'as well as POOR SALES'. This can indeed be seen as saying that along with our Complaints we would need to Buy it.

Further more that Clip you took was from a Discussion that I was having with Carp, so while you want to claim I butted in I can make the same stupid claim. If you continued to follow our Discussion, Carpe does indeed think we should Buy it to stop them from Closing.

So in the end your agreeing with Carpes claim that Fans should indeed Buy the Game in the HOPE they make a better one down the line with your Reply. You may have not intended it to come off that way as you may have not thought that was Carpes thought at the time, but that is how it looks to us.

Again, nobody said anything about needing to buy it. You're reaching.

Look, I don't know why you felt the need to interject with such a useless comment earlier, or why you seem really keen to defend it. What is your problem? Why are you being so argumentative in here?

Because your the one who decided to Argue with me. Your the one who decided to "interject" into my Discussion. Just because you Clipped me out of it does not change that. I think your whole idea of saying people cant join Public Discussion is stupid, but if your going to keep claiming it then I will point it out as well.

Sorry but just because you see it one way does not mean I am not allowed to see it another. Thats why I Replied each time. I have to right to see how MY Discussion went, and just because you disagree with that is not going to change it. We can Agree to Disagree, or you can keep having a Tantrum about it. Either way is fine with me as I find this rather entertaining.

[PurpleTrain]

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Originally posted by PurpleTrain:

Again, nobody said anything about needing to buy it. You're reaching.

Look, I don't know why you felt the need to interject with such a useless comment earlier, or why you seem really keen to defend it. What is your problem? Why are you being so argumentative in here?

Because your the one who decided to Argue with me. Your the one who decided to "interject" into my Discussion. Just because you Clipped me out of it does not change that. I think your whole idea of saying people cant join Public Discussion is stupid, but if your going to keep claiming it then I will point it out as well.

Sorry but just because you see it one way does not mean I am not allowed to see it another. Thats why I Replied each time. I have to right to see how MY Discussion went, and just because you disagree with that is not going to change it. We can Agree to Disagree, or you can keep having a Tantrum about it. Either way is fine with me as I find this rather entertaining.

You read into things too much. You have all the right to comment here, yes. Again, nobody said otherwise.
Just as I can point out the useless and interjecting nature of comments like this.

Originally posted by nobalkain:

Well then his Response to you seems to be correct.

Which has done nothing but start a pointless back and forth, as you seemingly just want to argue.

I'll leave you to it.

[Meow]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Meow:

It could be A Batman Beyond, Superman, even Middle Earth Single player Action - Adventure Trilogy, Whatever. (9+ years also means a level of gameplay evolution maybe nemesis system etc.) But that's the point it's still at core to it's gameplay identity & to it's Sales. It's really hard to F*ck that up when you're already sitting on previous work & ideas (Arkham's 4 games). Just paint it Superman, add some sh*t like a lived in world holy sh*t i made a $1billion.

This is as described by them ''Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is a genre-defying '' It's defying, it's niche.

The people in charge need to get ousted, give them all a studio called Super Niche baby.
The Truth is it's about 'sending a message' to us, they don't want us to enjoy things.

Honestly, I had an idea about a prequel for this that would have been interesting.

Superman/Clark Kent investigating rumours of Bruce Wayne faking his death and a demon Bat haunting Gotham alleys. Where you can work with what remains of the batfamily (Maybe Tim's slowly starting to retire or quiet quit because his DLC showed that he'd rather be a family man than waste his honeymoon doing Robin work) (Nightwing is still active and having fun, he could be someone who after reaching unlocks more aerial takedowns and maneuvers since Clark is taking inspiration from him) (Jason would probably be the last one you'd win over, he's still all about Might makes right so some of your strongest attacks are used in missions relating to red hood. He could also be the one who points you in the right direction since he knows which alleys are haunted because he's so on the pulse of Gotham's criminal element)

Probably even have a system where too long in an area and a miasma starts forming which if you don't leave immediately will give a fear toxin reaction that's milder than it would be to humans, but clearly still impacts him somewhat, digging up insecurities and old fears of being outed as an alien and having his parents and friends taken away by men in black.

Game ends with Superman finding Batman and convincing him to come join him as Gotham is pretty well covered by his kids. Obviously they'll all keep his secret and he can adopt a new hero identity publicly. Then you could even get world's finest DLC like the team up missions in Arkham Knight where Bruce is the scout and Clark is the muscle. Some things can only be taken out by Superman. Some can only be taken out by Batman. And you can switch between them at will

Edit for Nightwing's name being flagged as dirty lol

While i don't take issue with your idea, i think after the 4 games they would probably do well just going somewhere else completely fresh for a trilogy *maybe* in metropolis or middle earth, explore other Super villains, give them ideas, a break. And then Come back, again for another Gotham trilogy.

And Monolith could simultaneously do a DC Trilogy (They could have easily done Batman Beyond, rumour is they are now doing Wonder Woman.. wonder why lmao) and then come back to Middle Earth Trilogy.

That way you rotation them, remove fan burnout, while still providing for your fans their themes (Gotham & Middle Earth respectively).

You would get your Batman with a Nemesis System twist, and Middle Earth / Superman would get a Arkham like red carpet with Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Lex Luther etc.

Another thing to note is they have Warner Bros. Montreal that had Batman Origins, they could also have done the Superman/Middle Earth Trilogy so you have 3 rotations doing three themes. Pumping out Games that make over half a billion in profit.

Instead they wanted to 'Be Defying'.

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by Meow:

While i don't take issue with your idea, i think after the 4 games they would probably do well just going somewhere else completely fresh for a trilogy *maybe* in metropolis or middle earth, explore other Super villains, give them ideas, a break. And then Come back, again for another Gotham trilogy.

And Monolith could simultaneously do a DC Trilogy (They could have easily done Batman Returns, rumour is they are now doing Wonder Woman.. wonder why lmao) and then come back to Middle Earth Trilogy.

That way you rotation them, remove fan burnout, while still providing for your fans their themes (Gotham & Middle Earth respectively).

You would get your Batman with a Nemesis System twist, and Middle Earth / Superman would get a Arkham like red carpet with Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Lex Luther etc.

Another thing to note is they have Warner Bros. Montreal that had Batman Origins, they could also have done the Superman/Middle Earth Trilogy so you have 3 rotations doing three themes.

It is very important to be realistic that most DC properties and settings do not sell because people are not interested in them. DC genuinely has batman and superman. That's really it.

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

It is very important to be realistic that most DC properties and settings do not sell because people are not interested in them. DC genuinely has batman and superman. That's really it.

The highest grossing DCEU film is Aquaman, with respectable 1.152 billion dollars in box office, while Batman v Superman didn't even made 900 million. If ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Aquaman can make this ammount of cash, then it is clear that the problem isn't character's popularity, but execution.

[Meow]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by Meow:

While i don't take issue with your idea, i think after the 4 games they would probably do well just going somewhere else completely fresh for a trilogy *maybe* in metropolis or middle earth, explore other Super villains, give them ideas, a break. And then Come back, again for another Gotham trilogy.

And Monolith could simultaneously do a DC Trilogy (They could have easily done Batman Returns, rumour is they are now doing Wonder Woman.. wonder why lmao) and then come back to Middle Earth Trilogy.

That way you rotation them, remove fan burnout, while still providing for your fans their themes (Gotham & Middle Earth respectively).

You would get your Batman with a Nemesis System twist, and Middle Earth / Superman would get a Arkham like red carpet with Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Lex Luther etc.

Another thing to note is they have Warner Bros. Montreal that had Batman Origins, they could also have done the Superman/Middle Earth Trilogy so you have 3 rotations doing three themes.

It is very important to be realistic that most DC properties and settings do not sell because people are not interested in them. DC genuinely has batman and superman. That's really it.

I mean hey,

Rocksteady can do a Action Adventure - Superman Trilogy.

Monolith can do a Adventure Action - Batman (Beyond) Trilogy.

Warner Bros. Montreal can do a - Middle Earth Trilogy.

And just rotate studios & themes ad infinitum pumping out over half a billion a game in profit. (if the studios weren't ruined that was)

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Meow:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Honestly, I had an idea about a prequel for this that would have been interesting.

Superman/Clark Kent investigating rumours of Bruce Wayne faking his death and a demon Bat haunting Gotham alleys. Where you can work with what remains of the batfamily (Maybe Tim's slowly starting to retire or quiet quit because his DLC showed that he'd rather be a family man than waste his honeymoon doing Robin work) (Nightwing is still active and having fun, he could be someone who after reaching unlocks more aerial takedowns and maneuvers since Clark is taking inspiration from him) (Jason would probably be the last one you'd win over, he's still all about Might makes right so some of your strongest attacks are used in missions relating to red hood. He could also be the one who points you in the right direction since he knows which alleys are haunted because he's so on the pulse of Gotham's criminal element)

Probably even have a system where too long in an area and a miasma starts forming which if you don't leave immediately will give a fear toxin reaction that's milder than it would be to humans, but clearly still impacts him somewhat, digging up insecurities and old fears of being outed as an alien and having his parents and friends taken away by men in black.

Game ends with Superman finding Batman and convincing him to come join him as Gotham is pretty well covered by his kids. Obviously they'll all keep his secret and he can adopt a new hero identity publicly. Then you could even get world's finest DLC like the team up missions in Arkham Knight where Bruce is the scout and Clark is the muscle. Some things can only be taken out by Superman. Some can only be taken out by Batman. And you can switch between them at will

Edit for Nightwing's name being flagged as dirty lol

While i don't take issue with your idea, i think after the 4 games they would probably do well just going somewhere else completely fresh for a trilogy *maybe* in metropolis or middle earth, explore other Super villains, give them ideas, a break. And then Come back, again for another Gotham trilogy.

And Monolith could simultaneously do a DC Trilogy (They could have easily done Batman Returns, rumour is they are now doing Wonder Woman.. wonder why lmao) and then come back to Middle Earth Trilogy.

That way you rotation them, remove fan burnout, while still providing for your fans their themes (Gotham & Middle Earth respectively).

You would get your Batman with a Nemesis System twist, and Middle Earth / Superman would get a Arkham like red carpet with Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Lex Luther etc.

Another thing to note is they have Warner Bros. Montreal that had Batman Origins, they could also have done the Superman/Middle Earth Trilogy so you have 3 rotations doing three themes. Pumping out Games that make over half a billion in profit.

Instead they wanted to 'Be Defying'.

Oh no, I'm not married to that idea either! I'd much rather Arkham either stop, focus on prequels or follow the batfamily rather than bring Superman into it.
I really want a Superman game. But I'd much rather he get his own game with his own enemies and friends.

A Superman game without Jimmy or the Kents would be a major let down.

I am excited for the wonder woman game though. Like really annoyingly excited, trying to tamper it down so I don't get too hyped and let down. I'd rather have low expectations and be blown away than high expectations and be disappointed.

Monolith I think would do a better Wonderwoman game than rocksteady could have. Since Selina's whip was annoying and she'd probably only do a mix of that and the batclaw take down move with her lasso.

I don't know what studio I trust to do a Superman game.... I suppose the team that made infamous lmao

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

It is very important to be realistic that most DC properties and settings do not sell because people are not interested in them. DC genuinely has batman and superman. That's really it.

The highest grossing DCEU film is Aquaman, with respectable 1.152 billion dollars in box office, while Batman v Superman didn't even made 900 million. If ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Aquaman can make this ammount of cash, then it is clear that the problem isn't character's popularity, but execution.

Irrelevant, came at the height of superhero movie spending by the public. Captain Marvel made that much money too and is a horrible movie that nobody remembers or likes. Nobody talks about or cares about Aquaman, people still talk about and care about Keaton Batman. Success isn't simply measured by sales, very tone deaf corporate executive thinking that has leaked into the public sphere.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by Dork_Stalker_310:

The highest grossing DCEU film is Aquaman, with respectable 1.152 billion dollars in box office, while Batman v Superman didn't even made 900 million. If ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Aquaman can make this ammount of cash, then it is clear that the problem isn't character's popularity, but execution.

Irrelevant, came at the height of superhero movie spending by the public. Captain Marvel made that much money too and is a horrible movie that nobody remembers or likes. Nobody talks about or cares about Aquaman, people still talk about and care about Keaton Batman. Success isn't simply measured by sales, very tone deaf corporate executive thinking that has leaked into the public sphere.

No, I think execution is the main thing too. Aquaman and Shazam while very mid aren't despised as much as Superman vs Batman was

[Swamp Fox]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Irrelevant, came at the height of superhero movie spending by the public. Captain Marvel made that much money too and is a horrible movie that nobody remembers or likes. Nobody talks about or cares about Aquaman, people still talk about and care about Keaton Batman. Success isn't simply measured by sales, very tone deaf corporate executive thinking that has leaked into the public sphere.

No, I think execution is the main thing too. Aquaman and Shazam while very mid aren't despised as much as Superman vs Batman was

Aquaman's numbers are a function of the time period in which Aquaman was released. Period. It rode the wave of Endgame, so to speak

[Dork_Stalker_310]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Irrelevant, came at the height of superhero movie spending by the public. Captain Marvel made that much money too and is a horrible movie that nobody remembers or likes. Nobody talks about or cares about Aquaman, people still talk about and care about Keaton Batman. Success isn't simply measured by sales, very tone deaf corporate executive thinking that has leaked into the public sphere.

I'm not saying that Aquaman was a fantastic movie, I'm saying that it was a financially successful movie. A more succesful movie than the one involving two out of three DC's most popular characters. And yes, success is absolutely and undeniably measured by money. Quality isn't - but success definitely is.

Also, no offence, but I think about the same amount of people “still talk and care about Keaton's Batman” as ones who do the same about Aquaman.

[Meow]

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Originally posted by Meow:

While i don't take issue with your idea, i think after the 4 games they would probably do well just going somewhere else completely fresh for a trilogy *maybe* in metropolis or middle earth, explore other Super villains, give them ideas, a break. And then Come back, again for another Gotham trilogy.

And Monolith could simultaneously do a DC Trilogy (They could have easily done Batman Returns, rumour is they are now doing Wonder Woman.. wonder why lmao) and then come back to Middle Earth Trilogy.

That way you rotation them, remove fan burnout, while still providing for your fans their themes (Gotham & Middle Earth respectively).

You would get your Batman with a Nemesis System twist, and Middle Earth / Superman would get a Arkham like red carpet with Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Lex Luther etc.

Another thing to note is they have Warner Bros. Montreal that had Batman Origins, they could also have done the Superman/Middle Earth Trilogy so you have 3 rotations doing three themes. Pumping out Games that make over half a billion in profit.

Instead they wanted to 'Be Defying'.

Oh no, I'm not married to that idea either! I'd much rather Arkham either stop, focus on prequels or follow the batfamily rather than bring Superman into it.
I really want a Superman game. But I'd much rather he get his own game with his own enemies and friends.

A Superman game without Jimmy or the Kents would be a major let down.

I am excited for the wonder woman game though. Like really annoyingly excited, trying to tamper it down so I don't get too hyped and let down. I'd rather have low expectations and be blown away than high expectations and be disappointed.

Monolith I think would do a better Wonderwoman game than rocksteady could have. Since Selina's whip was annoying and she'd probably only do a mix of that and the batclaw take down move with her lasso.

I don't know what studio I trust to do a Superman game.... I suppose the team that made infamous lmao

Yeah that's what i'm thinking too, i made a mistake meant to say (arkham not gotham) If Monolith is still Monolith i think Wonder Woman would do well with them, just be aware the 'Woke elements' may be high lol.

They could still have Done this,

Monolith can do their style - Wonder Woman Trilogy.

Rocksteady can do their style - Superman Trilogy.

Warner Bros. Montreal can do their Origins style - Batman (Beyond) Trilogy.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Meow:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

Oh no, I'm not married to that idea either! I'd much rather Arkham either stop, focus on prequels or follow the batfamily rather than bring Superman into it.
I really want a Superman game. But I'd much rather he get his own game with his own enemies and friends.

A Superman game without Jimmy or the Kents would be a major let down.

I am excited for the wonder woman game though. Like really annoyingly excited, trying to tamper it down so I don't get too hyped and let down. I'd rather have low expectations and be blown away than high expectations and be disappointed.

Monolith I think would do a better Wonderwoman game than rocksteady could have. Since Selina's whip was annoying and she'd probably only do a mix of that and the batclaw take down move with her lasso.

I don't know what studio I trust to do a Superman game.... I suppose the team that made infamous lmao

Yeah that's what i'm thinking too, i made a mistake meant to say (arkham not gotham) If Monolith is still Monolith i think Wonder Woman would do well with them, just be aware the 'Woke elements' may be high lol.

I'm not really keyed in on politics but hey Wonder Woman was always kinda feminist, as long as she's still herself and embodies the spirit of justice and truth I'll be more than happy!

As long as she's fair, because as much as she was all for women's rights she didn't put down men and was extremely critical of misandry among her people.

[unholyghost842]

Originally posted by Swamp Fox:

Originally posted by unholyghost842:

No, I think execution is the main thing too. Aquaman and Shazam while very mid aren't despised as much as Superman vs Batman was

Aquaman's numbers are a function of the time period in which Aquaman was released. Period. It rode the wave of Endgame, so to speak

If a booster gold film came out tomorrow and was great, it would sell better from word of mouth than a batman done horribly