Wokeness didn't ruin gaming, you're just victimizing your ideology.

[Kodeir]

You know who was closer to "woke"? Batman. He believed in reforming criminals, never killing unless - absolutely - necessary, and always endeavoring to finding an alternative solution. Batman doesn't believe in hoarding wealth, he invests into his community and distributes his inheritance to spreading a message of philanthropy - while also creating jobs. Batman is anti-guns. Batman is anti-discrimination. Batman is pro-vaccination and inoculation when concerning imminent danger to public health.

He never married, had a child out of wedlock, and fought against the corruption of the police. His most iconic actor was a "woke" gay man.

Batman is nothing like you. To be honest, he isn't like any of us. He is supposed to be the best of us all, while also struggling with his own trauma and own moral issues.

You tinfoils never understood the message, and you're cowards for hiding from it.

[Starry]

Nguyên văn bởi Kodeir:

"I dont know if he is trolling or serious but I can tell you this. they felt the need to put gay and trans pride flags all over this game so they dont get my money ."

That sounds as stupid as someone walking out of a movie because a character has a faith, or a culture, or anything not specifically aligned to their personal belief. If you're a coward, that's on you.

"Batman didnt have a Kid out of Wedlock, he was Raped. How does anyone in their right mind try and put a Positive Spin on what Talia did to him."

I just forgot that Talia drugged Batman, it's been like... 15 years?

It's not your money or choice now is it?
If someone wants to spend their hard-earned money on something else, then more power to them.

[James]

Nguyên văn bởi Kodeir:

You must have missed the "he is the best of us all" as in the unification of the social ideal, and doesn't uniquely belong to "woke" or "conservative" values. There is a reason I'm putting woke into quotations, because its your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ word for people who concern themselves with the maximal inclusion and care of others.

Ain't our word. We were just using it to mock people who willingly anointed it to themselves.

Not our fault it stuck.

Also the opposite to conservative is progressive.
The opposite to woke is chud.
They're not interchangeable terms and this thread would be a whole hell of a lot less confusing if you didn't treat them as such.

But I imagine that confusion was precisely the point of the smokescreen narrative you tried to erect.

Although, come to think of it, batman quite literally fits the humanoid underground dweller part of the CHUD acronym...And he'd probably be fine with criminals thinking he's a cannibal too.

[Biotic Geth Prime]

"I just forgot that Talia drugged Batman, it's been like... 15 years?"

Actually, it was first published (Son of the Demon), in the mid 80s.

I should know, since Im on my fifth decade, and read it when it was first published. Unlike some people who werent even born back then, but think they can lecture others on what Batman is.

[Biotic Geth Prime]

"Batman is, however, adjacent to the values you associate to "woke". I think you should learn to participate in a society moving past the weakness of your character, and stop pretending that you're safekeeping the integrity of storytelling when you've clearly missed its central themes."

And blablabla. Change with us, or else...?

Because everyone who does not agree with you, and does not feel like being lectured by a videogame, is evil.

[pr1mus]

superhero's are cringe the only appealing part of this game is that you get to kill them.

[unholyghost842]

Nguyên văn bởi Wölki:

Batman killed quite a lot of people depending on the era of comics you consume. In the 80/90. Version he definitely offed several enemies in the comic books

Truth. In the 80s when Jason (pre-retcon) asked why he doesn't kill more because he has killed his counter was "Only in self defence"


Speaking of Jason, Modern Batman for sure killed him in Under the Red Hood. He didn't even kick or gurgle or react beyond bleeding out at an alarming rate. So Bruce did 100% just kill him. Dropped like a sack of potatoes

[Cheeodon]

I just want to point out. Woke isn't a reference to people who care for diversity and inclusion, at least not the people who truly care about this and are working to write good characters and stories involving these people to make them stand on their own two feet and produce characters people love.

*Woke* is specifically in reference to activists who put a political statement above all else, and force its inclusion in everything they can get their hands on. Its a reference to psychotic purple-haired lunatics who have an absolute melt-down if you misgender them by *Accident*, its a reference to people who push the "all cis-white-males are evil and need to be talked down to and treated like ♥♥♥♥" idea that we're seeing all too commonly today, or the extreme-pro-feminism idea of today of perfect female characters that cant make any mistakes and are stronger in every way than their male counter parts. They make forgettable characters, forgettable stories, meant to piss, ♥♥♥♥, and stomp on things people loved, people have been building for decades, then go "Your an ist, phobe, ism, for not liking these forced, poorly written changes on OUR characters, they're not YOURS anymore.", of a bunch of franchises that have only survived this long *due* to fans like us keeping them alive, for better or worse.

Diversity is fine, inclusion is fine. People arent inherently against either of those. People are inherently against a message, a fake one at that, being violently rammed down their throats with a stick while destroying franchises they may have devoted 20, 30, 40+ years of their lives too, franchise *They've* supported for decades, worked with other fans to keep alive for decades, just to see everything torn apart by people who aren't fans. And I have to stress these people *arent* fans, if you need to change something to fit your view and your way of life, you aren't a fan of it.

[Shadow]

Boycott everything that promotes their ideology.

[unholyghost842]

Nguyên văn bởi Alice Ó Súileabháin:

I just want to point out. Woke isn't a reference to people who care for diversity and inclusion, at least not the people who truly care about this and are working to write good characters and stories involving these people to make them stand on their own two feet and produce characters people love.

*Woke* is specifically in reference to activists who put a political statement above all else, and force its inclusion in everything they can get their hands on. Its a reference to psychotic purple-haired lunatics who have an absolute melt-down if you misgender them by *Accident*, its a reference to people who push the "all cis-white-males are evil and need to be talked down to and treated like ♥♥♥♥" idea that we're seeing all too commonly today, or the extreme-pro-feminism idea of today of perfect female characters that cant make any mistakes and are stronger in every way than their male counter parts. They make forgettable characters, forgettable stories, meant to piss, ♥♥♥♥, and stomp on things people loved, people have been building for decades, then go "Your an ist, phobe, ism, for not liking these forced, poorly written changes on OUR characters, they're not YOURS anymore.", of a bunch of franchises that have only survived this long *due* to fans like us keeping them alive, for better or worse.

Diversity is fine, inclusion is fine. People arent inherently against either of those. People are inherently against a message, a fake one at that, being violently rammed down their throats with a stick while destroying franchises they may have devoted 20, 30, 40+ years of their lives too, franchise *They've* supported for decades, worked with other fans to keep alive for decades, just to see everything torn apart by people who aren't fans. And I have to stress these people *arent* fans, if you need to change something to fit your view and your way of life, you aren't a fan of it.

Nice, a fellow Irish woman who gets it.

Although you're probably wasting your breath, they know exactly what you mean. They're just playing up their ignorance, hoping you're not eloquent enough to explain to anyone watching

[FRISH]

The irony is that you outright display the subversion that many of us are against.

[whereswarren]

Nguyên văn bởi Kodeir:

You know who was closer to "woke"? Batman. He believed in reforming criminals, never killing unless - absolutely - necessary, and always endeavoring to finding an alternative solution. Batman doesn't believe in hoarding wealth, he invests into his community and distributes his inheritance to spreading a message of philanthropy - while also creating jobs. Batman is anti-guns. Batman is anti-discrimination. Batman is pro-vaccination and inoculation when concerning imminent danger to public health.

He never married, had a child out of wedlock, and fought against the corruption of the police. His most iconic actor was a "woke" gay man.

Batman is nothing like you. To be honest, he isn't like any of us. He is supposed to be the best of us all, while also struggling with his own trauma and own moral issues.

You tinfoils never understood the message, and you're cowards for hiding from it.

This is some top tier MESSAGE dissemination right here.

[James]

Funny how OP got a whole bunch of positive awards simultaneously, all at once, but only one of each except for the clowns.


This guy was dead on. The astroturfing of this game is just...transparently desperate.

[𝙹𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚎𝚛]

You know exactly what people are complaining about, conjuring up strawmen to cement the caricatures of people you have in your mind for brownie points online won't take away from the problems plaguing media right now. Some of you don't have the self awareness to realise that what you're writing and worshipping is Patricia Bateman.

[RuleofTwo]

Nguyên văn bởi RuleofTwo:

Explain sweet baby incs purpose

[Rec]

Nguyên văn bởi Kodeir:

You know who was closer to "woke"? Batman. He believed in reforming criminals, never killing unless - absolutely - necessary, and always endeavoring to finding an alternative solution. Batman doesn't believe in hoarding wealth, he invests into his community and distributes his inheritance to spreading a message of philanthropy - while also creating jobs. Batman is anti-guns. Batman is anti-discrimination. Batman is pro-vaccination and inoculation when concerning imminent danger to public health.

He never married, had a child out of wedlock, and fought against the corruption of the police. His most iconic actor was a "woke" gay man.

Batman is nothing like you. To be honest, he isn't like any of us. He is supposed to be the best of us all, while also struggling with his own trauma and own moral issues.

You tinfoils never understood the message, and you're cowards for hiding from it.

Ok. Let's play this out.
Believed in reforming criminals. Yup. Locking them up in an asylum and beating them senseless on arrest. Very woke of Batman.

Finding an alternative solution isn't woke. It's smart. The very opposite of woke.

Doesn't believe in hoarding wealth does he? Yet somehow he manages to stay as one of the richest people in DC universe. Literally has a military division in his company that produces weapons for him and JL. You again mistake smart with woke.

He's not anti-guns, he literally fought Superman when he decided to go full tyrant over this. Being anti discrimination is the definition of a hero. Defend the ones that can't defend themselves. By saying against anti discrimination is woke I would point at The Punisher. He is pushing the anti discrimination to the absolute limit. One can't discriminate if one is dead.

If Batman is anything he is against tyranny, Of whatever type.
Child out of wedlock? You mean the child that was: born without his knowledge, abandoned by the mother after the mother lied to her father about a miscarriage? That is decent, not woke.
Fought against corruption of the police, did he? He also fought against Superman, the JL and many, many others. It wasn't who he was fighting it was what he was fighting. Tyranny. Which the woke crave and would gladly impose on anyone that disagrees with you.
You can't conceive what Batman is because of your woke lens on everything. This game shows very clearly what the woke think of Batman. From the horses mouth: "You had a good run Brucie. Flying around Gotham punchin' bad guys, cleanin' up the streets, causin' long term mental and emotional damage to everyone you knew." You are not fooling anyone. There was a 1000 ways to end this game. They chose the one where Harley rants how much damage Batman did. Should we forget the absolute disgrace they reserved for the Flash?