Did Wokeness/Feminism make Rocksteady/Sweet Baby Inc fail?

[Vivi d’Arc]

civil discussion

[Korinth]

Originally posted by X32 Jno:

Originally posted by Hahli:

BL3 was ♥♥♥♥ tho, first borderlands I never finished myself. Gameplay is awesome but the rest... worst than ever urgh.
Tiny Tina stand alone made kinda a flop I think ?
And then even killed the Telltale version with New Tales from the borderlands... which totally flopped.
It's worse and worse everytime.

yes, everyone hates ava, but the game sold, and i still had 100+ hours in it, i just have to "ignore" certain aspects of the game. If they made a BL4 with Ava as "the Siren", 70dollars? 100dollars Early access, i'd buy it. Very few IP has me on the hook like that. Spinoffs are different, i thought about buying tiny tina for 20bucks, but nah, never even thought about buying new tales.

Well that's it, you have to "ignore it" until you can't anymore.
They will push it into your throat further and further until you can't stand it anymore.
New Tales from Borderlands was the pic of that too.

[BoogieWoogie]

Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

Sweet Baby Inc

Who hired them do you think? Did they just break in and start working and no one asked them to leave?

Ed: in fact, I wonder if the entire company is just a decoy to draw away blame from rabid gamers. Man, what a great conspiracy theory.

Don't know who brought them in. I am sure it is reason the main creators behind the game actually left behind the Arkham Series.

This isn't the first time Sweet Baby Inc ruined a game. Look at the company Minimi(sp) that made Shadow Gambit. They went into bankruptcy after Sweet Baby Inc had a hand in their game.
https://archive.ph/Wk9MW

[BlackLabel]

boring...

[SPY123]

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

Originally posted by Doctor Zalgo:

Who hired them do you think? Did they just break in and start working and no one asked them to leave?

Ed: in fact, I wonder if the entire company is just a decoy to draw away blame from rabid gamers. Man, what a great conspiracy theory.

Don't know who brought them in. I am sure it is reason the main creators behind the game actually left behind the Arkham Series.

This isn't the first time Sweet Baby Inc ruined a game. Look at the company Minimi(sp) that made Shadow Gambit. They went into bankruptcy after Sweet Baby Inc had a hand in their game.
https://archive.ph/Wk9MW

source for bancruptcy? official massage on mimimi's website shows diffrent reason https://www.mimimi.games/our-final-game/

[BoogieWoogie]

Originally posted by SPY123:

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

Don't know who brought them in. I am sure it is reason the main creators behind the game actually left behind the Arkham Series.

This isn't the first time Sweet Baby Inc ruined a game. Look at the company Minimi(sp) that made Shadow Gambit. They went into bankruptcy after Sweet Baby Inc had a hand in their game.
https://archive.ph/Wk9MW

source for bancruptcy? official massage on mimimi's website shows diffrent reason https://www.mimimi.games/our-final-game/

They closed down two weeks after they released Shadow Gambit featuring a 'strong black woman.'

[SPY123]

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

Originally posted by SPY123:

source for bancruptcy? official massage on mimimi's website shows diffrent reason https://www.mimimi.games/our-final-game/

They closed down two weeks after they released Shadow Gambit featuring a 'strong black woman.'

once again source? They didn't closed down after 2 weeks. They released 2 dlc in december when the game came out in september.

a qoute from the massage

"While this means that we won’t start production on a new big game, we will continue to fully support Shadow Gambit. We are already working on a patch across all platforms and have a big content drop planned for later this year, which we are sure you will love just as much as we do!

This also means we will be slowly ramping down the studio over the next few months. We shared this decision with the whole team at an on-site meeting before releasing this announcement.

We will be doing everything in our power to support our team, and we are now starting to reach out to our friends in the industry to find suitable new jobs for all Mimimis. If you have open positions and are interested in hiring our amazing talents, please get in touch via [e-mail].

Thanks to the recent launch of Shadow Gambit, we are also able to pay out a bonus to all employees to help them during their transition."

[Trevor Reznik]

When you create your company out of hate/out of spite that is a very bad place to start from. I seriously hope they fail and the sooner they go bankrupt the better.

[BoogieWoogie]

Originally posted by SPY123:

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

They closed down two weeks after they released Shadow Gambit featuring a 'strong black woman.'

once again source? They didn't closed down after 2 weeks. They released 2 dlc in december when the game came out in september.

a qoute from the massage

"While this means that we won’t start production on a new big game, we will continue to fully support Shadow Gambit. We are already working on a patch across all platforms and have a big content drop planned for later this year, which we are sure you will love just as much as we do!

This also means we will be slowly ramping down the studio over the next few months. We shared this decision with the whole team at an on-site meeting before releasing this announcement.

We will be doing everything in our power to support our team, and we are now starting to reach out to our friends in the industry to find suitable new jobs for all Mimimis. If you have open positions and are interested in hiring our amazing talents, please get in touch via [e-mail].

Thanks to the recent launch of Shadow Gambit, we are also able to pay out a bonus to all employees to help them during their transition."

They announced their depature 14 days after the game was released. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/mimimi-games-shutting-down
Shadow Gambit came out August 17th and that is August 29 that someone brings it up.

Also Shadow Gambit was not well received in its sells.
https://gamalytic.com/game/1545560 Roughly 86K is a major hit.

Furthermore, the company was already teetering on bankruptcy before they released Shadow Tactics years ago.

"Mimimi Games has been making games for twelve years now. But let’s be real: Most of you have never heard of us before we released Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun in 2016, which revived the real-time tactics genre. Although we came close to bankruptcy, the investment paid off in the end. This summer, we released Desperados III for PC and consoles together with THQ Nordic. It is a prequel to the classic real-time tactics genre hit Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive. "
https://www.mimimi.games/the-future-of-mimimi-games/

Shadow Tactics also help secured them with over mil sales https://gamalytic.com/game/418240 on steam to save them from bankruptcy then

Compared to their other decently known game like Desperados III with over 300k sells on Steam alone https://gamalytic.com/game/610370

Though Shadow Gambit wasn't well received on launch so they may of released only a little additional content for it, but the game was dead on arrival. But I guess depends what you consider a major success. Some people say 100k to 250k is a good figure for Indie companies on their game releases.

[emahi011]

Eve ate the apple.

[Savager]

Maybe a little, but the game failed bcs of live service bs. Only bcs of that the game has 3 missions as endgame.

[Buurt]

Adding a pride flag = game fails because of wokeness.

people like you have to be like the biggest idiots of modern day gaming

[BlackSunEmpire]

Im calling it right now, the next ultra woke games will be:

- Control 2 (Remedy)
- Horizon 3 (Guerrilla Games)
- the next God of War (Santa Monica Studios)
- Star Wars Outlaws (Massive Entertainment)
- Resident Evil 9 (after what happend to Street Fighter 6)
- TLOU 3 (Naughty Dog)

[BoogieWoogie]

Originally posted by BlackSunEmpire:

Im calling it right now, the next ultra woke games will be:

- Control 2 (Remedy)
- Horizon 3 (Guerrilla Games)
- the next God of War (Santa Monica Studios)
- Star Wars Outlaws (Massive Entertainment)
- Resident Evil 9 (after what happend to Street Fighter 6)
- TLOU 3 (Naughty Dog)

GTA6

[SPY123]

Originally posted by BoogieWoogie:

Originally posted by SPY123:

once again source? They didn't closed down after 2 weeks. They released 2 dlc in december when the game came out in september.

a qoute from the massage

"While this means that we won’t start production on a new big game, we will continue to fully support Shadow Gambit. We are already working on a patch across all platforms and have a big content drop planned for later this year, which we are sure you will love just as much as we do!

This also means we will be slowly ramping down the studio over the next few months. We shared this decision with the whole team at an on-site meeting before releasing this announcement.

We will be doing everything in our power to support our team, and we are now starting to reach out to our friends in the industry to find suitable new jobs for all Mimimis. If you have open positions and are interested in hiring our amazing talents, please get in touch via [e-mail].

Thanks to the recent launch of Shadow Gambit, we are also able to pay out a bonus to all employees to help them during their transition."

They announced their depature 14 days after the game was released. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/mimimi-games-shutting-down
Shadow Gambit came out August 17th and that is August 29 that someone brings it up.

Also Shadow Gambit was not well received in its sells.
https://gamalytic.com/game/1545560 Roughly 86K is a major hit.

Furthermore, the company was already teetering on bankruptcy before they released Shadow Tactics years ago.

"Mimimi Games has been making games for twelve years now. But let’s be real: Most of you have never heard of us before we released Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun in 2016, which revived the real-time tactics genre. Although we came close to bankruptcy, the investment paid off in the end. This summer, we released Desperados III for PC and consoles together with THQ Nordic. It is a prequel to the classic real-time tactics genre hit Desperados: Wanted Dead or Alive. "
https://www.mimimi.games/the-future-of-mimimi-games/

Shadow Tactics also help secured them with over mil sales https://gamalytic.com/game/418240 on steam to save them from bankruptcy then

Compared to their other decently known game like Desperados III with over 300k sells on Steam alone https://gamalytic.com/game/610370

Though Shadow Gambit wasn't well received on launch so they may of released only a little additional content for it, but the game was dead on arrival. But I guess depends what you consider a major success. Some people say 100k to 250k is a good figure for Indie companies on their game releases.

1 sorry for wrong release month. english is only my secondary language

2 closing down and announcing to close down are two diffrent things.

3 The problem with sales was most likely marketing since they became self published as pointed in your third link. Many people didn't even knew that the game released. Lunch trailer for desperados 3 has 153k views + multiple ads with 2-3 milions of views while shadow gambit lunch trailer has 43k views and most popular ad has 267k views.

edit By ad I ment a video with suspiciously low likes to views proportions which most likely means an ad

4 To add what was your comment about 'strong black woman' supposed to mean?

[turvarya]

That anybody even assumes such nonsense is already a problem. People wanted a single player game as a successor of another single player game. They decided to make it a live service game and at that a bad one.
There are enough reviewers out there, pointing at the problems of this game, without any mentioning of "wokeness".
Does anybody believe, if they didn't introduce the rainbow flag and some more diverse characters, it would have been a good game? (Besides the usual nutjobs)