Why are people so mad about Batman? *Spoilers*

[Slayrix]

It doesn't make sense why so many people are mad about this, like I understand you are disappointed seeing one of your beloved characters die off, but to be mad and say that this makes no sense writing wise and it should've never happened and that it is not lore accurate is just wrong, even when looking at previous arkham lore.

This is all coming from someone who has extensively enjoyed the arkham games I've played all of them from origins to knight, hell they practically made up an entire part of my childhood, but eventually the time always comes to move on and that is what is happening here.

Here is my explanation for how Batman's death remains lore accurate. If we think back in the arkham games, batman getting captured is no new thing to him. In arkham city batman is captured by joker and is injected by his infected blood. In a smaller incident Bruce Wayne is captured by mercenaries in the beginning of arkham city as well. In arkham knight batman is captured by scarecrow and his entire identity is revealed. The fact is in these cases the villains were simply toying with Batman. So knowing all this, him getting captured by the suicide squad, a literal team of villains, is no surprise since as we have seen before in other arkham games, batman is susceptible to getting captured.

Then there is the head shot, which I would say remains pretty lore accurate, I mean batman is just a guy after all, no super powers or anything like that, he's just rich, so a bullet to the head would definitely do him in. As for why none of the other villains just killed him while he was in capture, like stated before they just wanted to toy with him, in this case though the suicide squad is done, they are determined to complete their mission, if that means putting a bullet in some rich guys head then so be it. All in all I think his death remains quite lore accurate so to say otherwise just seems wrong. If you disagree, oh well, you can keep coping but the fact is what is written is written and it's not changing.

[Yeshalot]

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

[Mixedbeats18]

Theres more scenes dont gonna spoil it, but yeah conroy is gone keep that in mind

[Sunsetter]

I know, it's strange.
It's almost like some people dont like their favorite heroes being figuratively and literally pissed on, especially in their last performance.

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

I already responded to you in your own post so I will not talk with you here as I don't want to have two conversation with the same guy going on in two different places

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by Mixedbeats18:

Theres more scenes dont gonna spoil it, but yeah conroy is gone keep that in mind

I mean yeah obviously he is gone, he's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dead...

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by Samael:

I know, it's strange.
It's almost like some people dont like their favorite heroes being figuratively and literally pissed on, especially in their last performance.

I just don't see how people can see this as them pissing on his character when it's literally all lore accurate, you are all just upset because he died and i don't think that is a great reason to be upset, writers should be able to kill off whatever characters they want in any way they want as long as it makes sense to the story, which in this case I have proved that it does.

[Mixedbeats18]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Originally posted by Mixedbeats18:

Theres more scenes dont gonna spoil it, but yeah conroy is gone keep that in mind

I mean yeah obviously he is gone, he's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dead...

Good to know this one is the easiest to get, enjoy the game if you into that

[Yeshalot]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

I already responded to you in your own post so I will not talk with you here as I don't want to have two conversation with the same guy going on in two different places

i deleted it, respond to that comment

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

Well since I now see you delete your thread I would happily answer you here, please give us any specific examples in the arkham games where they establish the fact that this batman has contingencies for everything, because as far as I am aware that is just false and was never established and is just made up lore for this batman.

[Jake Deviant]

I thought he died in Arkham Knight with the whole Dark Knight Protocol? I'm confused can someone help me understand?

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by JakeDeviant:

I thought he died in Arkham Knight with the whole Dark Knight Protocol? I'm confused can someone help me understand?

I guess he faked his death or something because honestly I thought the same thing

[Slayrix]

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

Also you seem so upset that "normal" people took out batman, but batman is also just a "normal" person, no super powers, he just has money, everything else he has was just trained, nothing superhuman about it, so a 3v1 all against "normal" people I would bet the team with 3 would win.

[Yeshalot]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

Well since I now see you delete your thread I would happily answer you here, please give us any specific examples in the arkham games where they establish the fact that this batman has contingencies for everything, because as far as I am aware that is just false and was never established and is just made up lore for this batman.

"made up lore for this batman" that's literally what batman is, a super detective who always has a plan for the worse.

just because arkham batman got swindled a few times doesn't mean one of the main traits of batman is ruined. literally one of the only ways he's able to keep up and stay in the fights is through his constant preparation and strategies.

if batman was a moron who just punched people and never thought ahead its not his character. (year 1/earlier batman sure)

this is the batman who beat an entire army that was trained and prepped for killing him and all the other super hero villains he had to beat in like the span of 8 hours. and he loses to people with guns and never has a moment of realization of his horrors before he goes out? just got with a revolver somehow dropping a shell casing and the fact that his head isn't spilled all over the floor?

again: the writing is ♥♥♥♥.

[Jake Deviant]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Originally posted by JakeDeviant:

I thought he died in Arkham Knight with the whole Dark Knight Protocol? I'm confused can someone help me understand?

I guess he faked his death or something because honestly I thought the same thing

I suppose we could just say this one is Hush because Wayne Manor blowing up left me with the feeling Wayne died.

[Yeshalot]

Originally posted by Slayrix:

Originally posted by Yeshalot:

"it's pretty lore accurate" she shoots him with a revolver and you hear the shell casing hit the ground... that's not how revolvers work.

so right off the bat the guns make no sense.

batman always has a contingency plan, that's just his character, so the fact that there's no showcasing of that in any way shape or form is lame. no message after his death? no sudden and random revelation that even tho he was evil, batman planned for something like this?

the fact that there's no remorse or glimpse of batman realizing the horrors that he's committed before his death is weak as hell and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ way to go.

If we can believe 3 normal humans and a shark dude were able to shoot the justice league to death, I think they can stretch it to where batmans will power allows him a final moment of reflection before his death.

and he killed tim drake... and there's no payoff for that? no realization of the horrors he's commited? no slight moment of redemption? he's just gone like that?

nah this game is written terribly.

Also you seem so upset that "normal" people took out batman, but batman is also just a "normal" person, no super powers, he just has money, everything else he has was just trained, nothing superhuman about it, so a 3v1 all against "normal" people I would bet the team with 3 would win.

nope don't care if he loses to them, but it needs to make sense with the previous lore that was established. batman is leagues ahead of these guys even if they team up.

same with every other super hero. I'm all for killing them off in spectacular and cruel ways but it needs to be written well.