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Truc_douteux Nov 20, 2019 @ 11:02pm
"The Saint" and "The Monster" achievements
Hello,

Could somebody enlight me about these 2 achievements?
I tried several combinations during different runs to try to get "The Monster" first, assuming if I could figure out how to unlock it, I'll just do the opposite to achieve "The Saint".
Problem is, I ran out of ideas...

Here is my check list of evil deeds done :
- I executed every prisoneers as soon as it was possible.
- I distrusted the blind messager and executed him after his confession about the trap.
- I let Faramud slaughter and loot each city.
- I also let the silent legion execute the fishermen villagers when Faramlud asked for that.
- the companions Naurim, Takate and Zereb-something were present when Cassia accessed to the throne and I executed them all.
- when ruling as a Kyria, I raised the taxes, built a hideous statue of Cassia, and forbid the mariage as a new law.

Could somedy who unlocked these achievements tell us the exact requirements?
It seems very demanding and the descritpion is too unaccurate!

Thank you if you answer!
Last edited by Truc_douteux; Nov 20, 2019 @ 11:03pm
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AwakenOne2010 Nov 23, 2019 @ 11:14am 
I had the same problem as you. I did everything evil and also did NOT do any evil in another playthrough BUT no matter what, I just couldn't get the "The Saint" and "The Monster" achievements.

Considering your evil deeds list, I would have thought you should have got the "The Monster" achievement.
Truc_douteux Nov 23, 2019 @ 1:27pm 
My God,I just got "The Monster" on a desperate last attempt now!

I did everything as followed here :

- executed every prisoneers as soon as it was possible.
- distrusted the blind messager and executed him after his confession about the trap.
- I let Faramud slaughter and loot each city.
- I also let the silent legion execute the fishermen villagers when Faramlud asked for that.
- I always chose "the power", "there's no why" or other replies like that, implying always negative and cruel thoughts.
- I pushed Naurim as far as possible to kill Zurbaran by telling him he was responsible for Niobe's attack.
- I didn't tell Zurbaran to mistrust Naurim after that.
- I kept Cassia's sister, Myra, away from Takate and told her to stay away every time. Takate didn't jump for her in the end either.
- the companions Naurim and Takate were presents when Cassia accessed to the throne and I executed them.

When ruling as a Kyria for the day, and that's VERY IMPORTANT because it made the difference
in the end, what I did :
- I built prisons, catacombs, a triumph arch, and a statue of Cassia with her hideous face.
- I organized a military march.
- I strenghtened Mengbilla's army in every ways possible.
- I raised the taxes.
- I created a law to strenghten the Power, and to abolish mariage.

CLING! Trophy "The Monster" finallly popped!
Now let's go for "The Saint".
I only hope doing the exact opposite will be just fine...
Truc_douteux Nov 25, 2019 @ 5:47am 
Well, I did the exact opposite :

- Liberated every prisonners.
- Freed the blind messenger.
- Stopped Faramud about every slaughters possible.
- Chose good answers.
- Calmed Naurim about his family, and didn't betray Zurbaran.
- Send Zurbaran with Niobe, they felt in love together.
- Kept Miraï and Takate together, Takate jumped and saved her in the end.
- I saved Miraï by pertifying Marwan in the end.
- Naurim and Zurbaran were present at my throne, I gave 1 Gold to Zurbaran, and Naurim told me his father's name.
- Gave money for school, orphenage, and victims of war.
- made laws against slavery, poison preparation and chimeras studies.

Well I did all these I even tried some variations about constructions, or gave money to the guard, spend time with Miraï, and so and so...

NOTHING seems to work to unlock "The Saint".
I'm stuck for good.



"It's so silent here, that's strange. I'm going to sleep now, at last" - Me, last words, nov 2019.
:steambored:
must-not-named Dec 31, 2019 @ 6:51am 
Hallo,

Mein Weg to the Saint,

habe nur folgende Ortschaften aufgesucht in dieser Reihenfolge:
Heldenrain, Festung Sirik, Lorfas, Ruinen von Barankal, Zollfestung Akisa, El‘Halem, Cuoris, Mengbilla, Dujar, Höhe des Druiden, Adamants Feste, Akropolis des Tykates, alle anderen Ortschaften hätten nur meine Gier befriedigt ;)

Ich habe keine flüchtenden Feinde verfolgt und keine Truhen geöffnet, auch auftauchende Kuriere habe ich am Leben gelassen. Mit Faramud nicht geplündert. Nichts angezündet was nicht nötig gewesen sein musste. Naurim zum Famielienfreund gemacht und Zurbaran auch nicht verraten. Die Katapulte nicht ausgelöst (0/6), um die Mauern nicht zu zerstören(alle Feinde getötet, bis auf den Kurier). Zurbaran und Niobe auch zusammen gebracht.

Jeden Gefangenen freigelassen, auch den Blinden. Alle Verhöre mit Absicht platzen lassen. Mirai und Takate zusammen gebracht und Takate nach Mirai springen lassen.

Ich habe Mirai am Ende NICHT gerettet, weil ich nicht wusste, das ich Marwan versteinern lassen muss und ihn somit getötet habe. Scheint für die Trophäe irrelevant gewesen zu sein, wollte ihn ja leben lassen.

Zum Schluss bis Mitternacht.
-Naurims versprechen eingelöst, er verriet den Namen seines Vaters
Zurbaran belohnt mit 1Kiste Gold und ihn verabschiedet
Bei Riz
-Schulen
-Waisenhäuser
-Bäder
-Gärten gebaut
-Standbilder von Cassia mit schönem Gesicht!
-Gold eingeschmolzen (+20k)
-Riz belohnt mit 1Kiste Gold

bei der Wache
-Weinfest
-Waisenhaus aufgesucht
-Spital besucht

bei Thalea
-Steuern gesenkt
-Niobe frei gelassen
-Kriegsopfer entschädigt
-Giftmischerei verbieten
-Chimärologie verbieten
-Sklaverei verbieten

Am Ende war noch eine Stunde bis Mitternacht übrig, alles Gold weg und ich ging schlafen und Ding! The Saint!

Hoffe habe jetzt nichts wichtiges vergessen!

Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr allen

PSN ID: must-not-named


now translate with google:
Hi there,

My way to the Saint,

I only visited the following places in this order:
Heroine, Sirik fortress, Lorfas, ruins of Barankal, Akisa customs fortress, El'Halem, Cuoris, Mengbilla, Dujar, height of the druid, Adamant festivals, Acropolis of Tykates, all other places would only have satisfied my greed;)

I have not followed any escaping enemies or opened any chests, I have also kept couriers alive. Not looted with Faramud. Nothing lit that didn't need to be. Naurim made a family friend and not betrayed Zurbaran. The catapults did not fire (0/6) so as not to destroy the walls (all enemies killed, except for the courier). Zurbaran and Niobe also brought together.

Release every prisoner, including the blind. All interrogations intentionally burst. Bring Mirai and Takate together and let Takate jump to Mirai.

In the end, I did NOT save Mirai because I did not know that I had to turn Marwan to stone and thus killed him. Seems to have been irrelevant to the trophy, wanted to let him live.

At the end until midnight.
-Nurim's promise kept, he betrayed his father's name
Zurbaran rewarded with 1 box of gold and said goodbye
At Riz
-Schools
-Waisenhäuser
-Bäder
Gardens built
-Stills from Cassia with a beautiful face!
-Gold melted down (+ 20k)
-Riz rewarded with 1 box of gold

at the guard
-Weinfest
-Orphanage visited
- Visited hospital

at Thalea
- Lower taxes
-Niobe released
- War victim compensated
- Prohibit poisoning
- Forbid chimerology
- prohibit slavery

In the end there was an hour until midnight, all the gold was gone and I went to sleep and thing! The Saint!

Hope I haven't forgotten anything important now!

Happy New Year everyone

PSN ID: must-not-named
must-not-named Dec 31, 2019 @ 9:20am 
i forgot: close the labyrint!
Truc_douteux Jan 1, 2020 @ 9:14am 
Thank you must-not-named, I will try it your way immediately.
Truc_douteux Jan 1, 2020 @ 11:29am 
I just got the trophy!
And wihout doing the same run as you, I only reloaded my "good save".
But I did EXACTLY as you did during the last part on the throne, and that made the difference!
My run was like this :
- Liberated every prisonners.
- Freed the blind messenger.
- Stopped Faramud about every slaughters possible.
- Calmed Naurim about his family, and made him not betray Zurbaran.
- Send Zurbaran with Niobe, they felt in love together.
- Kept Miraï and Takate together, Takate jumped and saved her in the end.
- I saved Miraï by pertifying Marwan in the end.

Then, on the throne, your combination worked :
- Naurim and Zurbaran were present in front of my throne, I proposed half of the gold to Naurim, and he told me his father's name, then I gave 1 Gold to Zurbaran then we just said goodbye.
- Built schools
- Built orphanages
- Did some gardens
- Sealed the catacombs
- Melted down the gold (+2K)
- Lowered the bread taxes
- Free Niobé
- Gave compensation to families of victims of war
- Law against poisons
- Law against Chimeras
- Law against slavery
- Visited the orphenage
- Visited the hospital
- Built baths
- Built statues with Cassia's beautiful face
- Gave 1 Gold to Riz
- Organized a banquet of wines

Miraï was there too, but no interactions were necesseray with her after all.
It's done now!
But I suspect we don't understand the exact requirements to get this trophy...
Last edited by Truc_douteux; Jan 1, 2020 @ 2:52pm
Berseeker96 Oct 31, 2020 @ 3:52am 
Hello

I Want to ask if anyone has any tips for me for "The Monster"?

In my opinion I did everything the same as described in the forum, but I can not unlock "The Monster".

I have Takate`s lust for fame on 3/3
When I talked to them in town i said immediately Mirai should go away. At the camp I also told Takate to stay away from Mirai. And i didn´t let him jump in the end either.

I promised Naurim gold and later Niobe´s head and his anger is on 3/3.
Or should I promise Naurim just Niobe´s head?

I have Zurbaran´s lust for power on 3/3.
When Zurbaran spoke to Niobe I always beguiled or flattered her and always asked for the recipe.

I first threatened Niobe with corapien poisen. Told her to make Zurbaran "evil". Then interrogated her with thumbscrews. And finally fed her to the corapie.

I killed all of the prisoners immediately without talking to them.
Except those thad need interrogation. There I always threatened them, regardless of whether the interrogation was successful, and killed them immediately afterwards.

I covered Lorfas`s rumor of Cassia`s cruelty.

I looted all cities with Faramud. I killed the fishermen too.

In the end, when you stand in front of marvan, i threatened him.
Except when he asked me why, I was silent.

When you sit on the thron i did everything as described in the forum.

I hope someone can help me.

Sorry for my bad english
Captain GER Jul 8, 2022 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by Truc_douteux:
I just got the trophy!
And wihout doing the same run as you, I only reloaded my "good save".
But I did EXACTLY as you did during the last part on the throne, and that made the difference!
My run was like this :
- Liberated every prisonners.
- Freed the blind messenger.
- Stopped Faramud about every slaughters possible.
- Calmed Naurim about his family, and made him not betray Zurbaran.
- Send Zurbaran with Niobe, they felt in love together.
- Kept Miraï and Takate together, Takate jumped and saved her in the end.
- I saved Miraï by pertifying Marwan in the end.

Then, on the throne, your combination worked :
- Naurim and Zurbaran were present in front of my throne, I proposed half of the gold to Naurim, and he told me his father's name, then I gave 1 Gold to Zurbaran then we just said goodbye.
- Built schools
- Built orphanages
- Did some gardens
- Sealed the catacombs
- Melted down the gold (+2K)
- Lowered the bread taxes
- Free Niobé
- Gave compensation to families of victims of war
- Law against poisons
- Law against Chimeras
- Law against slavery
- Visited the orphenage
- Visited the hospital
- Built baths
- Built statues with Cassia's beautiful face
- Gave 1 Gold to Riz
- Organized a banquet of wines

Miraï was there too, but no interactions were necesseray with her after all.
It's done now!
But I suspect we don't understand the exact requirements to get this trophy...

Did everything, too (+ never took a treasure, i just took the "must have" villages). Dunno what i have missed ....
Captain GER Jul 9, 2022 @ 9:02am 
Hey, i had also trouble with "The Saint". I did everything what the people above me told me but it didnt worked. I gave the guard (at the end) also 10k and then it worked. Before u go for the last fights, go visit all the towns u already conquered for important dialogues! Takata and mirai; Zurbaran and Niobi (be always honest with her and agree whatever she says and never ask for the potion as Zurbaran); and manipulate Naurim so he become the "Family" type person.
Last edited by Captain GER; Jul 9, 2022 @ 9:04am
Sneaky Fox Sep 12, 2022 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Truc_douteux:
Well, I did the exact opposite :

- Liberated every prisonners.
- Freed the blind messenger.
- Stopped Faramud about every slaughters possible.
- Chose good answers.
- Calmed Naurim about his family, and didn't betray Zurbaran.
- Send Zurbaran with Niobe, they felt in love together.
- Kept Miraï and Takate together, Takate jumped and saved her in the end.
- I saved Miraï by pertifying Marwan in the end.
- Naurim and Zurbaran were present at my throne, I gave 1 Gold to Zurbaran, and Naurim told me his father's name.
- Gave money for school, orphenage, and victims of war.
- made laws against slavery, poison preparation and chimeras studies.

Well I did all these I even tried some variations about constructions, or gave money to the guard, spend time with Miraï, and so and so...

NOTHING seems to work to unlock "The Saint".
I'm stuck for good.



"It's so silent here, that's strange. I'm going to sleep now, at last" - Me, last words, nov 2019.
:steambored:

you need to add the following to that list:
in Lorfas make the alchemist tell everyone about your mercy after you ensure to pay her.
when becoming ruler you need to aditionally:
build the gardens, seal the catacombs, melt down the gold, lower taxes, free niobe.
also visit the hospital and the orphanage.
build the baths and a statue of yourself with the beautiful face.
lastly give riz one chest of gold and organize a banquent of wines.

this should give you the achievement. I got it and the guide I consulted did as well. here is the source: https://www.trueachievements.com/a240604/the-saint-achievement
jarekii Mar 29, 2023 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Truc_douteux:
I just got the trophy!
And wihout doing the same run as you, I only reloaded my "good save".
But I did EXACTLY as you did during the last part on the throne, and that made the difference!
My run was like this :
- Liberated every prisonners.
- Freed the blind messenger.
- Stopped Faramud about every slaughters possible.
- Calmed Naurim about his family, and made him not betray Zurbaran.
- Send Zurbaran with Niobe, they felt in love together.
- Kept Miraï and Takate together, Takate jumped and saved her in the end.
- I saved Miraï by pertifying Marwan in the end.

Then, on the throne, your combination worked :
- Naurim and Zurbaran were present in front of my throne, I proposed half of the gold to Naurim, and he told me his father's name, then I gave 1 Gold to Zurbaran then we just said goodbye.
- Built schools
- Built orphanages
- Did some gardens
- Sealed the catacombs
- Melted down the gold (+2K)
- Lowered the bread taxes
- Free Niobé
- Gave compensation to families of victims of war
- Law against poisons
- Law against Chimeras
- Law against slavery
- Visited the orphenage
- Visited the hospital
- Built baths
- Built statues with Cassia's beautiful face
- Gave 1 Gold to Riz
- Organized a banquet of wines

Miraï was there too, but no interactions were necesseray with her after all.
It's done now!
But I suspect we don't understand the exact requirements to get this trophy...

Hey, I've just got Kyria for a day and The Saint trophies following your steps while on the throne! Thank you guys!
An interesting thing is that good old Zee was paralyzed during the last fight (means no happy leave with Niobe and Miria was also dead), but I was awarded anyway.
So I suppose there's some counter of 'good deeds' during the run (?) and if you reach breakpoint the game gives you the achievement (or maybe some good deeds weight more then the other).
Last edited by jarekii; Mar 29, 2023 @ 3:24pm
jarekii Mar 29, 2023 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by must-not-named:
Hallo,

Mein Weg to the Saint,

habe nur folgende Ortschaften aufgesucht in dieser Reihenfolge:
Heldenrain, Festung Sirik, Lorfas, Ruinen von Barankal, Zollfestung Akisa, El‘Halem, Cuoris, Mengbilla, Dujar, Höhe des Druiden, Adamants Feste, Akropolis des Tykates, alle anderen Ortschaften hätten nur meine Gier befriedigt ;)

Ich habe keine flüchtenden Feinde verfolgt und keine Truhen geöffnet, auch auftauchende Kuriere habe ich am Leben gelassen. Mit Faramud nicht geplündert. Nichts angezündet was nicht nötig gewesen sein musste. Naurim zum Famielienfreund gemacht und Zurbaran auch nicht verraten. Die Katapulte nicht ausgelöst (0/6), um die Mauern nicht zu zerstören(alle Feinde getötet, bis auf den Kurier). Zurbaran und Niobe auch zusammen gebracht.

Jeden Gefangenen freigelassen, auch den Blinden. Alle Verhöre mit Absicht platzen lassen. Mirai und Takate zusammen gebracht und Takate nach Mirai springen lassen.

Ich habe Mirai am Ende NICHT gerettet, weil ich nicht wusste, das ich Marwan versteinern lassen muss und ihn somit getötet habe. Scheint für die Trophäe irrelevant gewesen zu sein, wollte ihn ja leben lassen.

Zum Schluss bis Mitternacht.
-Naurims versprechen eingelöst, er verriet den Namen seines Vaters
Zurbaran belohnt mit 1Kiste Gold und ihn verabschiedet
Bei Riz
-Schulen
-Waisenhäuser
-Bäder
-Gärten gebaut
-Standbilder von Cassia mit schönem Gesicht!
-Gold eingeschmolzen (+20k)
-Riz belohnt mit 1Kiste Gold

bei der Wache
-Weinfest
-Waisenhaus aufgesucht
-Spital besucht

bei Thalea
-Steuern gesenkt
-Niobe frei gelassen
-Kriegsopfer entschädigt
-Giftmischerei verbieten
-Chimärologie verbieten
-Sklaverei verbieten

Am Ende war noch eine Stunde bis Mitternacht übrig, alles Gold weg und ich ging schlafen und Ding! The Saint!

Hoffe habe jetzt nichts wichtiges vergessen!

Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr allen

PSN ID: must-not-named


now translate with google:
Hi there,

My way to the Saint,

I only visited the following places in this order:
Heroine, Sirik fortress, Lorfas, ruins of Barankal, Akisa customs fortress, El'Halem, Cuoris, Mengbilla, Dujar, height of the druid, Adamant festivals, Acropolis of Tykates, all other places would only have satisfied my greed;)

I have not followed any escaping enemies or opened any chests, I have also kept couriers alive. Not looted with Faramud. Nothing lit that didn't need to be. Naurim made a family friend and not betrayed Zurbaran. The catapults did not fire (0/6) so as not to destroy the walls (all enemies killed, except for the courier). Zurbaran and Niobe also brought together.

Release every prisoner, including the blind. All interrogations intentionally burst. Bring Mirai and Takate together and let Takate jump to Mirai.

In the end, I did NOT save Mirai because I did not know that I had to turn Marwan to stone and thus killed him. Seems to have been irrelevant to the trophy, wanted to let him live.

At the end until midnight.
-Nurim's promise kept, he betrayed his father's name
Zurbaran rewarded with 1 box of gold and said goodbye
At Riz
-Schools
-Waisenhäuser
-Bäder
Gardens built
-Stills from Cassia with a beautiful face!
-Gold melted down (+ 20k)
-Riz rewarded with 1 box of gold

at the guard
-Weinfest
-Orphanage visited
- Visited hospital

at Thalea
- Lower taxes
-Niobe released
- War victim compensated
- Prohibit poisoning
- Forbid chimerology
- prohibit slavery

In the end there was an hour until midnight, all the gold was gone and I went to sleep and thing! The Saint!

Hope I haven't forgotten anything important now!

Happy New Year everyone

PSN ID: must-not-named

Some additions from my side, if anyone still cares.
- quantity and order of towns' assault seem irrelevant. I opened all map and conquered all the towns.
- the same is for chests, you can safely take them.
- I used the catapults and made all 6 shots.

But I followed your idea to keep the messengers alive.

I suppose, a very important point for the Saint purpose is the Fishermen village.
There I killed ONLY 3 Marwan's militia (those who aren't half-nude), after that you'll be proposed to finish the mission without future blodshed, and you have to stay solid on that since Faramud will be insisting to kill them.
jarekii Apr 19, 2023 @ 4:06pm 
Tne Monster

It's not mandatory to have Naurim to kill Z in the end. I warned Z so after the last battle just Takate and Z were presented with Naurim mysteriously disappeared (though he wasn't petrified). It's possible to get Amazeroth's inluence and The Monster in one game, along with Eternal Gratitude.
You can also arrange gladiatorial games and melt gold to get enough coins for that.
You can sentence Niobe to death being in throne room (i.e. not in camp).
DonSunderland Sep 11, 2023 @ 9:28am 
For The Monster, does anybody know if executing Niobe needs to specifically happen in the throne room instead of the camp? I'm wracking my brain trying to figure out what I'm missing, and I executed them in the camp ahead of time. I can't imagine why that would stop the achievement from triggering, but The Saint is also pretty weird, so this seems on par for the game
Last edited by DonSunderland; Sep 11, 2023 @ 9:28am
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