Gold Lure needs a buff

[DescipleOfZen]

It's pretty bad, given it's supposed to be the final lure.

Helicoprion, Leedsicthys and both the golden bass and golden manta all have better rates on the sparkling and large lure. The only advantage to the gold lure I can see is diamonds.

I feel like the rates weren't even tested.

Edit: v0.9 just dropped, so I guess we'll see if this changes.

[Nyu]

its fine.

[Gooblin]

Is this true?

[DescipleOfZen]

Originally posted by Gooblin:

Is this true?

Yes, there's a few calculators available that show rates becased on lure and bate combination, this data was pulled from the game itself as Godot can be decompiled.

The golden lure is a total wash. All of my golden fish have been from the big lure or buckets, same with getting all tiers of legendary rain fish.

[razorshell101]

I agree with the gold lure needing a buff. Even though its description says that it effectively increases your chances of getting rare fish, I haven't noticed much of a difference at all while using it., especially since I'm trying to catch the leedsichthys.

[Fred]

Originally posted by razorshell101:

I agree with the gold lure needing a buff. Even though its description says that it effectively increases your chances of getting rare fish, I haven't noticed much of a difference at all while using it., especially since I'm trying to catch the leedsichthys.

First, it DOES works as intended. But Leed is rare, and Golden Hook triple the odd of getting it but it stays a pretty small odds relatively speaking. Not even talking about the fact you can only get it while it rains so you only have short windows every time. So at your small, individual scale, you can't pretend you would "feel" the effect of such a hook but it does offer you better odds !

All that to conclude with that second point:
Just use Sparkling Lure. In the case of Leed, it offers the exact same chances of getting it but without the constant x3 bait uses.
Do NOT use Large lure as you would only nerf yourself since the game could very likely roll a small-ish Leed alongside a large Helicoprion that would take priority.

[Fred]

Golden Hook still is the best choice for Golden Bass/Ray Manta and Diamond tho, so keep using it if you wanty to focus on any of these.
But in the case of Leed yea, Sparkling is just better unless you WANT to use more baits for some reasons ahah.

[DescipleOfZen]

Originally posted by Fred:

Golden Hook still is the best choice for Golden Bass/Ray Manta and Diamond tho, so keep using it if you wanty to focus on any of these.
But in the case of Leed yea, Sparkling is just better unless you WANT to use more baits for some reasons ahah.

All of mine are from the large lure or buckets. I haven't gotten a single thing with the golden hook in 15 hours of trying it exclusively. That includes rain fish and the diamond.

[Fred]

Originally posted by DescipleOfDJK:

Originally posted by Fred:

Golden Hook still is the best choice for Golden Bass/Ray Manta and Diamond tho, so keep using it if you wanty to focus on any of these.
But in the case of Leed yea, Sparkling is just better unless you WANT to use more baits for some reasons ahah.

All of mine are from the large lure or buckets. I haven't gotten a single thing with the golden hook in 15 hours of trying it exclusively. That includes rain fish and the diamond.

This is 100% in the realm of possibles, and yet you still have more chance to get them by using the Golden Hook. Your personal experience and this fact can both be true at the same time, welcome in the world of probabilities ! :)

[Fred]

I had a hinch OP would ignore it (unfortunately happens a lot)

For anyone finding this thread, just remember these ;
- Golden Hook is fine, this is the best lure for any Golden fish (Bass and Manta)
- Since today's update, Magnet Lure MIGHT became better than Golden Hook for Diamond (depend of the exact extent of the buff but it's very likely it's better now)
- For Leedsichthys just use Sparkling Lure as it offers you the same chance to get it as Golden Hook without the bait usage malus !

If you are doubtful about these claims (which is fair and good practice anyway), you can find the exact numbers behind these on the Webfishing's wiki (can also find them on a few Steam guides).

Happy fishing !

[SniperOnSunday]

Originally posted by Fred:

I had a hinch OP would ignore it (unfortunately happens a lot)

For anyone finding this thread, just remember these ;
- Golden Hook is fine, this is the best lure for any Golden fish (Bass and Manta)
- Since today's update, Magnet Lure MIGHT became better than Golden Hook for Diamond (depend of the exact extent of the buff but it's very likely it's better now)
- For Leedsichthys just use Sparkling Lure as it offers you the same chance to get it as Golden Hook without the bait usage malus !

If you are doubtful about these claims (which is fair and good practice anyway), you can find the exact numbers behind these on the Webfishing's wiki (can also find them on a few Steam guides).

Happy fishing !

Isn't large lure the best lure for Leed though?

[Fred]

Originally posted by SniperOnSunday:

Originally posted by Fred:

I had a hinch OP would ignore it (unfortunately happens a lot)

For anyone finding this thread, just remember these ;
- Golden Hook is fine, this is the best lure for any Golden fish (Bass and Manta)
- Since today's update, Magnet Lure MIGHT became better than Golden Hook for Diamond (depend of the exact extent of the buff but it's very likely it's better now)
- For Leedsichthys just use Sparkling Lure as it offers you the same chance to get it as Golden Hook without the bait usage malus !

If you are doubtful about these claims (which is fair and good practice anyway), you can find the exact numbers behind these on the Webfishing's wiki (can also find them on a few Steam guides).

Happy fishing !

Isn't large lure the best lure for Leed though?

To put it simply, when something bite the game pick a loot table. If it's the rain table, there is only 4 fish in there including the Leedsichthys.
The game will randomly roll 3 fish of that table and your lure will decide which one you get.

So if a Leed is rolled :
- With Sparkling you'll always have it since it's the only Tier 3 of the category.
- With Golden Hook you'll always have it since it's the only rare of the category.
- With Large Lure you'll have it MOST of the time but there is a possibility that a bigger Helicoprion is rolled alongside it, taking priority.

If you want to target Leedsichthys, use Sparkling !

[SniperOnSunday]

Originally posted by Fred:

Originally posted by SniperOnSunday:

Isn't large lure the best lure for Leed though?

To put it simply, when something bite the game pick a loot table. If it's the rain table, there is only 4 fish in there including the Leedsichthys.
The game will randomly roll 3 fish of that table and your lure will decide which one you get.

So if a Leed is rolled :
- With Sparkling you'll always have it since it's the only Tier 3 of the category.
- With Golden Hook you'll always have it since it's the only rare of the category.
- With Large Lure you'll have it MOST of the time but there is a possibility that a bigger Helicoprion is rolled alongside it, taking priority.

If you want to target Leedsichthys, use Sparkling !

I mean, you don't catch ONLY rain fish during rain, and both the saltwater and freshwater pools have plenty of T3s that could compete with the Leed, whereas every Leed I've ever pulled has been the size of Elon Musk's ego

[Fred]

Originally posted by SniperOnSunday:

Originally posted by Fred:

To put it simply, when something bite the game pick a loot table. If it's the rain table, there is only 4 fish in there including the Leedsichthys.
The game will randomly roll 3 fish of that table and your lure will decide which one you get.

So if a Leed is rolled :
- With Sparkling you'll always have it since it's the only Tier 3 of the category.
- With Golden Hook you'll always have it since it's the only rare of the category.
- With Large Lure you'll have it MOST of the time but there is a possibility that a bigger Helicoprion is rolled alongside it, taking priority.

If you want to target Leedsichthys, use Sparkling !

I mean, you don't catch ONLY rain fish during rain, and both the saltwater and freshwater pools have plenty of T3s that could compete with the Leed, whereas every Leed I've ever pulled has been the size of Elon Musk's ego

Like I said, the game will always pick a single loot table at a time. If it picked the rain table, it'll only roll rain fishes. Same goes for the junk table and salt/fresh water ones.
In short, the game will never roll a rain fish alongside fresh/salt water fish or junks. It's always gonna be a selection of 3 fish of the same category.