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Jet Powers Jun 16, 2019 @ 12:10am
Life on other planets...Really?
Kind of ruined the validity or this being a realistic sim when I target stars with the notes listing they have planets haing life. Pretty much gained a Thumbs Down refund with that alone, as well as at least one major bug of screen exiting to Steam Dome with music still playing and minutes racking up. No way to exit game without stopping VR. Sorry, been a hard core astro buff since childhood and really wanted to like this. Maybe someone or dev can respond and get me to come back.
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morph113 Jun 16, 2019 @ 12:15am 
What is your issue with this? It's not exactly clear from your post. Yes Earth is the only planet we know so far to have life. However this gives us a chance to know under which circumstances life might occur via abiogenesis. Do you seriously believe that in possibly millions of habitable planets in the milky way and even more in the entire universe that Earth is the only one where life has came into existence? I mean it's possible I guess, but certainly it's fairly unlikely.

And that's just assuming that life is carbon based. If we assume that other life forms based on ammonia or silicon are possible too, then the chances increase even more. Although for now we only know of water based carbon life so we have to go with that as a possibility. But of course Space Engine as far as I noticed seems to have a rather wide range of possible habitable planets for life. I don't exactly know what the algorithm is for the game to decide when a planet can have life.

I asssume a dev will let you know soon enough, since they are quite active in this forum.
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Scary Barry Jun 16, 2019 @ 1:05am 
Also, outside of Earth, Life only appears on randomly generated planets. There is nothing stopping you from leaving it out if you don't want it.
DanTheMan Jun 16, 2019 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Jet Powers:
Kind of ruined the validity or this being a realistic sim when I target stars with the notes listing they have planets haing life. Pretty much gained a Thumbs Down refund with that alone, as well as at least one major bug of screen exiting to Steam Dome with music still playing and minutes racking up. No way to exit game without stopping VR. Sorry, been a hard core astro buff since childhood and really wanted to like this. Maybe someone or dev can respond and get me to come back.
What? you refund the game just because of a little description? its procedural generation and life is likely more common than we think..

Life existing on other planets is the most realistic thing of this simulation, we just have not found any planets that have life cause it's damn hard without going directly to them. oh and BTW you can change the generation settings so no planets are generated with life if you so please.
Dablin Polarius Jun 16, 2019 @ 2:57am 
Its halirious you complain that SE simulates possible life on other planets when even many scientists agree that life is probably a lot more prevalent in the universe then we humans have been able to detect up to now but say nothing about the fact it also allows us to travel anywhere in the universe at speeds far exceeding light.

If you want total reality go work for NASA and enjoy your 3 day travel to the moon - eventually, maybe.
The lack of realism you criticise is probably one of the most realistic and scientific accurate part of SE. You can believe whatever you want, you can even use the editor to create a flat earth if this fits your believe (not that you actually do). If you think that life outside the earth is totally unrealistic and thus want to quit SE, just go ahead. Nobody stops you from abandoning one of the most spectacular and accurate universe simulations that are currently available for the normal user.
Viktor Jun 16, 2019 @ 4:19am 
Fermi paradox much?
ПЖ Jun 16, 2019 @ 4:49am 
You should consider to study about probability theory and note how big is Universe. Maybe if you did this, you didn't complain about possibility of life in other worlds.
Viktor Jun 16, 2019 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by ПЖ:
You should consider to study about probability theory and note how big is Universe. Maybe if you did this, you didn't complain about possibility of life in other worlds.
Playing SE is enough for that. It gives really good imagination. But even if amount of stars in every galaxy is pretty impressive in SE, in real universe, the amount of stars in galaxies is even higher.
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morph113 Jun 16, 2019 @ 5:20am 
Originally posted by Viktor:
But even if amount of stars in every galaxy is pretty impressive in SE, in real universe, the amount of stars in galaxies is even higher.

Actually the amount of stars in galaxies in SE is pretty accurate. I mean it has an upper limit of 25 trillion stars for the most massive galaxies while in real life we know of galaxies that have up to 100 trillion stars. However these supermassive galaxies are quite rare in real life as well and the majority of galaxies are of intermediate or smaller size. The milky way with it's 400 billion (roughly) stars would be of intermediate size. So the only thing space engine is lacking in terms of galaxy size is having the absolute upper limit not high enough. Although I think 25 trillion stars for the big galaxies is still pretty impressive.
Arestris Jun 16, 2019 @ 5:40am 
Op, SE is here, most probably, absolute right!
The chance for life (especially simple single- or even multicell life) is pretty high. So high, that we can assume, it's in fact pretty common out there. The reason we've found none until now? Cos our technics are to bad! We are only able to "see" the biggest of Exoplanets so far, we can see even less, how they really are build up (possible to some degree, but only very rough). From some Exoplanets, we only know, they are there, cos the behavior of a system says, it must.
ult Jun 16, 2019 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Jet Powers:
Maybe someone or dev can respond and get me to come back.

Good riddance! Always hated people like that.
Last edited by ult; Jun 16, 2019 @ 5:41am
Arestris Jun 16, 2019 @ 5:53am 
Oh, and another tipp op: If it really disturbs you, go to options -> filters and remove there the mark on all procedural objects. You can deactivate it all, procedural galxies, stars, planets, clusters ... when you've done that, you'll only have the catalog objects, not the ones, SE assumed, they could be there. This would include any planet with life.
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Lagrange Jun 16, 2019 @ 6:41am 
There are hundreds of planets that are not real objects, so what logical reason should deny the existence of life on the simulated objects?
brenelael Jun 16, 2019 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by Arestris:
Oh, and another tipp op: If it really disturbs you, go to options -> filters and remove there the mark on all procedural objects. You can deactivate it all, procedural galxies, stars, planets, clusters ... when you've done that, you'll only have the catalog objects, not the ones, SE assumed, they could be there. This would include any planet with life.
That would require some actual time involved to learn the program. It's much easier just to have a knee jerk reaction and refund the program then actual learn how to use it properly... I mean come on... that would require an actual amount of intelligence on the OP's part.
odds Jun 16, 2019 @ 6:51am 
Mathematically speaking it is plausible that we would find every kind of life out there
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