Dovetail's Euro Fishing Vs Fishing Planet.

[Alaura]

To be straight honest here, if you want a game thats good, has like, water physics, and like, everything looks beautiful go with Fishing planet, if you want a ♥♥♥♥ game by the people who over farm there products, go with DoveTails game.

[Cyber_Chupacabra]

I prefer EU fishing. Why?
-no tiny spawn points for fishies - you don't cast mindlessly into the same place all the time.
-You can walk around the lake and cast from wherever you want.
I like both games but at the moment I`m done with FP due to the boring tiny spawn points and terrible grind.

[Alaura]

Originally posted by mordin86:

I prefer EU fishing. Why?
-no tiny spawn points for fishies - you don't cast mindlessly into the same place all the time.
-You can walk around the lake and cast from wherever you want.
I like both games but at the moment I`m done with FP due to the boring tiny spawn points and terrible grind.

Actually it isnt tiny spawn points, the game has dynamic spawns, meaning the fishes wont spawn in the same place twice. So you wont always catch a catfish 100 times in a row. Thats what real fishing is all about.

[Krhymez]

Originally posted by mordin86:

I prefer EU fishing. Why?
-no tiny spawn points for fishies - you don't cast mindlessly into the same place all the time.
-You can walk around the lake and cast from wherever you want.
I like both games but at the moment I`m done with FP due to the boring tiny spawn points and terrible grind.

tiny spawn points? Fish are all over the water, if your casting in the same spot over and over.... your not playing it right. There is data out there about it with pics... but i cant share them. Just trust me when i say its more like spawn pads then points... and they are all over the lake.

As to walking around the lake thats soon and the same goes for large lakes and boats.

Fishing Planet is still EA Beta, this game is the full release.....

[Cyber_Chupacabra]

I hope you are right because FP sure looks pretty. Maybe I`m just little bored with it after more than 100h.

[Roby1164]

Originally posted by mordin86:

I prefer EU fishing. Why?
-no tiny spawn points for fishies - you don't cast mindlessly into the same place all the time.
-You can walk around the lake and cast from wherever you want.
I like both games but at the moment I`m done with FP due to the boring tiny spawn points and terrible grind.

Yes, true that you can turn around the lakes, there are more fishing spots and there are no fixed points of the fish, but, as mentioned in my post, the problem are the controls, in particular to launch, with that mouse and keyboard, and almost impossible to have accurate and stable, having to press a button and move the mouse to launch, is an almost titanic. Then he came out officially, some graphical issues, it was hoped that there would be, starting with FPS stuck at 30, but worse is when, dirante recovery with the net, it happens very often, that this block, set back, especially, when you are on a workstation with a raised wooden board, then the question of line and depth effect, a disgusting ......

[Marlowe-33]

go and play it then..

[kirisute]

neither of them are perfect;
in fact being brutally honest...both of them are pretty f'ing far from perfect!!
Euro:
plus:
nice graphics
free roam
better fish fighting
more intuitive mouse/keyboard controls
better fish location and fish sign

negative:
stuck with ledger rigs/fishing (no float fishing)
awful landing net system
very tough to cast accurately consistently
fish possibly too easy to catch
glitchy in various locations both graphically and mechanically
fish XP way too low
no STRIKE!! really? designed by carp boys for carp boys :(

FP:
plus:
nice casting mechanisms (though the accurate system is way off)
water dynamics and rod dynamics are good
lots of tackle inc floats and spinning etc
float fishing is great fun with good bite indications
depth settings

negatives:
obviously Americanised (floats are like marker bouys)
awful scaling on the float system..in fact no matter how far you cast the "bobber" is always the same size!!
locked fishing locations with limited movement
no decent fish signs
poor landing mechanics with no decent photo op for caught fish
pay to play (possibly pay to win) game mechanics (yes you can catch and earn but its a long slow process)
no sense of lake bed or weed beds etc

Negatives for both:
limited tackle and rigs
no way of feeding (Euro has spodding buts its essentially limited and severely hampered by the casting mechanics) BOTH need hand feeding/ catapult feed with particles
both have poor fish landing mechanics
no underwater views on either
they are BOTH limited in their design: Euro is clearly designed by "carp boys" hence the Korda sponsorship etc...that means the waggler fishing, standard ledger, pole fishing, surface fishing etc that course fishing is full of...is utterly ignored.
FP is clearly americanised: bobbers, baits, spinning and locations are not European, as are the species...

so enither is perfect...to be honest i "hope" Euro will start to bring in true course fishing techniques and tackle..wagglers, pole fishing, feeding with catapult etc

as a gut call id say Euro is going to be the better game and i have had far more enjoyment with it. it reamins to be seen if the devs will produce the goods or not.

[Alaura]

Originally posted by kirisute:

neither of them are perfect;
in fact being brutally honest...both of them are pretty f'ing far from perfect!!
Euro:
plus:
nice graphics
free roam
better fish fighting
more intuitive mouse/keyboard controls
better fish location and fish sign

negative:
stuck with ledger rigs/fishing (no float fishing)
awful landing net system
very tough to cast accurately consistently
fish possibly too easy to catch
glitchy in various locations both graphically and mechanically
fish XP way too low
no STRIKE!! really? designed by carp boys for carp boys :(

FP:
plus:
nice casting mechanisms (though the accurate system is way off)
water dynamics and rod dynamics are good
lots of tackle inc floats and spinning etc
float fishing is great fun with good bite indications
depth settings

negatives:
obviously Americanised (floats are like marker bouys)
awful scaling on the float system..in fact no matter how far you cast the "bobber" is always the same size!!
locked fishing locations with limited movement
no decent fish signs
poor landing mechanics with no decent photo op for caught fish
pay to play (possibly pay to win) game mechanics (yes you can catch and earn but its a long slow process)
no sense of lake bed or weed beds etc

Negatives for both:
limited tackle and rigs
no way of feeding (Euro has spodding buts its essentially limited and severely hampered by the casting mechanics) BOTH need hand feeding/ catapult feed with particles
both have poor fish landing mechanics
no underwater views on either
they are BOTH limited in their design: Euro is clearly designed by "carp boys" hence the Korda sponsorship etc...that means the waggler fishing, standard ledger, pole fishing, surface fishing etc that course fishing is full of...is utterly ignored.
FP is clearly americanised: bobbers, baits, spinning and locations are not European, as are the species...

so enither is perfect...to be honest i "hope" Euro will start to bring in true course fishing techniques and tackle..wagglers, pole fishing, feeding with catapult etc

as a gut call id say Euro is going to be the better game and i have had far more enjoyment with it. it reamins to be seen if the devs will produce the goods or not.

The pay to play portion is there because its not multiplayer, whos going to you know, take your fish and steal it from you? no one, paying to play a game only gives you a bit of freedom to play the game your way, and leveling up the top just to get the best fish and all that, nothing extra.

[Marlowe-33]

I'll stick to euro fishing thanks anyway, i wish i could give you my halloween pack and the premium days that i foolishly wasted 10 pounds on the other day.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=547196981

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=548365602

i watched this guy land that catfish and it was great.. they are chalk and cheese, please stop with the comparing it's getting boring, i would feel stupid going to fp forums and doing what you are doing.

[Alaura]

Originally posted by Limey21:

I'll stick to euro fishing thanks anyway, i wish i could give you my halloween pack and the premium days that i foolishly wasted 10 pounds on the other day.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=547196981

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=548365602

i watched this guy land that catfish and it was great.. they are chalk and cheese, please stop with the comparing it's getting boring, i would feel stupid going to fp forums and doing what you are doing.

Because you cant do what i do, because everything im saying is true, tyvm

[Marlowe-33]

Originally posted by Alaura:

Originally posted by Limey21:

I'll stick to euro fishing thanks anyway, i wish i could give you my halloween pack and the premium days that i foolishly wasted 10 pounds on the other day.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=547196981

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=548365602

i watched this guy land that catfish and it was great.. they are chalk and cheese, please stop with the comparing it's getting boring, i would feel stupid going to fp forums and doing what you are doing.

Because you cant do what i do, because everything im saying is true, tyvm

Looking at your profile and post history, we can see two obvious things, you hardly play fishing planet and you are upset about the train sim dlc.

please go away, tyvm

ps, reported the post for trolling.

[kirisute]

pay to play is there for the devs to make extra money!
fool yourself all you wish..but the game is tied to a mechanic that promotes paying to play.
if you wish to "grind" to earn the extra gear then thats fair enough...but the game is based around a pay to play concept. The devs will happily tell you you can earn everything in game...and you can! but the mechnics DO NOT promote that! they promote paying to play!
species missions, extra locations and licneces to fish for specific species are designed for one thing and one thing only: to get the player to part with extra cash!

Euro fishing is being based around what would appear to be a DLC mechanic: they will offer dlc for extra lakes, species, tackle set ups and you will pay to obtain them and use them indefinelty.

FP is similar to The Hunter in its mechanics: buying licences etc and you only have the read the huge backlash against The Hunter (which i beta tested from its very beginings (long before it was on steam) and have now left because of this very reason) to understand why this mechnic in a game isnt best for the consumer.

does it change how the game plays or whether its good or not? no it doesnt..but it will certainly effect who might wish to play that game compared to Euro!

[Alaura]

Originally posted by Limey21:

Originally posted by Alaura:

Because you cant do what i do, because everything im saying is true, tyvm

Looking at your profile and post history, we can see two obvious things, you hardly play fishing planet and you are upset about the train sim dlc.

please go away, tyvm

ps, reported the post for trolling.

Actually no, Get your facts straight dude, 1. I play most of my games offline, and 2. Im not upset about train sim dlc, Im upset at them milking the series tyvm.

[Marlowe-33]

Originally posted by kirisute:

pay to play is there for the devs to make extra money!
fool yourself all you wish..but the game is tied to a mechanic that promotes paying to play.
if you wish to "grind" to earn the extra gear then thats fair enough...but the game is based around a pay to play concept. The devs will happily tell you you can earn everything in game...and you can! but the mechnics DO NOT promote that! they promote paying to play!
species missions, extra locations and licneces to fish for specific species are designed for one thing and one thing only: to get the player to part with extra cash!

Euro fishing is being based around what would appear to be a DLC mechanic: they will offer dlc for extra lakes, species, tackle set ups and you will pay to obtain them and use them indefinelty.

FP is similar to The Hunter in its mechanics: buying licences etc and you only have the read the huge backlash against The Hunter (which i beta tested from its very beginings (long before it was on steam) and have now left because of this very reason) to understand why this mechnic in a game isnt best for the consumer.

does it change how the game plays or whether its good or not? no it doesnt..but it will certainly effect who might wish to play that game compared to Euro!

i admit myself i wish i had not started playing theHunter or atleast started spending money on it because it is hard to stop once you start, i'm up to around 250 pounds right now and i could still spend more on extra tents,tree stands etc, but i'm trying not to.

But atleast the game offers large areas and a quite good hunting experience, it's just expensive.

[kirisute]

The Hunter was/ is an awesome hunting sim!
i was there right from the very start: Alpha and beta!
i would still be 110% supporting it if the devs didnt have their awful licence and pay to play system!
sell the packs as DLC. buy a new reserve to hunt for £15! fine..happy with that, no problemo
but pay to play and essentially lose your right to hunt species...nah..thats one step too far in money grabbing!
and there is truly no need for it at all! they could sell reserves and species as dlc and with the quality of the game it would sell easily.
such a great shame.

i still dip into it now and again...i stopped beta testing just after the release of pheasants...up til then i had a fair amount of input into the game etc...i even wrote the first PDF tutorial for it on the website! LOL

duck shooting etc i enjoy greatly! the deer, to me are all the same style of hunting, just different shapes and thats dissapointing...they need more varied ways of hunting..and posibly fishing! man alive..if The Hunter did fishing id be on it like beavers on wood!!