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pppump Jan 4, 2016 @ 2:11pm
Reset cue/view distance key.
We have reset keys for butt angle and spin but not for cue/view distance.

It's very easy to accidentally change this using the mouse wheel and difficult (or impossible*) to set it back to your personal default settings as set in profile.

This isn't just an aesthetic thing, as with no aim lines judging angles relies somewhat on a consistent viewpoint thus changing this affects gameplay too.

A simple reset (to personal default) key would solve this issue.



*for me once I change the view distance I can't get it back to default for the rest of the match. I have it in the middle setting in my profile and the gaps between the way it can be set with mouse wheel are always either to close or too far.
Making the mouse wheel cycle between the options in settings rather than arbitrary distances would be better from this pov.
EDIT: Not that this is entirely necessary, but I took some screen shots to illustrate the point:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=593065690
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=593065939
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=593066197
Note the the default is between the two nearest possible mouse wheel settings. The difference isn't huge, but I actually find it fairly important.
Last edited by pppump; Jan 4, 2016 @ 3:03pm
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pppump Jan 5, 2016 @ 5:23am 
Originally posted by Prodigy:
Do you use the same view distance during the whole match?
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Pretty much.

Regarding realism, I think you'll find that in real life good snooker players (and me :-) ) will use the the same stance and hence head position on the cue for the majority of shots regardless of distance.
Typically for shots near the cushion the head position and stance will be off the edge of the table, meaning for shots further in table the head can be above the table still at the same distance along the cue and from the cue ball.
If this is not achievable a player will probably either stretch their stance (an exception) or use the rest, but both are only as a last resort and relatively rare because it's something you play to avoid having to do.
Consistency and repeatability is key and resetting to my personal default would be the equivalent of taking my normal stance.

If you were going for more realism you could have it so the view point is limited by the cue ball's position on the table, so if you aim in such a way that you'd need the rest (or god forbid the long rest :-) ) in real life the view is zoomed out accordingly and you can't zoom in as close as normal.
...I actually quite like that idea but maybe it's outside the remit of this thread :-)
Last edited by pppump; Jan 5, 2016 @ 5:40am
pppump Jan 5, 2016 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Prodigy:
Originally posted by pppump:
If you were going for more realism you could have it so the view point is limited by the cue ball's position on the table, so if you aim in such a way that you'd need the rest (or god forbid the long rest :-) ) in real life the view is zoomed out accordingly and you can't zoom in as close as normal.
...I actually quite like that idea but maybe it's outside the remit of this thread :-)

This idea actually crossed my mind while replying to the thread. This would be a nice addition and should not be that hard to implement with the minimum allowed view distance depending on the distance between the butt of the cue and the edge of the table or something like that.
Something as simple as a minimum view distance based solely on distance from cue ball to cushion along the chosen line of the shot could work nicely.
Imagine rotating 360° and for most of the rotation the view would stay as you set it but as the line of the shot moves across the length of the table the camera smoothly zooms out keeping a realistic view distance, such that your imaginary head can't be in impossible positions. Then as it continues round the camera automatically zooms back towards the normal zoom level. Like a teardrop shaped camera path around the cue ball.

It would have to be done very carefully not to be annoying and should be rather generous as most typical shots can be played from a normal position even if it is a stretch. I think it would be a nice simple addition to the level of realism in snooker especially though.

That said, let's not run before we can walk :-)
As mentioned above, as someone who values a consistent view point being able to reset it would be a big improvement for me.
Also, and I know I keep banging on about it, but for the same reason this bug: http://steamcommunity.com/app/314000/discussions/2/458604254418456889/ remains probably my biggest issue with the game (this suggestion would actually act as a partial work around).
Last edited by pppump; Jan 5, 2016 @ 8:03am
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