Please help.

[elikos1]

thank you for helping me. For some reason F12 is not taking screenshots for me for this game. So,I have to describe what I need help with:

I have a key with this description.: "I've found this key on a frozen corpse inside the Upuaut base freezer room".

I take the key to the plant room and go to the far end of the room. I unlock the door with this key. I am automatically shifted into psychedelic mode. This mode continues on and on.I realise apparently I need to click on something to get out of psychedelic mode. That is where I need a hint. I have travelled all over the area. I cannot locate anything that will get me out of psychedelic mode.please help me

[elikos1]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by elikos1:

There are no more drawings of the Z figure after 2:41:23

Yes. The shape that is drawn in the walkthrough between 2:41:15 and 2:41:23 is the correct one. The ones before were failed attempts; of they confuse you, ignore them.

Originally posted by elikos1:

So here are two more attempts...One line without stopping...Both of them not acceptable Why?

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637654612/A07E79FCC723568C0CC5B9E015E510B860812770/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637656508/01152241B776565F5EB0D13F73142FF716062D63/

These look like they should work. Did the figure vanish as soon as you released the mouse button, or a bit after?

The figure should stay long enough to let you draw the other two lines, but I think (not sure) if you wait too long, it will reset even if it's the correct shape.

No it absolutely did not


Those lines vanished immediately after I drew them ...
No hold time whatsoever

and I can repeat this pattern over and over (see earlier in post) and ALL attempts vanished lines afterwards...No hold time at all

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by elikos1:

No it absolutely did not

Well, that's why I asked. Did the lines vanish immediately after you released the mouse button, or about a second after?

Edit: Okay, I see you answered that in your edit.

Give me a few minutes while I load up the game, I want to try something.

[elikos1]

I'll tell you over and over and over and over repeating this is not working.

[elikos1]

You DON'T put impossible puzzles in games so that consumers will lose at each at and every attempt!!!


You don't do iit.

You will lose your customer base
You will alienate potential new buyers
Plainly and simply it is a bad business decision

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by elikos1:

and I can repeat this pattern over and over (see earlier in post) and ALL attempts vanished lines afterwards...No hold time at all

Okay. I loaded a savegame with the puzzle, and tried to draw the lines as irregularly as possible, while still hitting the correct dots in the correct order.

I started with the big glyph and then drew he smaller line to the left. I'll post some screenshots. Since you see the smaller line to the left, this means that the big glyph was accepted as correct, and stayed long enough to allow me to draw the smaller line.

I tried round lines and it worked: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MyPublicProfile/screenshot/851592766468554301

I tried crossed lines and it worked:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/MyPublicProfile/screenshot/851592766468555199

I tried extremely irregular lines and it worked: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MyPublicProfile/screenshot/851592766468556148

As you can see, it really does not matter whether the line is straight.

Now to the question why the line did not work for you. In the first screenshot you posted, it looks like you may have drawn the lines back and forth. Don't do that. Just start at upper left dot, draw the three lines, and release the button. The lines should then stay long enough to let you draw the other two. If they don't, then either you made a mistake, or the game has run into a bug. It probably wouldn't hurt to restart the game and load the savegame at this point.

[elikos1]

I want to know why such things as trhis are done

[elikos1]

Now to the question why the line did not work for you. In the first screenshot you posted, it looks like you may have drawn the lines back and forth. Don't do that. Just start at upper left dot, draw the three lines, and release the button. The lines should then stay long enough to let you draw the other two. If they don't, then either you made a mistake, or the game has run into a bug. It probably wouldn't hurt to restart the game and load the savegame at this point

all right I'll try it that way

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by elikos1:

You DON'T put impossible puzzles in games so that consumers will lose at each at and every attempt!!!

See, that's the problem that I talked about a while earlier.

No one else is having this kind of problem with the puzzle. Even the people who apparently struggle with it (like the person in the walkthrough) get the solution in the end.

You, however, decide that the puzzle is "impossible" (regardless of the fact that lots of other people solved it) and lash out against the developer.

As I said: As long as you blame others for your troubles, things won't improve for you. You ran into exactly this problem in other games (up to the point where a developer even took your savegame and played a sequence for you so you could continue), and if you don't change this approach, you will run into these problems again and again.

Everyone else has (to my knowledge) passed this puzzle, I'm sure you can do it too.

[elikos1]

One line as practised in your screenshot..One line.No back up as you staed:;



attempt after attempt after attempt after attempt...............nothing circular nothing no back up the line nothing




https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637808834/B3492CAFB478817F359C628115032F615C5A87FD/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637811607/01D757004E7B6A71AAEDD64EF1D64568EB0B3640/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637813179/D87275A286DC529E271A1E7F1D5C1DB107636653/


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637815537/523952C0F47A54291015055370BA1B329EFB053B/


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637817201/990F2758FBB6A796C22B7AB2B2BF6244E727ABA4/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637819200/25BEE09A592621F736BEF766CF73FA0730C8F58B/



https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/858348104637820721/B132E51859B8F75DCA3E3C6BF703FFD278CA9C9B/

[elikos1]

who is "everyone"? you speak of everyone.............where are these people? I don't see them


and how did "everyone" ask you if you would please speak as their proxy? Can't they speak themselves?

[elikos1]

"No one else is having this kind of problem with the puzzle"


How can you sit there and claim omnipresence over every person who is or has played this game?


You expect me to believe a statement such as this: "No one else is having this kind of problem with the puzzle"

It's absurd! Patently,Certifiably absurd

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by elikos1:

One line as practised in your screenshot..One line.No back up as you staed:;

Well. In some of the screenshots you missed a dot, but others should have worked.

I noticed for some of your screenshots that the line becomes broken or doted at parts. In my experience, this only happens when you draw the line extremely fast. I doubt that this is the root of the problem, but just in case - there is no need to rush while drawing the line. You can draw very, very slowly. The only time-critical moment is when you release the mouse button. Once you do that, you have about a second to start the next line, otherwise your previous lines will vanish - correct or not.

Failing that, I see two options to continue.

1. Instead of just posting screenshots, you could use Steam's broadcast function, and let someone (like me) watch while you play this part. This way we (or I) can see exactly what you're doing, and might be able to spot the root of the problem.

2. You can upload your savegame to mediafire, and someone else can do the puzzle for you and then reupload the savegame for you to fetch.That would at least let you continue.

[elikos1]

Can someone please tell me where the directory is for the saved games in Conarium? Typing "Saved Games" in search pulls up nothing

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by elikos1:

"No one else is having this kind of problem with the puzzle"

How can you sit there and claim omnipresence over every person who is or has played this game?

You expect me to believe a statement such as this: "No one else is having this kind of problem with the puzzle"

It's absurd! Patently,Certifiably absurd

I'm not claiming omnipresence. Omnipresence would also not help in this case even if someone had it. What you mean, is omniscience.

I'm not claiming omniscience either, though. I'm just looking at observable facts:

- About 5,000 people (plus/minus 2000) own the game, as can be seen on SteamSpy.
- 21% of players have the achievement for solving this puzzle on the first try, and 27% of players have an achievement that can only be gotten after this puzzle. This means at least 1,350 people who have solved it.
- There are several different youtube clips that show people solving this puzzle.
- There is no youtube clip of a person doing the correct procedure and _not_ getting the puzzle solved.
- There is no other person, apart from you, claiming that this puzzle is "impossible".
- There is exactly one other thread in this forum from a person who had trouble with his puzzle. He solved it after we gave him the information he was missing. Other puzzles seem to be discussed more.

Given those observable facts, I think it is pretty safe to conclude that the puzzle is not impossible. And as long as no one else reports that they are incapable of solving it even with the correct instructions, I think it's very likely that no one else is unable to solve this puzzle when given the correct instructions.

Is it _possible_ that there many people having the same problem as you? Yes. That possibility cannot be excluded. But given the facts listed above, it seems extremely unlikely to me.

Where exactly do you see a problem in this line of reasoning?

[elikos1]

Can someone please tell me where the directory is for the saved games in Conarium? Typing "Saved Games" in search pulls up nothing