Conarium

Conarium

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Ctrl Alt Del 2017 年 6 月 8 日 上午 7:02
[SPOILERS] Discussing the endings
Okay, so I've found two endings (out of possibly just two, I guess, would love if someone could confirm if there are more).

In one you take the mixture of that hallucinogenic plant beside Dr Faust's corpse, collapse then find yourself in his house where he utters that he has found the answers he was looking for beneath a desert - presumably the catacombs with the constellation puzzle which collapses you were in just a few scenes ago. The ending's name is also "conarionaut", which hints at what it probably mean. But what happens exactly? My understanding is that the main character keeps shifting his consciousness through time.

The other ending you ignore the hallucionogenic, move forward into the ruins until you reach this weird structure which teleport you somewhere else. But you do seem to turn into a lizard of some sort, prolly the same lizard people you've been meeting along the way. Again, I'm not entirely sure what happened here. Did you shift your consciousness to the far past in a Lizard's body? Does that thing turn humans into lizards? (the statues hint that there were different kinds of lizards) Do you become a pawn to the Elder Ones?

If anyone has any inputs, please speculate away!
最後修改者:Ctrl Alt Del; 2017 年 6 月 8 日 上午 7:03
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=Jb's= 2017 年 6 月 8 日 上午 7:25 
I didn't understand the first ending.

About the second i think you left you human corpse to became a deepone ( not a lizard cause your hands are like deepone no ? ) servant maybe on another planet or dimension.
Psyringe 2017 年 6 月 9 日 上午 11:03 
I found these two endings as well. It would surprise me if there were more - I can't see anything else to do on the final map, and information does not seem to be transferred between the maps (inventories get reset, etc.), so I wouldn't even know where to look for a third ending. In theory, getting 100% completion could unlock another ending, but I doubt it.

I think Dr. Faust explains the two endings in his final monologue. Basically, you have dabbled with things that the human mind and body are not designed to deal with. You have transcended human limitations, but as a result, your body and mind are now deteriorating. This leaves two options:

1. Keep going until you die, like Dr. Faust. The plant mixture will ease the pain of your inevitable physical deterioration, but you will die eventually. From the final scene, it is not clear whether you just keep shifting around through time and space, or whether you jumped backwards in time and will live through the following events again - both options seem possible.

2. "Shed your deteriorating skin", as Faust puts it, and transform into a different creature, which can apparently survive in the dimension where humans can't. I don't really have enough knowledge about the Cthulhu myth to speculate what that creature would be and how your future life would look like, so I'll leave that to the experts. ;)

Neither ending seems to be a "good" one. Either you're slowly dying in an alien dimension, or you're losing your humanity. But that's probably in line with Lovecraft's work. We humans are not "meant" to understand or experience these things, and if we try to, we are just facilitating our own doom.
最後修改者:Psyringe; 2017 年 6 月 9 日 上午 11:05
Vahnkiljoy 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 4:45 
Wait there was a bottle you could grab next to his body? I looked but never got the icon to grab anything, think they need to work on some of the hitboxes on things like that. Looked at all the bottles but nothing ever came up so I got the 'deepone' ending.
Psyringe 2017 年 6 月 15 日 上午 6:45 
引用自 Vahnkiljoy
Wait there was a bottle you could grab next to his body? I looked but never got the icon to grab anything, think they need to work on some of the hitboxes on things like that. Looked at all the bottles but nothing ever came up so I got the 'deepone' ending.
Not a bottle, but a bowl with D'versahe. It's to the right of Dr. Faust (from your perspective). Faust looks and perhaps even points to it when he says "Else, take this", but you do not see his hand, and most players probably just think that his gaze breaks.
evildrganymede 2017 年 7 月 1 日 下午 3:45 
I did the Ancient Conarium ending and thought it was incredibly anticlimactic. Weird stuff happens, you become/merge with a Serpent Person, and that's it. It's just too short, there's no time for what happens to really sink it and then the end credits start. What I've seen of the D'Versahe ending has the same issue - you wake up earlier in time and that's it. No denoument or conclusion really, just abrupt endings in both cases.

After the frustrations I had earlier in the game with the chase sequences, this felt really unsatisfying to me.
最後修改者:evildrganymede; 2017 年 7 月 1 日 下午 7:15
jeremyj621 2017 年 8 月 24 日 下午 6:55 
I'm curious about the "Deep One" ending since this is supposed to be a story about the Elder Things and based on the Mountains of Madness and the Cthulhu Mythos. According to the Mythos, the Elder Things warred against Cthulhu and his kin (the Deep Ones and Star Spawn) millions of years in the Earth's past, so it doesn't make sense that Frank would become a Deep One. I'm guessing one of the "lizard men," though I'm trying to figure out where in the Mythos these creatures are referenced. I'm familiar with the Serpent People from the Mythos, though they primarily worshipped Yig. It's possible a few may have served the Elder Things. So could these be Serpent People in the game? The Serpent People were known to be highly technologically and magically advanced after all.
DasUnding 2017 年 9 月 10 日 下午 2:47 
引用自 Vahnkiljoy
Wait there was a bottle you could grab next to his body? I looked but never got the icon to grab anything, think they need to work on some of the hitboxes on things like that. Looked at all the bottles but nothing ever came up so I got the 'deepone' ending.

extactly that was also my experience ;)
Ctrl Alt Del 2017 年 9 月 11 日 下午 5:31 
引用自 jeremyj621
I'm curious about the "Deep One" ending since this is supposed to be a story about the Elder Things and based on the Mountains of Madness and the Cthulhu Mythos. According to the Mythos, the Elder Things warred against Cthulhu and his kin (the Deep Ones and Star Spawn) millions of years in the Earth's past, so it doesn't make sense that Frank would become a Deep One. I'm guessing one of the "lizard men," though I'm trying to figure out where in the Mythos these creatures are referenced. I'm familiar with the Serpent People from the Mythos, though they primarily worshipped Yig. It's possible a few may have served the Elder Things. So could these be Serpent People in the game? The Serpent People were known to be highly technologically and magically advanced after all.
The lizardmen or serpent people in the game did worship the Elder Things, you can see it depicted on the walls and during some of Frank's hallucinations. So I'd say it's plausible.
aluyen 2017 年 9 月 16 日 下午 1:46 
My understanding of the second ending is that you project your consciousness out of your dying human body via the Ancient Conarium into a similar device on another world, into an alien body suited for that environment. I also got more of a 'plant creature' vibe from what I saw of the world and the physiology of the host body rather than than of a Deep One.

I would also agree that there is no real dénouement at all. I can get what the designers were aiming for, but I felt that the puzzles interrupted the flow of the narrative too many times to reach a satisfying conclusion.
最後修改者:aluyen; 2017 年 9 月 16 日 下午 1:56
The Alpha and Omega 2017 年 9 月 20 日 上午 5:05 
Just finished the game, so I'll provide my take on the ending.

The first ending shows the two Carnionauts, Frank and Dr. Faust, linking consciousness' together due to their experiments with the Conarium and attempting to transcending the human experience. I believe that it was Dr. Faust who first found the temple beneath the desert, and your experience through it was simply you sharing memories together as explained before. This is what Dr. Faust's ending line is referring to. Dr. Faust had discovered the location of other Conariums, and ultimately the locations of other worlds throughout the Universe.

Now for the second ending, and the one I consider to be the true ending. The main character, Frank, enters the Conarium and travels to another world, perhaps even another dimension. His consciousness abandons his mortal human body and is placed into one that can survive in the strange, alien world he had entered. The game ends with you losing your humanity, and gaining a body whose senses can comprehend and experience the incredible sight before it.

These are my takes on the endings. I have to say though that I really would've loved to have explored the alien world for a couple of minutes before the game ended.
Ninzus 2017 年 10 月 12 日 下午 5:49 
The First ending could be as Wicked Angel said, but there could also be the possibility that the conarium device you're wearing, which is sending your conciousness all over the place in the last quarter of the game, just "resets" your conciousness and sends you back, essentially creating an infinite time loop.
Thaxlsyssilyaan 2018 年 1 月 20 日 上午 10:24 
引用自 Vahnkiljoy
Wait there was a bottle you could grab next to his body? I looked but never got the icon to grab anything, think they need to work on some of the hitboxes on things like that. Looked at all the bottles but nothing ever came up so I got the 'deepone' ending.
Same here, the bowl was not that obvious, i though Dr faust was talking about the alcohol bottle next to him to "ease the pain", but, after all, i don't care, since i got the ending i would choose if i was Franck Gilman.
opjose 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 7:30 

Now for the second ending, and the one I consider to be the true ending. The main character, Frank, enters the Conarium and travels to another world, perhaps even another dimension. His consciousness abandons his mortal human body and is placed into one that can survive in the strange, alien world he had entered. The game ends with you losing your humanity, and gaining a body whose senses can comprehend and experience the incredible sight before it.

With the incredibly short glimpe we are given, I found it unsatisfying.

If the ending was to be so sort, I wish the devs decided to have one of the "old gods" transmit their thoughts into the protagonist's mind... and have him realize that they were saying something akin to...

"Wonderful, more FOOD!".

And have the player get eaten...

At least that would make more sense!

Except for the monster chase, the game was good up to that point.
最後修改者:opjose; 2018 年 2 月 10 日 下午 7:31
Codemonkey 2018 年 5 月 21 日 上午 11:47 
I think the ancient ones left bodies at each gateway that can handle the atmosphere there. Remember the monsters chasing you after being 'released' by that spectre? Those were everywhere frozen in some kind of living cement. I think those are receptacles similar to the body you get transferred into after entering the ancient conarium.

The spectre is somehow a guardian of the temple pulling in defenders or something. That's the part I'm confused about. And what was that part about where your mirror image talks to you about 'their true purpose'? What were the reptilians doing and what made them go away? What the hell is the guardian black cloud guardian in that tomb where you find the round disk that Faust keeps in his mansion's basement? Did the ancient ones put him there? What about that talking head at the beginning, how does that fit in. So many questions.
最後修改者:Codemonkey; 2018 年 5 月 21 日 上午 11:48
Vorebait 2018 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:25 
引用自 Codemonkey
I think the ancient ones left bodies at each gateway that can handle the atmosphere there. Remember the monsters chasing you after being 'released' by that spectre? Those were everywhere frozen in some kind of living cement. I think those are receptacles similar to the body you get transferred into after entering the ancient conarium.

The spectre is somehow a guardian of the temple pulling in defenders or something. That's the part I'm confused about. And what was that part about where your mirror image talks to you about 'their true purpose'? What were the reptilians doing and what made them go away? What the hell is the guardian black cloud guardian in that tomb where you find the round disk that Faust keeps in his mansion's basement? Did the ancient ones put him there? What about that talking head at the beginning, how does that fit in. So many questions.
I don't think the specter was actually a guardian of anything. Its just an entity that exists in another dimension thats not percepitble except by those who have dabbled in the means of being able to use something like the Conarium. An example of what I mean is like the story/movie "From Beyond." By enabling yourself into perceiving beyond your natural abilities, you're able to see the unseen, but also be seen in return. And as a result, able to be attacked by such entities.

Although it doesn't really explain what it is or what the motivation is behind it, its likely because its completely alien. It does what it does because thats what it does. Any further explanation is just irrelevant.

As for the talking head, look up "Brazen Head."
最後修改者:Vorebait; 2018 年 5 月 26 日 上午 4:28
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