Slurry Tank/Hired help - possible bug

[wolfe]

Ive spent ages getting slurry so i can use it on my fields and put alot of time and patience into it too, but i was disheartened to find you only ever need a couple % of slurry, when you hire a helper he doesnt use up the slurry,
I get it with the seeder and sprayer, but theres an endless supply of them, slurry should go down whether its me driving or hired help

[Ferrus]

It's not a bug, hired help never consumes fuel,seeds, fertilizer etc etc unless you have a mod that allows for that.

[Maiteria]

Sounds like an unexpected downside to enabling hired workers for the fertilizer / sprayer.

[Ferrus]

I personaly cant see how its a downside. I thought it is rather usefull to have the workers not comsume seeds and the like, especially if you're trying to do multiple things at once

[Maiteria]

Originally posted by Ferrus:

I personaly cant see how its a downside. I thought it is rather usefull to have the workers not comsume seeds and the like, especially if you're trying to do multiple things at once

Yeah, but slurry isn't meant to be an unlimited supply, like seeds, spray or fertilizer pellets. :-)
You produce slurry, and then use it.
The whole point of that goes away, if slurry is magically generated from the slurry spreaders.

[MIKSTER]

personally i would love a mod that makes these resources be used when using a hired worker

[Maiteria]

Originally posted by MIKSTER:

personally i would love a mod that makes these resources be used when using a hired worker

http://fs-uk.com/mods/view/35223

[Knottypine]

I always thought comsumables that hired workers use is accounted for in the cost to hire them. Don't think it's a bug.

[Maiteria]

Originally posted by Knottypine:

I always thought comsumables that hired workers use is accounted for in the cost to hire them. Don't think it's a bug.

Not in the cost to hire them, it's added ontop of that - BUT - you're not reading this through - this thread is about slurry.. you cannot buy slurry. That's the "bug".

[wolfe]

Yes, im only on about slurry, that isnt a infinite resourse (apart from your cows),
As i said i can understand it with seeds and fertalizers etc, and yes its in there cost, but there infinite, but not slurry,
Really defeats the object of having cows to produce it ?

[ScruffyBamboo]

At the end of the day though, doesn't this kind of feed into a much larger problem - namely, that there's no reason to use slurry at all?

Since fertilizer (both solid and liquid), manure and slurry all do the same thing, I've always wondered why anyone would bother with manure or slurry fertilization, except maybe for "role-playing" reasons.

Fertilizer is dirt cheap, and the cheapest spreader (the solid spreader one) will fit on the smallest, cheapest tractor and do 24m at a time. It takes about 3-4 minutes to do the biggest field. The manure and slurry tankers can cost upwards of $100,000, and usually require bigger tractors to pull them. Why even bother?

I'd love a system where bought fertilizer = maybe a 20% jump in productivity, whereas manure and/or slurry (which you actually have to work for) would give a better bonus, like the current 100%.

But I agree with Maiteria - sounds like an unexpected "glich" from allowing workers to use sprayers.

[Ferrus]

Originally posted by wolfe.uk:

Really defeats the object of having cows to produce it ?

Are you asking a question or making a statement? There is two simple ways to solve this if you dont like the fact that surry is not comsumed, do the the work your self or dont use slurry. I can see the point of it and that point is i can slurry my field's by hiring a worker that only needs 2% or so in the tank to do the job without having to wait a ingame week or so to build up enough so I can start doing it properly

[wolfe]

Originally posted by ScruffyBamboo:

At the end of the day though, doesn't this kind of feed into a much larger problem - namely, that there's no reason to use slurry at all?

Since fertilizer (both solid and liquid), manure and slurry all do the same thing, I've always wondered why anyone would bother with manure or slurry fertilization, except maybe for "role-playing" reasons.

Fertilizer is dirt cheap, and the cheapest spreader (the solid spreader one) will fit on the smallest, cheapest tractor and do 24m at a time. It takes about 3-4 minutes to do the biggest field. The manure and slurry tankers can cost upwards of $100,000, and usually require bigger tractors to pull them. Why even bother?

I'd love a system where bought fertilizer = maybe a 20% jump in productivity, whereas manure and/or slurry (which you actually have to work for) would give a better bonus, like the current 100%.

But I agree with Maiteria - sounds like an unexpected "glich" from allowing workers to use sprayers.

Slurry and manure are free, where as the fertalizers you have to buy...

Also like your idea and getting better crops from using slurry or manure

[ScruffyBamboo]

Originally posted by wolfe.uk:

Originally posted by ScruffyBamboo:

At the end of the day though, doesn't this kind of feed into a much larger problem - namely, that there's no reason to use slurry at all?

Since fertilizer (both solid and liquid), manure and slurry all do the same thing, I've always wondered why anyone would bother with manure or slurry fertilization, except maybe for "role-playing" reasons.

Fertilizer is dirt cheap, and the cheapest spreader (the solid spreader one) will fit on the smallest, cheapest tractor and do 24m at a time. It takes about 3-4 minutes to do the biggest field. The manure and slurry tankers can cost upwards of $100,000, and usually require bigger tractors to pull them. Why even bother?

I'd love a system where bought fertilizer = maybe a 20% jump in productivity, whereas manure and/or slurry (which you actually have to work for) would give a better bonus, like the current 100%.

But I agree with Maiteria - sounds like an unexpected "glich" from allowing workers to use sprayers.

Slurry and manure are free, where as the fertalizers you have to buy...

Also like your idea and getting better crops from using slurry or manure

Not really free though. If you're paying $100,000 more on equipment to be able to use slurry ,and with fertilizer being so cheap,, how long would it take to pay your investments back with "free" slurry? A long time. And chances are you already own a standard fertilizer, since most people can't afford the slurry or manure spreaders at first.

I'm just saying the game could use some balance, to make more equipment viable. As it is, there's no reason to use any of the slurry tankers, and of the manure spreaders, or even the liquid fertilizer sprayer. It's cheaper and more effective to just use the cheapest fertilizer speader. And that's dissapointing.

[wolfe]

Originally posted by ScruffyBamboo:

Originally posted by wolfe.uk:

Slurry and manure are free, where as the fertalizers you have to buy...

Also like your idea and getting better crops from using slurry or manure

Not really free though. If you're paying $100,000 more on equipment to be able to use slurry ,and with fertilizer being so cheap,, how long would it take to pay your investments back with "free" slurry? A long time. And chances are you already own a standard fertilizer, since most people can't afford the slurry or manure spreaders at first.

I'm just saying the game could use some balance, to make more equipment viable. As it is, there's no reason to use any of the slurry tankers, and of the manure spreaders, or even the liquid fertilizer sprayer. It's cheaper and more effective to just use the cheapest fertilizer speader. And that's dissapointing.

Where you guys getting $100,000 for the slurry tanks ?

You can buy a slurry tank for $9,700

Dont forget slurry and manure is a by product of collecting milk, so any money i spent of machines to look after the cows doenst count