Land MINES?

[Frank's Pickle Barrel Ass]

Latest update says it adds anti-tank landmines, unless I"m reading something incorrectly. This is something users have been asking about for a long time.

It could potentially have a huge impact on moving vehicles along roads and through towns.

I won't be able to check this out for a couple weeks, but I'm interested to know anyone's experiences with trying out mines!

["Wardaddy"]

Just tried the Tellermine 42 out, the German Pioneer's use it and its kinda like a AT grenade but it does HE damage. I just tested it on a T-34 43 model and it took 3 mines to take it out on the turret. i did hit the engine on another T-34 and it set on fire straight away and i used 2 Pioneer squads and they took 3 T-34s out all together. So far i like it but id love to lay the mines themselves, here's what they look like in game. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700068702

[Frank's Pickle Barrel Ass]

Extremely cool. So can you lay mines at all, or do the pioneers seem to just toss the mines at tanks?

I really like the addition of mines, but I'm a little doubtful that soldiers in WWII would actually throw mines at passing tanks!

[Technopiper]

I didn't know you can deploy it by throwing it like a discus!

["Wardaddy"]

Originally posted by Frank's Pickle Barrel Ass:

Extremely cool. So can you lay mines at all, or do the pioneers seem to just toss the mines at tanks?

I really like the addition of mines, but I'm a little doubtful that soldiers in WWII would actually throw mines at passing tanks!

No you cant lay them but Pioneers throw them like a discus, which is possible for it weighing 9.1kg.

In WW2 the Gemans used many tactics and weapons to take tanks out and used the Tellermine 42 and 35 like AT Grenades. They would place them on the "K.O Punte" (Knock out points) of a tank and would work in Panzerknackers Teams while carrying two mines per man, they then would get as close as possible and arm the mine and place it under the base of the turret or under the tracks and then race to a safe distance. If there's one AT device i'd like to see its the Hafthohlladung.

[Spud]

Just had a platoon of engineers stop a platoon of T-34's with Tellermines...
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700544691
It's great that infantry can now deal with tanks, as opposed to early GT:OS, where one light tank was basically invincible and would tour the battlefield unopposed, wiping out 3 platoons of feckless infantry.

I assume that most (non AT/engineer) platoons won't be equipped with too many Tellermans, because we don't want it to be too easy.

[Technopiper]

9.1 kg is still quite hefty, a discus is 2 kilo. I did some research and everything I read said it was buried. Tens of thousands are still buried in north Africa. Maybe the Germans learned to improvise for want of proper anti-tank weapon in the eastern front?

["Wardaddy"]

Originally posted by Technopiper:

9.1 kg is still quite hefty, a discus is 2 kilo. I did some research and everything I read said it was buried. Tens of thousands are still buried in north Africa. Maybe the Germans learned to improvise for want of proper anti-tank weapon in the eastern front?

Yes you are right as in the Tellermine were usually buried and as you said it is too heavy to throw like a discus so i was wrong there but there are reports of Pioneer's using them like AT grenades, not throwing like in game but placing them or chucking them from a few meters. From 41-43 the Germans had to try many tactics too break up tank packs and kill them individually. For example if you search Major Gerhard Konopka a "Panzerknacker" ace of Panzergrenadier Division Grossdeutschland he Destroyed 4 tanks in late 42. He got 2 in Fall Blau and 2 in Rhzev and he was commader of the GD 1's Stabskompanie Pionierzug ,so he served with Pioneers who would have Tellermine's and would use them in these ways. In fact heres a pic of one the GD training sessions in April 43, Ukraine he was teaching NCO's many ways to take a tank out and here's one of them. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/ce/21/fdce21fedac18db23717f0f14c146538.jpg

[Technopiper]

Nice picture and excellent info. Thank you!

[Spud]

It would be great if the devs added a mechanic to make troops approach tanks and throw/place mines onto them from a few feet, like the picture shows https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/fd/ce/21/fdce21fedac18db23717f0f14c146538.jpg

The discus thing is a little bit OP imo.

Forcing engineers to approach tanks would at least put them at risk, as it is now they can crouch in a trench and hurl mines accurately over considerable distances, which is not only OP it's very unrealistic.

[FlashBurn]

The tellermines are of course inteneded to primarily be mines of course. But unlike other mines they could have a secondary time delay fuse installed and chucked short distances like a combat frisbee. It was a last ditch sort of thing that the Germans and the Red Army employeed in the eary days. The Red Army got theres from German mine fields and used in the same way at times. You can see on them model that it has the time delay fuse installed. The bit sticking out the side at about 15 degrees away from the carrying handle.


When I say combat frisbee I do not mean that literally. It is quite heavy.

FYI. When I made the mine and was trying to get them to throw not stupid far I gave it up and gave the model to gravi. It looks like they had issues there too. Even setting it up in the config it seemed to ignore the setting up the max range at like 7 meters which is what I was trying to do for my little mod.

[BlackBadger]

I haven't seen these in action yet, how far can these be thrown in game?