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I'm not sure there should be "doubled" achievements. For instance if you saved the kid in the park you'll get the achievement but honestly I don't see the reason to make another one if player just walks away without resuscitating. The same goes for Lukas' face ones. I think the messy picture achieve fits better. The whole scene with Markus and Oracle who came to kill him also deserves 1 achievement in my opinion.
Secondly, the sex scene with Tiffany shouldn't be rewarded in my opinion. Instead the achievement could be unlocked for just making her stay with Lukas. Could be called something like Forgotten love.
I played Fahrenheit last time like 6 or 7 years ago so I don't remember everything perfectly but what's the deal with painting table? Is it really small and makes it too obvious?
Otherwise both lists look good and I hope when Aspyr finally add achievements there wil be some from here.
From my memory: easy, medium and I'm pretty sure there was a hard difficulty (might've been called something else other than "Hard" though). I'll leave these achievements up to you haha :>
I can see your point about the doubled achievements and as I started making that once-ginormous list to begin with, I realized I was also giving achievements willy nilly.
Resuscitating someone and then walking away is hilarious and an incredibly unusual thing to do (or maybe I have a dark sense of humour, haha) but I always assumed rescuing the kid was a story-related thing and you couldn't miss it (hence why I put both). I realized just a day ago you can actually not save the kid altogether... I always thought that gave you a game over screen. Anyway, I see it now as silly to give an achievement for this and you've convinced me well enough ;)
I think the player should be rewarded for spot-on accuracy in relation to constructing a picture of Lucas (this also changes some events in the game later-on). In my opinion, if one achievement should have to go: the messy photo one. Achievements in my mind (and this was my initial intention with the list) are for rewarding players for tasks that are not easy to do or not immediately obvious. Most of the achievements that were from my list, which coincidentally are all the ones I've now removed, rewarded the player for one or both of these. The others (the majority of achievements remaining in my list) are just funny/unusual things you can do in this game.
"The whole scene with Markus and Oracle who came to kill him also deserves 1 achievement in my opinion."
Agreed.
The reason why I reckon an achievement should be given for sleeping with Tiffany is because of how hard the scene was to get and not only that, very few people knew it was even possible (at least when the game first came out). I remember there was walkthroughs dedicated to showing the player just how to sleep with Tiffany :D. Having said that, Forgotten Love is a great achievement name and suits what you said.
Hiding in/behind a small object (the painting table in this case), while not entirely cliched, is probably the worst hiding spot and it's so bleeding obvious Lucas is hiding there. It also shows how much of a crappy cop Tyler is haha. Again you could chalk it up to being an unusual thing to do but I think something like this definetly deserves an achievement!!
EDIT:
I'd really appreciate if you could give a final look at my achievement suggestions list!! I've reposted it as the latest comment on this thread (I recommend you compile your list and do the same so they're easier to find). I've completely redone the list and removed the silly resuscitation achievement as well as the two stealth flashback achievements.
Thanks again; I really put a lot more effort into the names since I had a bit of extra free time today.
If I'm not mistaken she will always sleep with him if you convinced her to stay. I could be wrong but I don't think I am. The achievement should exist but as I said before it could be unlocked for making everything right during that evening if you know what I mean.
That's what I thought. Which means it's really deseves the achievement.
Alright now. My next post will be the edited and combined list of possible[/i] achievements for this game including your and my ideas. Hope it helps.