Achievements too easy?

[Landon Keyser]

Anyone else notice how easy the achievements were? I mean, I get that people want achievements for making progress on a game -- there's even achievements for failing at certain times, but what about some real challenge?

Aside from the one for saving all the kids in the burning hanger -- a tedious part of the game -- and maybe the scene where you can impress the cop with your shooting skills, there weren't really an real challenges.

Here are some ideas of what could've been:

Seeker - Collect all bonus cards within one play through.

Faith Healing - Collect all extra lives.

The Chosen One - Complete the game in Hard difficulty without failing one quick time event.

Hit and Run- Cover all your tracks after the murder. (Hide knife, body, clean up, pay bill, and leave.)

Invisibles - Notice each of the homeless people following Lucas.

Informant - Get Bogart to talk.

Wanted Man - Get perfect match when recreating Lucas' face when playing as Kate.

Men and Directions - Use the clues and find the book in the library on your first try.

Sneak and Seek - Get passed the military base without being caught.

Curiosity Killed the Cat - While playing as Marcus and Lucas, sneak passed all the guards without being spotted.

Locked Away - Discover Agatha's Clue.

Just a few to name. Most could probably be done with practice or a walkthrough but to the naked eye they'd be almost invisible. Pun not intended.

[Stoibs]

I agree, just got done with my 100% completion and there was nothing there that really needed to be 'achieved' outside of regular play (other than replaying a scene with the Child and playing the different endings); compared to the likes of Heavy Rain or 'Two Souls.
And I'll never understand the idea behind awarding achievements for failing certain events or scenes like Carla and the archive room one or getting a gameover via sanity either - that's something I actually had to look up since who would intentionally fail these otherwise?

The surprising thing is that the announcement claims that these all came from the community, I would have assumed that the community could come up with more challenging and thought provoking things than this.
I mean, to be fair I guess I kind of know this game like the back of my hand due to playing the original version a bunch of times in 2005, but still..

[-3xA'Lu©κy the disappearing act]

Aspyr said they would've liked to add more but this is all they could give us it seems (it is an old game after all, and most of us have no idea what's possible).

That being said: the community came up with some brilliant suggestions. I can't remember if I was the original person who came up with the achievements that involve failing but ultimately we wanted to suggest as many as we could. Here was a list just from me and Mr. Hell:

Story-related and hidden achievements

And the story begins - Leave the crime scene.
Butter Fingers - get caught for simply taking too long in the bathroom (hidden)
Confession - Talk to Markus the first time.
Kid's fate - Save the kid in the park (hidden)
Doing your job ain't easy - Complete the bank level as Lukas, cafe level as Tyler and morgue and Carla.
I don't like my job anyway! - annoy Warren at work. (hidden)
Eidetic memory - construct a perfect picture of Lucas (hidden)
The hide-and-seek - Complete the 1st flash-back
Nobody left behind - Save all kids in the hangar (hidden)
Seek in every corner - Complete archives as Carla and book shop as Tyler.
Should've brought an inhaler - fail at the breathing game as Carla (hidden)
Agatha - Meet Agatha as Lukas.
Visions - Complete the Storm chapter as Lukas.
Interrogation - Succed the interrogation in bank as Lukas.
Batman won't help - Complete the asylum chapter as Carla.
The Runaway - Hide from the police in Tiffany's house.
Quit your day job - hide under the painting table and manage to not get caught by Tyler (hidden)
I prefer the scenic route - have the professor personally escort you
Brother's fate - Save Markus' life. (hidden)
The roller coaster - Find Tiffany in the amusement park.
The misteries of Whishita - Complete the 2nd flash-back.
The truth - Meet Lukas at the cemetery as Carla.
Jade - Meet the indigo kid.
Jade's fate - Determine the fate of Jade. (hidden)
The final stand - Face your enemies for the last time.
The endless summer - Complete the game and get the good ending. (hidden)
The furute awaits - Complete the game and get Orange clan ending. (hidden)
The winter is here - Complete the game and get Purple clan ending. (hidden)
Indigo prophecy - Complete the game on any difficulty.
-104,8 Fahrenheit degrees - Complete the game on normal difficulty.
The true experience - Complete the game on hard difficulty (whatever it called in game)

Gameplay-related achievements

Quick fingers - Flawlessly perform one QTE.
Fast hands - Flawlessly perform 20 QTE.
Perfectionist - Flawlessly perform all QTE.
Good eyesight - Find one bonus card.
Eagle eye - Find 10 bonus cards.
The 6th sense - Find all bonus cards.
Faithful - Earn all extra lives.
I care for my friends - Achieve the max mental health for one character.
I can't take it anymore - End the game by making one of the caracters lose his mental condition.
That's the option too... - Kill yourself as Lukas by mixing medicine and alcohol.
The chosen one - Complete the game without dying once.
Poker face - Flawlessly pass the interrogation.
Good shape - Win sparring fight as Carla.
White Men Can't Jump - Win basketball game as Tyler.
Talented musician - Play the guiter flawlessly as Lukas.
The unseen - Get to the hangar in the military base on the first try.
Maybe next time - Make Tyler stay in the city.
The Matrix style - Flawlessly escape from the orphanage.
Work can wait... - sleep with Sam more than once
Gin-aholic - drink the bottle of gin multiple times
Learning something new - interact with the punching bag
Forgotten love - make Tiffany stay with Lukas
You're ready now, right? - use all available gym equipment for either Tyler or Carla
Ace Cop - do really good in the firing range
It'll solve itself, I'm sure - don't pick up any evidence as Carla
Keys are old-school - use a knife instead of the key on the bird cage
Some things can't be unseen - kick in the wrong door at the sleazy hotel
I'm no Angel - take the easy way out by going to Markus and giving up

[Aspyr-Blair]

Yep, it was an AWESOME list and we wished we could have done more.

Unfortunately, the source code for this game is lost. So we cant really do any hooks that arent dialogue or cut scene based.

[The Selfish Meme]

Originally posted by Aspyr-Blair:

Yep, it was an AWESOME list and we wished we could have done more.

Unfortunately, the source code for this game is lost. So we cant really do any hooks that arent dialogue or cut scene based.

Hmm, didn't know that losing the source code was an optiong XD Did you get an achievement for that? ;-)