Way of the Samurai 4

Way of the Samurai 4

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Gamrage Jul 27, 2018 @ 12:55pm
Big Shot Stance (Tiers)
I looked up which styles benefitted the most from Big Shot and experimented a little on my own even going through the trouble of making an unbreakable Big Shot spear at 500 strength(kill me).

I haven't gone too into depth of every style but it's safe to say that all stances "AREN'T" created equal. After mastering every style, merging them into individual stances and testing them each, here's my list. If you have more information or disagree with me feel free to comment down below.

I'll go into extensive detail on the styles I use the most.

S-Tier:
Waki -
Although it's not as fast as Jo-dan at times, it has good spacing tools, pokes and counters. It's something I use the most because of its utility.
Renki Koho, Toughen, Immovable Heart, Eat Everything, Drink Everything, Chu-dan Parry
Guard > Thrust (Unblockable. Major boost from Big Shot)
Blossom Viewing > Sakura in Bloom (Super slow. Jumps forward and gets a decent boost.)
Botan Shrimp > Shrimp Cracker > Shrimp Cracker (Super long reach. Major boost from Big Shot.)

Jo-dan -
The fastest guard break in the game is what sells this style. It's great but I find it boring to play regardless of putting it at the top with Waki. I consider them equal even if Jo-dan is more likely to be considered superior.
Renki Koho, Toughen, Immovable Heart, Eat Everything, Drink Everything, Waki Parry
Pony > Great Horse (It works better the longer the sword is. Great boost from Big Shot)
Gondo Goma > Otsu Gondo (Super fast spin to win. Decent boost from Big Shot)
Hiden Kurofu (Surprisingly fast as a special attack. Average boost from Big Shot)

A-Tier:
Chu-dan -
This style has everything but because of the fact that it doesn't have attacks that lead with Big Shot, I'd put it lower in the tiers. (Interesting story, I randomly made a Nurse Kitty character with Chu-dan and she'll randomly get lucky at times with 1HKO moves unless I play Waki)
Renki Koho, Toughen, Immovable Heart, Eat Everything, Drink Everything, Ge-dan Parry
Gato > Sen Gato > Zero Sen
-----------------------> Sen Gato > Zero Sen
-------> Gazan Shindakyaku (Only Zero Sen benefits from Big Shot)
Tenshin Senda > Tenshin Senda > Tenshin Shozan
--------------------------------------------> Tenshin Senda
---------------------> Tenshin Shozan > Tenshin Senda (Only Tenshin Shozan benefits from Big Shot)
Fever Beaver > Samurai Beaver > Samurai Beaver > Samurai Beaver (Extremely powerful with Big Shot but kills INDESCRIMINATELY)
Divine Chaos (Minor benefit from Big Shot but is fast as a guard break)

Iai -
This style is extremely good and people love to play it for the air combos. Fancy fancy air combos. I don't blame them, it's interesting to watch. The boosts that this style gets from big shot is really minor though when compared to the previous styles.

B-Tier: (Searching for attacks that benefit from Big shot, I have been unable to find many for these styles aside from the special attacks)

One Handed

Shinobi

Ge-dan

C-Tier: (Since Renki Koho and Toughen only go to intermediate. These styles are a bit harder to survive with and after play them hardly recieved much benefit from Big Shot at all)

Dual Weilding

Shinobi Dual Weilding

Spear

D-Tier: (Not worth the time trying to spawn guns that automatically have 1x Big Shot)

Pistol

Rifle
Last edited by Gamrage; Jul 28, 2018 @ 12:26am
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JaMpocalypse Aug 3, 2018 @ 10:36pm 
For Waki Stance, Quick -> Period into Guard -> Thrust, feels god tier honestly.
Did you think that the size of the grip affects the range of guard?, I haven´t done intense tests with the other sizes, but my Moonflower with Ogrenip grip seems to hit more successful that movement.
Gamrage Aug 4, 2018 @ 8:20am 
I think it's possible that the size of the grip may affect the range of Guard>Thrust. I think the only way to find out is to check if the attacks from small grips such as ninja blades whiff in comparison to the grips from huge swords. I haven't made any small swords since all styles benefit from longer ones. I can test it later.
Last edited by Gamrage; Aug 4, 2018 @ 8:20am
Tomoya Aaron Aug 23, 2018 @ 4:16am 
You know there is skill from each style that can "give more defence against other stance?"

Use that :)
Guard break is good but if u do too much, well.. Poor ur blade, EXCEPT.. U own the unbreakable tittle lol lol lol XD
Gamrage Aug 23, 2018 @ 9:08am 
Yeah, I know about those passive skills. I have them on every style.
his1roguenation Aug 30, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
big shot boosts the standard kick.
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