3D remake or pixel remaster?

[heime2003]

which edition of ff4 is supirior?

[Letobrick]

If you are also interested in the After Years which is the sequel to the original FF4, then get the 3d version. Otherwise, get the PR. Both are good standalone.

[Pack 4 Potatoes]

Get both, but the 3D is better. More challenging and bonus backstory with the villain.

[MV6000]

In my opinion the 3D remakes of III and IV are the definitive versions of those two games and I wish we got more FF remakes in that same style.

[asapa]

Originally posted by heime2003:

which edition of ff4 is supirior?

Pixel Remaster.

3d version looks like hot doodoo, plays like hot doodoo, and they edited / changed a bunch of stuff.

Hard pass on the 3d versions.

[asapa]

Some changes even on, to note that, in my opinion, really effect game play.

Rydia in 3d version magic is way too strong, a level 14 rydia with minimal grinding in kaipo dessert will land magic spells with 3x dmg as a level 40 rydia in FF4(original) kaipo.

If you want easy, generic, bland , changed rpg from playstation 1 era, then go with 3d mode. If you want the real FINAL FANTASY experience, go with pixel.

[Watcher Rat]

I like them both, but for different reasons:

Pixel Remaster is closer to the original style from back in the SNES days, obviously, and now that they've added things like the boost you can tweak the experience down to .5 if you think you're leveling too easily. As others mentioned there are some mods, but the PR includes none of the content that they added to other versions, which did irk some people (though I don't mind).

3D Remake's hard mode made the game a fun challenge again, which I very much enjoyed. The Augment system adds an interesting facet to the game, and really changes up how it plays (plus gives a reason to do a NG+ if you want). While it doesn't have the GBA version's extra dungeon, it does include two secret endgame bosses if you want a tough challenge beyond what's normally in the game. The downside here is that the 3D version was made for the DS, and later for phones, so it is very throttled compared to other versions and plays much slower. I got used to it eventually, but compared to the PR version, it crawls.

The big thing in the 3D remake that does make it more interesting is that some characters got changes that made them better. Edward, while still being weak, is far better in utility thanks to how his songs work, and his Salve ability, for instance. Tellah gets a big boost to his HP and intellect (spell damage), making him better. Little things like that which are just quality of life things, that the PR version didn't do.

[asapa]

Originally posted by Watcher Rat:

I like them both, but for different reasons:

The big thing in the 3D remake that does make it more interesting is that some characters got changes that made them better. Edward, while still being weak, is far better in utility thanks to how his songs work, and his Salve ability, for instance. Tellah gets a big boost to his HP and intellect (spell damage), making him better. Little things like that which are just quality of life things, that the PR version didn't do.

First of all, Edward has all of this on pixel remaster, it just isn't pointlessly renamed to stupid things.

Second, Edward isn't even a "main" character, you play him for like almost none of the game.

Third, Hard mode in 3d version is easy, and the augment system is honestly not great or game changing, not really sure where you're going off about that.

[Watcher Rat]

Originally posted by asapa:

First of all, Edward has all of this on pixel remaster, it just isn't pointlessly renamed to stupid things.

The main difference for PR vs this is that you can manually select which song to use, and he gains a greater selection that have some utility as augments later in the game. Also, mentioning Edward and Tellah was just to give examples of QOL changes not present in other versions, the changes aren't limited to them.

[asapa]

Originally posted by Watcher Rat:

Originally posted by asapa:

First of all, Edward has all of this on pixel remaster, it just isn't pointlessly renamed to stupid things.

The main difference for PR vs this is that you can manually select which song to use, and he gains a greater selection that have some utility as augments later in the game. Also, mentioning Edward and Tellah was just to give examples of QOL changes not present in other versions, the changes aren't limited to them.

Pointless buffing minor characters that aren't full party members is pointless.

[asapa]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by asapa:

Pointless buffing minor characters that aren't full party members is pointless.

By that logic, 99% of every single extra content FF4 has ever had is entirely pointless.

Which, if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel but I'd be inclined to disagree.

Edwin isn't "extra content".

[asapa]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by asapa:

Edwin isn't "extra content".

If you were to tally up literally every single change, addition, or alteration that literally every single version of this game beyond the original FF4 release has ever had, you would come up with a profound number of changes over the years and iterations that have overwhelmingly favored NOT the final 5 in their final incarnations.

And this isn't even mentioning TAY, where you play more as Edward than you do Cecil.

Edwin isn't extra content.

[Aliphim]

Might I interject and propose some thoughtful discussion of my own?

Edwin isn't extra content.

If you were to tally up literally every single change, addition, or alteration that literally every single version of this game beyond the original FF4 release has ever had, you would come up with a profound number of changes over the years and iterations that have overwhelmingly favored NOT the final 5 in their final incarnations.

And this isn't even mentioning TAY, where you play more as Edward than you do Cecil.

[Aliphim]

Verily, such insight rivals the pinnacle of human creation. But what about this:

Edwin isn't extra content.

If you were to tally up literally every single change, addition, or alteration that literally every single version of this game beyond the original FF4 release has ever had, you would come up with a profound number of changes over the years and iterations that have overwhelmingly favored NOT the final 5 in their final incarnations.

And this isn't even mentioning TAY, where you play more as Edward than you do Cecil.

[Aliphim]

Edwin isn't extra content.

If you were to tally up literally every single change, addition, or alteration that literally every single version of this game beyond the original FF4 release has ever had, you would come up with a profound number of changes over the years and iterations that have overwhelmingly favored NOT the final 5 in their final incarnations.

And this isn't even mentioning TAY, where you play more as Edward than you do Cecil.

[asapa]

dang dude, you got some major issues if you can't accept that edwin isn't extra content.