The question of the canonicity of Rain Wolrd

[Fac1l1ty]

is Downpour Canon

Help, I don't understand if Rain Wolrd Downpour is related to the original part and will The Watcher be? As far as I understood, Downpour and the original can be connected to each other, although they were made by different people, but Akupara Games completely bought the rights to the game and they very elegantly logically attached Downpour to the original.

Is The Watcher Canon

But the question remains about The Watcher Whether it will be related to Downpour, or will relate only to the original, Or may even be an alternative reality and not as unrelated to either.

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I would like to think that they will all be connected logically.
I will be glad if you explain how it works or your versions

P.s

I want to respond in advance to some comments, firstly to comments like this: "The original and Downpour are not logically connected, they are just different universes, and their plots are completely two different universes." then I will say that Rain World Downpour includes the companies of a Survivor, a Monk and a Hunter, the direct proof of this is the Gourmet company, Let me remind you that to pass it you need to get into Open the gate to the Outer Distances and Reach the Right place, (the Slugcat Tree) and after passing these gates will open for the Survivor and the Monk, who are in the original.
In other words, My theory regarding the connection between Rain Wolrd and Rain Wolrd downpour is as follows: the companies of the Spear Master, Technician, Hunter, Gourmet, Survivor, Monk, Stream and Saint are one universe and the companies of the Hunter, Survivor and Monk are another and both of them are canonical, Just the Downpour version complements the Original

This is just my theory, it should not be mistaken for the truth.

[benis wenis]

DOWNPOUR IS NOT CANON!!! the developers have stated that it is set in an alternate universe, and in my opinion it's... basically a playable fanfiction. Downpour is completely community-made, it was not even touched by Videocult as far as I'm aware. Monk, Survivor and Hunter still exist in Downpour, but Downpour does not exist in the same universe as the base game. Y'know what I mean?
There is little to no information on whether Watcher is canon or not, but the original Rain World developers (Videocult) are working on The Watcher, so it might be? Nobody really knows.

[clsseattle24]

Guys wdym downpour isnt canon hello?? Ive very easily connected them in my head, its not like theres a reason to make them aus as they fit in with eachother well so what IS the point??

[Fac1l1ty]

Originally posted by clsseattle24:

Guys wdym downpour isnt canon hello?? Ive very easily connected them in my head, its not like theres a reason to make them aus as they fit in with eachother well so what IS the point??

Yes, downpour fits perfectly into the original and it was intended that way, but there were no developers of the original game in the creation of downpour because of this, disputes arise and I believe that both versions of the canon I have already described this theory in this discussion.

[Fac1l1ty]

Originally posted by LookToTheMoon:

Originally posted by clsseattle24:

Guys wdym downpour isnt canon hello?? Ive very easily connected them in my head, its not like theres a reason to make them aus as they fit in with eachother well so what IS the point??

Yes, downpour fits perfectly into the original and it was intended that way, but there were no developers of the original game in the creation of downpour because of this, disputes arise and I believe that both versions of the canon I have already described this theory in this discussion.

In any case, the question remains with The Watcher.

[Fac1l1ty]

Originally posted by Lizardskin:

DOWNPOUR IS NOT CANON!!! the developers have stated that it is set in an alternate universe, and in my opinion it's... basically a playable fanfiction. Downpour is completely community-made, it was not even touched by Videocult as far as I'm aware. Monk, Survivor and Hunter still exist in Downpour, but Downpour does not exist in the same universe as the base game. Y'know what I mean?
There is little to no information on whether Watcher is canon or not, but the original Rain World developers (Videocult) are working on The Watcher, so it might be? Nobody really knows.

I almost agree with you, but it seems to me that both realities can be considered canon, since Akupara Games has full rights to the game. By the way, what do you think about The Watcher, whether it will touch Downpour or only the original game.

[Jevmen]

main issue is that the publisher akupara never disclosed downpour being entierly a mod and fanmade content because that doesnt sell well since modding is associated with low quality, and yeah you can see that downpour has a completely different creative vission and lacking quality specially in the creature and writing department since james and joar were very unique in their own way

Some describe downpour as "rain world the videogame" which is a fairly accurate description since it was essentially just a mod centered arround delivering a way too narrative fanfiction and weird gameplay elements taht dont quite match the quality of the main game.

All because over night the publisher wanted to make a quick buck and suddenly this fanfiction was canon and they had no time to actually redo some stuff since most of the MSC team was kicked out of their own project after signing the rights, thats why there are so many contradictions and ups and downs which leads to downpour not quite blending armoneously with vanilla.

About watcher, we truly dont know, the only involvement the main devs had was the return of Alegra del'northern being the cutscene artist after like 5 years missing, and james leading the creative decissions, for all im aware joar is not participating since he has moved on from rain world and is working in Airframe Ultra, but maybe gives some advice idk, very few of the downpour devs remain for watcher, only andrew and cappin im aware of, the rest are completely new modders who seem to be more on the "reserved" side, along the remaining MSC members being aware of their past mistakes so i doubt the story is gonna be as fanfic as downpour at least, but unsure if will properly follow up vanilla motifs.

The issue is that the main devs dont even remember their own story well, joar multiple times forgets stuff he himself made, like moon ever wearing a orange cloak, and james is completely unpredictable, he can make the coolest and deepest concepts but also randomly one of his few additions to downpour was deciding "ruffles" was somehow fitting or something, so i dont even know what james will do after these 5 years.

My main concern is the implementation of modded regions, idk how much magic you can do to blend them well together, stitches can only do so much, and environmental storytelling is a big part of rain world for them to have like near a thousand screens of already made modded content which never related to each other much, so we would have to see.

Watched is setting off a better start than downpour ever had but still unknown if they will be confident enough to make it the continuation to the RW story we truly needed to have

[Fac1l1ty]

Originally posted by Jevmen:

main issue is that the publisher akupara never disclosed downpour being entierly a mod and fanmade content because that doesnt sell well since modding is associated with low quality, and yeah you can see that downpour has a completely different creative vission and lacking quality specially in the creature and writing department since james and joar were very unique in their own way

Some describe downpour as "rain world the videogame" which is a fairly accurate description since it was essentially just a mod centered arround delivering a way too narrative fanfiction and weird gameplay elements taht dont quite match the quality of the main game.

All because over night the publisher wanted to make a quick buck and suddenly this fanfiction was canon and they had no time to actually redo some stuff since most of the MSC team was kicked out of their own project after signing the rights, thats why there are so many contradictions and ups and downs which leads to downpour not quite blending armoneously with vanilla.

About watcher, we truly dont know, the only involvement the main devs had was the return of Alegra del'northern being the cutscene artist after like 5 years missing, and james leading the creative decissions, for all im aware joar is not participating since he has moved on from rain world and is working in Airframe Ultra, but maybe gives some advice idk, very few of the downpour devs remain for watcher, only andrew and cappin im aware of, the rest are completely new modders who seem to be more on the "reserved" side, along the remaining MSC members being aware of their past mistakes so i doubt the story is gonna be as fanfic as downpour at least, but unsure if will properly follow up vanilla motifs.

The issue is that the main devs dont even remember their own story well, joar multiple times forgets stuff he himself made, like moon ever wearing a orange cloak, and james is completely unpredictable, he can make the coolest and deepest concepts but also randomly one of his few additions to downpour was deciding "ruffles" was somehow fitting or something, so i dont even know what james will do after these 5 years.

My main concern is the implementation of modded regions, idk how much magic you can do to blend them well together, stitches can only do so much, and environmental storytelling is a big part of rain world for them to have like near a thousand screens of already made modded content which never related to each other much, so we would have to see.

Watched is setting off a better start than downpour ever had but still unknown if they will be confident enough to make it the continuation to the RW story we truly needed to have

it is sad. What do you think about The Watcher, will it be associated with downpour?

[Jevmen]

Originally posted by LookToTheMoon:

Originally posted by Jevmen:

main issue is that the publisher akupara never disclosed downpour being entierly a mod and fanmade content because that doesnt sell well since modding is associated with low quality, and yeah you can see that downpour has a completely different creative vission and lacking quality specially in the creature and writing department since james and joar were very unique in their own way

Some describe downpour as "rain world the videogame" which is a fairly accurate description since it was essentially just a mod centered arround delivering a way too narrative fanfiction and weird gameplay elements taht dont quite match the quality of the main game.

All because over night the publisher wanted to make a quick buck and suddenly this fanfiction was canon and they had no time to actually redo some stuff since most of the MSC team was kicked out of their own project after signing the rights, thats why there are so many contradictions and ups and downs which leads to downpour not quite blending armoneously with vanilla.

About watcher, we truly dont know, the only involvement the main devs had was the return of Alegra del'northern being the cutscene artist after like 5 years missing, and james leading the creative decissions, for all im aware joar is not participating since he has moved on from rain world and is working in Airframe Ultra, but maybe gives some advice idk, very few of the downpour devs remain for watcher, only andrew and cappin im aware of, the rest are completely new modders who seem to be more on the "reserved" side, along the remaining MSC members being aware of their past mistakes so i doubt the story is gonna be as fanfic as downpour at least, but unsure if will properly follow up vanilla motifs.

The issue is that the main devs dont even remember their own story well, joar multiple times forgets stuff he himself made, like moon ever wearing a orange cloak, and james is completely unpredictable, he can make the coolest and deepest concepts but also randomly one of his few additions to downpour was deciding "ruffles" was somehow fitting or something, so i dont even know what james will do after these 5 years.

My main concern is the implementation of modded regions, idk how much magic you can do to blend them well together, stitches can only do so much, and environmental storytelling is a big part of rain world for them to have like near a thousand screens of already made modded content which never related to each other much, so we would have to see.

Watched is setting off a better start than downpour ever had but still unknown if they will be confident enough to make it the continuation to the RW story we truly needed to have

it is sad. What do you think about The Watcher, will it be associated with downpour?

unsure, my biggest gess is that it will not support, nor contradict, downpour.
Not talking about stuff that directly contradicts downpour but also acting as if downpour doesnt exist. Tho there are some incompatible vanilla/downpour concepts which may need to be adressed in favor of one of the two canons since there is a bunch of incompatible stuff

[Fac1l1ty]

Originally posted by Jevmen:

Originally posted by LookToTheMoon:

it is sad. What do you think about The Watcher, will it be associated with downpour?

unsure, my biggest gess is that it will not support, nor contradict, downpour.
Not talking about stuff that directly contradicts downpour but also acting as if downpour doesnt exist. Tho there are some incompatible vanilla/downpour concepts which may need to be adressed in favor of one of the two canons since there is a bunch of incompatible stuff

I hope so

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what's up if it's canon, what if it's not? the whole lore of dark souls, for example, might be nothing, but fever dream of a butterfly. would you still care about it being canon? I accept, that all developer approved modifications are canon.

[Marmarmar34]

The only cannon I care about is the one pointed at that butthole Pebbles

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Originally posted by Marmarmar34:

The only cannon I care about is the one pointed at that butthole Pebbles

fire in the hole