5 hours of RNG BS...

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This game is so trash sometimes. I literally can't progress because the game keeps sandwiching me in between enemies. Does anyone else have moments that are just consistently and ridiculously unfair? I'm talking about stuff like Daddy Long Legs completely surrounding an exit at a save point and not moving at all.

Go through an exit and immedietley tongued by a lizard and can't escape. Flying things coming in when I have no room for escape and no direction to go in.

Then I might get past the one room only for it to happen again and there is no way to get out of the situations. It's honestly really pissing me off and it serves no purpose. I get it happening once in a while but I've literally spent 80% of my time this run only dying to complete BS I can't do anything about.

How regularly does your game put you in these situations? I completed the game fine my first time but second game has been crazy amount of BS and I might just uninstall because I don't have the time to just die over and over again to no fault of my own.

[wfloatingw]

despite me having over 1 thousand hours in this game, i still constantly have this problem too. Its part of the game which i love and hate at the same time, however the more you play (even after finishing all the campaigns) the more you get used to the creature ai and know how to evade and counter them. of course youll still encounter bs situations but it will happen less.

its completely fine if you want to take a break or stop playing, rw is not for everyone with its tight learning curve and unique style

[XD001]

There are tells and strategies to handle each of these. Ask us or learn them for yourself.

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Originally posted by XD001:

There are tells and strategies to handle each of these. Ask us or learn them for yourself.

No... Theres not. I understand on any game that gets this kind of cult following you will always have some people who project and defend anything but literally there are so many times in this game I die and there is nothing you can do.

Originally posted by wfloatingw:

despite me having over 1 thousand hours in this game, i still constantly have this problem too. Its part of the game which i love and hate at the same time, however the more you play (even after finishing all the campaigns) the more you get used to the creature ai and know how to evade and counter them. of course youll still encounter bs situations but it will happen less.

its completely fine if you want to take a break or stop playing, rw is not for everyone with its tight learning curve and unique style:rwslugcat:

Ah I see, well I guess I will complete this run and then uninstall because like I said I honestly don't have the time to sit and die to no fault of my own. It's a cool game, and I enjoyed it a lot, but there comes a point for me where I have to think I have so many other things I could be doing than in a constant death loop which ends up being a meaningless waste of time.

Consequently as well there are times the RNG goes the complete opposite direction and levels that should be engaging and fun you literally just walk to the other end with no enemies or problems what so ever. Not frustrating just boring when that happens. I feel this run has been RNG to the extremes. I definitely think the way the game is coded is too far and there needs to be some middle ground in consistency.

I don't mind learning curves or difficulty spikes, I've already completed the game, it's just over time when you get in a situation you've been cuckolded for hours straight its like wtf is the point in this

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Like now I'm at Farm Arrays dealing with RNG bs on the Rain Deer, twice I've jumped on one, then the rain comes very early and I die because I don't have enough time to find a check point. Now I've thrown spores on the ground, hear the shriek, but no deer comes, multiple times in a row. So I just sit here rolling dice until something good happens. It's pretty broken and don't see the point in it at all.

[Flyin' High]

There's strategies and tactics you can employ to reduce the BS, or learn how to survive in certain unfair situations, like how to escape a tongue, or how to use advanced movement tech to outrun things you normally wouldn't be able to.

But in the end it does largely come down to luck, no matter how good you are, if you have rotten luck you just can't do a whole lot about it.
Rainworld is about facing adversity and a big part of that adversity comes in the way of luck, ultimately you just need to accept that the game is going to abuse you with unbeatable situations and you'll just need to get lucky to get by sometimes.

By the way, rain deer are the worst and are definitely a low-point in the game imo, they are complete nonsense and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it.
They might just be stuck somewhere outside of the view of the camera, or maybe they're under the map or something, even if you did manage to grab onto one there's like a 70% chance it would just do nothing once you got on it, and you'd just be waiting the whole cycle for it to move.

[Aguasentry]

Bait the predators. Be sneaky and make little sound by crouching, and throw rocks to scare or attract enemies away from you.

[mothmayo]

I dunno man, you learn how to handle the RNG with time I guess, and even then the game isn't for everyone. You might learn to be able to cope with the difficulty (and it is Difficult) over time, as even after I beat the game I got Downpour, immediately played Artificer, and got my ass whooped (still haunted by Shaded Citadel). If you ever want to, you should take breaks, 10/10 would recommend, and by the way every single player I've seen so far hates the Rain Deer gameplay wise. Love them in concept, hated them so much I try to avoid Farm Arrays. Rain World is really weird/pos, and some enemies can't be avoided. It's meant to be kind of like real ecosystems, and unfair things happen all the time. It even happens to people in real life where they just mind their business and bad stuff happens anyways. Also, on the note of breaks and quitting, you honestly sound pretty irritated or defeated. Rain World is one of those games where you gotta know when to quit, and I know from slamming my fist down on the desk MANY times in (oh god) Underhang. Wish you the best dude, hope things get better for you whether you quit or keep going. Do what makes you happy, there's no point in just suffering.

[VimVim]

happens all the time. often your best bet is to find a path around. for example in farm arrays, there's a route that mostly doesn't require using the deers, I believe. otherwise being patient is super important. whenever a creature is blocking a pipe or similar, I just wait and eventually it probably moves. studying the behaviour of problematic creatures on the wiki is very helpful too. all that being said, mothmay is right. Dying a lot and getting stuck is inevitable.

[Syzygy]

Well, there's always a strong element of chaos, it's what makes the world alive. You can absolutely "git gud" enough to die a lot less and deal with a lot of these situations, the fact that every cycle can be so different makes the learning curve even steeper however. It's a non trivial investment to get there that can be frustrating. Being stuck for 5 hours is draining, I'd take a break try to refresh your perspective. I played this game blind my first time through and only stuck with it for all 70 hours of suffering until I got to the ending because I was playing it for an audience. I honestly thought I would never play it again,and here I am many years and hundreds of hours later and I find it be one of the most goated games ever. In other words, I empathize with your frustration, but try and take a step back before you think you got it so figured out.

[Five]

Originally posted by /^^\461| 834|_|_:

This game is so trash sometimes. I literally can't progress because the game keeps sandwiching me in between enemies. Does anyone else have moments that are just consistently and ridiculously unfair? I'm talking about stuff like Daddy Long Legs completely surrounding an exit at a save point and not moving at all.

Go through an exit and immedietley tongued by a lizard and can't escape. Flying things coming in when I have no room for escape and no direction to go in.

Then I might get past the one room only for it to happen again and there is no way to get out of the situations. It's honestly really pissing me off and it serves no purpose. I get it happening once in a while but I've literally spent 80% of my time this run only dying to complete BS I can't do anything about.

How regularly does your game put you in these situations? I completed the game fine my first time but second game has been crazy amount of BS and I might just uninstall because I don't have the time to just die over and over again to no fault of my own.

that happend rarely, try delete all mods in the files.

[Aguasentry]

BY THE WAY lizards and a few creatures have their own indenpendent reputation systems. Lizards will go through more hassle / choose to eat you over other creatures if you are agressive towards then, and vice versa if you are friendly to them, like giving food and not killing them. the only other way to fix this is playing monk.

[RancidRevenant]

Got sandwiched between 2 red lizards one time and they fought to the death over my corpse.

Got stuck by a Camo lizard's Tongue then a Cyan rocket lizard jumped over and instant killed bit me while i was trying to pull away.

Then i got Harpooned by a king vulture before another red lizard snatched me out of the harpoon.

Sometimes in rainworld you'll just get put into no win Scenarios or Sudden moments where death occurs, But amusingly enough i think thats just part of its rough charm it has. You can get better at the game generally but you'll still encounter those no win scenarios.
But each animal has its own hearing/sight or Some sort of quirk you can work around with once you figure them out. which will make the game Slightly easier to deal with.

[entrthewds]

I would argue with your use of the term "RNG."

A common misconception among newer players is that creature spawns in Rainworld are randomized, with lizards just popping into a random room when they spawn. This isn't the case at all; in Rainworld, every creature has a set spawn point every cycle where it will appear from. Once you learn this, you can start to plan out routes through rainworld, avoiding the harder enemy's territory, and progressing with ease.

That said, you aren't really wrong though. Creature ai is heavily RNG based, so sometimes that pink lizard will decide to plant itself in your way for absolutely no reason on cycle, and then the next, it's fighting scavs or something.

TL/DR: Creature spawns aren't randomized!

[zero hope >:(]

Coding Rain World in the way so these situation won't happen and you always have a secure opportunity would be too much effort to expect

[ademoo]

this bait is probably the first believeable one, good job chief.