I love exploration, steep learning curves, but that didn't catch me for one simple reason

[Pontus]

I absolutely love metroidvania games. But I hate backtracking when it comes to dying. I hate running back to the place where I have died to just simply continue. And as I've heard there is also a dying penalty.

Extremely dissapointed on this behalf.

[guyaoun]

The "penalty" is the symbols you see on hibernation and death. It's called karma, and a minimum is needed for entering most new regions. Dying makes you loose one karma level, surviving lets you gain one. You can disable the karma requirements in the remix settings though, if you don't want it.
Btw, the term metroidvania isn't really accurate here. You won't get more powerful throughout the games from a purely gameplay standpoint. You will get more powerful through learning how the game works. The skill ceiling is high.

[Jevmen]

this isnt a metroidbania tho, there are no upgrades, its a knowledge based game

[Pontus]

Originally posted by Jevmen:

this isnt a metroidbania tho, there are no upgrades, its a knowledge based game

brainvania, whatever you call it. I love Braid, Outer Wilds, Fez, Monster's Expedition, if we're talking about this genre.

The point is, in Rain World I hate going back across all the map to the place where I've died. My brain just straight up tells me "you are wasting your time on doing the same thing over and over again where the game could at least respect your time in it". And while it is could be fun for 5 times, I already see myself dying 100+ times and running 100+ times across the map all over again. Yes, you could be careful, but considering how cryptic at times the game could be and how unpredictable, it is not really the case.

[Sigh-Fi]

chances are....... if you're consistently dying in the same area/in attempting to reach a certain place, you should probably take that as a cue that you may not be ready for that area/what lays beyond just yet. and that's totally okay!! the game world is vast and there's no one correct way to get to where you're meant to be, and some places are generally tougher than others.

if you're really lost, try to keep an eye out for your friendly little guide - that yellow holographic creature will generally try to help point you in the "recommended" direction, especially if you're struggling.

[Justice]

Game won't give you free pass just because you personally can't beat level to get pass by. It's true as previous mention that some areas not supposed be visited that early like Drainage system unless you know where you going

but if it's your general issue to entire game, then you playing the wrong game. Let me even surprise you : in a lot, if not most of games out there require you to run back if you fail at level or boss.

[Pontus]

Originally posted by Justice:

Game won't give you free pass just because you personally can't beat level to get pass by. It's true as previous mention that some areas not supposed be visited that early like Drainage system unless you know where you going

but if it's your general issue to entire game, then you playing the wrong game. Let me even surprise you : in a lot, if not most of games out there require you to run back if you fail at level or boss.

This is simply incorrect.

[Lordly Cinder]

I actually ended up stopping and starting again over time and switched to a controller. It wasnt until I had switched and taken a break that it started to click and that was a long time ago. Its amazing how far I've come since then and once you get past the first hurdle it will really open up for you.

The game is very special but you have to last long enough to begin to get that and understand it. Just live in the world a bit and role play. Its easy to get frustrated early on. Watching youtube vids about how to move ect without spoilers would be very helpful too. Also I used the maps on the wiki because without it as a new player its just so easy to get lost even with the golden helper. I prolly would not have made it this far without maps early on, so I totally get how you feel.

However some of the coolest things about this game would have been far more amazing if I had never spoilered it beforehand. If I had organically found evertything through just exploring how cool that would have been.

[Lexi Lunarpaw]

Originally posted by Pontus:

brainvania, whatever you call it..

I'm calling Rain World a Brainvania from now on