Artificer Max Karma

[Sewage Water]

So from my understanding in order to get max karma as the artificer, you must go and find all of the echos . i was able to find most of them but i am stuck on level 9
i'll list the ones that i have found

Nineteen Spades, Endless Reflections. Chimney Canopy.
Six Grains of Gravel, Mountains Abound. The Wall.
Four Needles under Plentiful Leaves. Shaded Citadel.
A Bell, Eighteen Amber Beads. Farm Arrays.
Two Sprouts, Twelve Brackets. Subterranean.
Droplets upon Five Large Droplets. Sky Islands
Unnamed Echo. Atop the Tallest Tower (metropolis)

Presumable there is a way to get the last level but i don't know how.

[|Revenge|]

Grab a map and see If you're missing one. If not, go to any New area besides the metropolis.

[Nen☆niN]

I really want this to work... Have you been to Moon as Artificer? I don't know if it's possible, the usual way is blocked by rubble and Artificer can't really swim far underwater (maybe with bubbleweed?), but above Moon's puppet there's a hidden access shaft that leads to a small area with a karma gate that has the same lock that's on the gate to Metropolis. Maybe there's an echo there somewhere?

Also, please do tell if you even get to moon as Artificer and if you manage to find an Echo there, I really want to know myself. All this is just conjecture, but I am curious about the truth.

[C1ipper]

Building off of what Nen☆niS said, I've heard rumors about the new portion of Five Pebbles potentially having some connection to Looks to the Moon, but I never tried to verify it because I ended up seeing Five Pebble's dialogue about going to the Metropolis and clearing out the scavengers there. Additionally, I somewhat doubt that getting to LTTM through the underwater sections is possible, from my testing, Artificer doesn't drown fast, they just have a timer on how long they can stay underwater before fatally exploding, so I don't think bubbleweed would work.
I have also heard from some people on the official Discord server that Looks to the Moon might just not be available at all during Artificer's campaign.

[Nen☆niN]

Originally posted by C1ipper:

Building off of what Nen☆niS said, I've heard rumors about the new portion of Five Pebbles potentially having some connection to Looks to the Moon, but I never tried to verify it because I ended up seeing Five Pebble's dialogue about going to the Metropolis and clearing out the scavengers there.
I have also heard from some people on the official Discord server that Looks to the Moon might just not be available at all during Artificer's campaign.

New portion of 5P? Are you referring to Metropolis (huge area, never explored it all)? Or maybe the Precipice (which connects The Leg and Shoreline)? Or is there a new portion in the interior of 5P?

I'm also not sure if Moon is even accessible, but it seems like the thing people would jump to a hasty conclusion on. I'll concede that maybe I'm huffing too much copium here though. But one thing is for sure: there has to be another Echo somewhere, or another way to raise max karma because Artificer has a unique ascension cutscene

[C1ipper]

Originally posted by Nen☆niS:

Originally posted by C1ipper:

Building off of what Nen☆niS said, I've heard rumors about the new portion of Five Pebbles potentially having some connection to Looks to the Moon, but I never tried to verify it because I ended up seeing Five Pebble's dialogue about going to the Metropolis and clearing out the scavengers there.
I have also heard from some people on the official Discord server that Looks to the Moon might just not be available at all during Artificer's campaign.

New portion of 5P? Are you referring to Metropolis (huge area, never explored it all)? Or maybe the Precipice (which connects The Leg and Shoreline)? Or is there a new portion in the interior of 5P?

I'm also not sure if Moon is even accessible, but it seems like the thing people would jump to a hasty conclusion on. I'll concede that maybe I'm huffing too much copium here though. But one thing is for sure: there has to be another Echo somewhere, or another way to raise max karma because Artificer has a unique ascension cutscene

Yeah, I meant the Precipice, forgot the name of it.
It does seem suspicious how it connects to Shoreline though now that I think about it... that's probably where the rumors came from then.

[Tat011]

Originally posted by C1ipper:

I have also heard from some people on the official Discord server that Looks to the Moon might just not be available at all during Artificer's campaign.

That'd be very dissapointing

[Belt fed chainsmoker]

Spearmaster spoilers, but maybe relevant? There is gate near LTTM, that has citizen pass symbol. Not sure if it's there on artificer, as I haven't got there, but maybe it is worth to check. It could also be a waste of time though, as some say moon isn't even there on artificer campaign.

[accumulation]

-Spoilers but I can't get steam to work-

A bit late but have you tried going back to five pebbles with max karma? Otherwise, If the lore reason of why Artificer is one below max is because of her violent tendencies toward scavs then maybe trying to befriend them may work? I doubt you can change reputation with them at all since the outlaw isn't given which implies that reputation is simply ignored for her campaign. But who knows, maybe karma 9 changes that? Otherwise I am fully out of ideas and am sad that literally all but Artificer get a good ending in some way.

[Tat011]

Originally posted by 157(591x − 713) + 567:

A bit late but have you tried going back to five pebbles with max karma?

Yes, nothing happens (because reasons)

Originally posted by 157(591x − 713) + 567:

Otherwise, If the lore reason of why Artificer is one below max is because of her violent tendencies toward scavs then maybe trying to befriend them may work?

Scav reputation is fixed in that campaign, it can't be changed

Originally posted by 157(591x − 713) + 567:

I doubt you can change reputation with them at all since the outlaw isn't given which implies that reputation is simply ignored for her campaign.

You're confusing outlaw with chieftain

Originally posted by 157(591x − 713) + 567:

But who knows, maybe karma 9 changes that? Otherwise I am fully out of ideas and am sad that literally all but Artificer get a good ending in some way.

There is an alternate ending for Arti, it's not happy tho (also saint doesn't get a happy ending either)

[Teal V2]

Excuse me, but as far as I know she never can have max karma and to enter the void sea as her, you actually need to drag a scavenger corpse with you.

[Kligan]

Originally posted by Teal V2:

Excuse me, but as far as I know she never can have max karma and to enter the void sea as her, you actually need to drag a scavenger corpse with you.

Is there a scavenger with 10 karama? I never seen one.

I've read on the internet that going down the void with low karma dissolves the artificer and she gets a "bad ending". Is this still the case with 9 karma? Since it's the maximum she can get, apparently.

[Tat011]

Originally posted by Kligan:

Is there a scavenger with 10 karama? I never seen one.

Their karma stacks with yours, scav karma doesn't naturally go above 5 so if you see one with higher karma it's cuz you have more than karma 1

[Cits]

I very much doubt she can get max karma, but if you could I'd assume it would be done by giving the scav king the pearl stolen by your dead pup once you were already at 9 karma or something. Obviously you'd have to find it, but i doubt its a thing.

[RCMidas]

Not a thing either.

[Teal V2]

You supposed to just drag a scavenger corpse with you, cuz its karma adds to your own.
That is how you pass the guardian.